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I feel like it would be hard to throw a Big Mac with such small hands. It would just come apart.
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Accubitus posted:I'm not sure I would attribute any outcome of 2020, regardless of framing, to Mueller's investigation. It seems like COVID, for example, was probably a much bigger motivator of outcome. I don't remember any discussion about Mueller at all during 2020; I don't think it was very front-of-mind for people heading into the voting booth. I agree, once Mueller gave his final word on things everyone was either "yup, Trump exonerated" or hit the final realization that the president is above the law because of his various scumbag friends in high places, there wasn't much to discuss after that and I didn't really see anything about his investigation at all. Honestly outside of the internet I haven't encountered anyone talking about these current proceedings at all which is bonkers to me, though I'm hoping at least Trump physically assaulting and trying to commandeer the car to go lead the knowingly armed insurgency on the Capitol gets people's attention (even if like people posted earlier that if anything here might Actually Matter it will probably be the witness tampering). But on the other hand I think even this, people are already either foregone that it won't result in any actual consequences for Trump or they're still sad the coup didn't succeed.
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Jun 28, 2022 21:49
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Tiny Timbs posted:I feel like it would be hard to throw a Big Mac with such small hands. It would just come apart. They're not as big as they look in the ads
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Jun 28, 2022 21:49
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Everyone involved in January 6th is getting a pardon come January, 2025, so I'm not inclined to think any of this is meaningful anyways. Edit: improper use of word, thanks for the catch. MooselanderII fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jun 28, 2022 |
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Jun 28, 2022 21:50
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MooselanderII posted:Everyone involved in January 6th is getting a pardon come January, 2025, so I'm non plussed at any of this being meaningful anyways. Not to be too prescriptivist, but nonplussed means perplexed/bamboozled
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Jun 28, 2022 21:59
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Tiny Timbs posted:I feel like it would be hard to throw a Big Mac with such small hands. It would just come apart. *Struggling to maintain my composure.* ... indeed.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:04
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MooselanderII posted:Everyone involved in January 6th is getting a pardon come January, 2025, so I'm non plussed at any of this being meaningful anyways. It would be delicious, in the sort of way that one imagines brimstone is delicious, if what we got from all of this were actual legitimate charges against a former president only for Joe "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden to pardon him a la Ford to Nixon. I think that would have to be the outcome of a true "the former president did actual verifiable crimes" result, since without the senate to hold the justice system back by impossible-to-reach impeachment standards, it's the only way to keep up the pretenses that our justice system can function in any sort of egalitarian way. The system can say "this was a bad thing, and the former president was bad to do it," but the president can't be allowed to go to prison or the truly powerful would feel at risk; either the committee must absolve him, or the current president (or I guess the next one, if it takes long enough to get there) will have to pardon him. I would love to be wrong about this, but the very idea that this country could ever put a former president, even a loathsome wretch like this one, in prison is just ... beyond my imagination.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:05
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Ershalim posted:It would be delicious, in the sort of way that one imagines brimstone is delicious, if what we got from all of this were actual legitimate charges against a former president only for Joe "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden to pardon him a la Ford to Nixon. I mean even aside from indicting a former president being unimaginable for all of those reasons, the "biggest investigation in DOJ history" will literally mean nothing other than time served when trump inevitably returns to office.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:08
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I'm pretty certain that the combination of tiny hands and the extra frictional co-efficient of a sesame seed bun compared to a regular one means that there's a very high chance that a perfect spiral was achieved, and the big mac in question hit the wall like it lobbed by a 5 star QB recruit. The plate was obviously thrown immediate after, as a statement against the wasted nature of such a beautiful sight
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Jun 28, 2022 22:11
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Seems that the 6-3 High Ruling Council will not make it easy for people to vote in any challenges to their runaway power. https://twitter.com/GregStohr/status/1541868603917697024
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Jun 28, 2022 22:13
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It’s an extremely loose burger though
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Jun 28, 2022 22:21
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Epic High Five posted:I'm pretty certain that the combination of tiny hands and the extra frictional co-efficient of a sesame seed bun compared to a regular one means that there's a very high chance that a perfect spiral was achieved, and the big mac in question hit the wall like it lobbed by a 5 star QB recruit. The plate was obviously thrown immediate after, as a statement against the wasted nature of such a beautiful sight 
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Jun 28, 2022 22:23
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I genuinely don't understand how someone could live through the Mueller Report, the impeachment, and the second impeachment, and think that fourth time's the charm.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:28
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Gripweed posted:I genuinely don't understand how someone could live through the Mueller Report, the impeachment, and the second impeachment, and think that fourth time's the charm. Desperate hope fighting against despair, I'd imagine.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:29
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Blind Pineapple posted:"1950s" only gets thrown around by republicans because that's when most of them were kids or in their early 20s and can look back with rose-tinted glasses. and ironically enough, the 1950s were great because of Democratic policies during the 30s and 40s.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:37
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If the person responsible for feeding Trump didn't have a backup burger at the ready, then they aren't very good at their job.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:40
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Cimber posted:and ironically enough, the 1950s were great for straight cis white men because of Democratic policies during the 30s and 40s. Just want to clarify
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Jun 28, 2022 22:40
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Dubar posted:If the person responsible for feeding Trump didn't have a backup burger at the ready, then they aren't very good at their job.  A SECOND BURGER HAS HIT THE WALL Watch trump start a loving coup
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Jun 28, 2022 22:52
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haveblue posted:I remember pre-2016 discussions along the lines of "what would the secret service do if one candidate physically attacked another?" and I guess it's comforting to know the SS has no problem corralling or restraining a president for their own good Oh if you read Cheney's accounts of 9/11 he'll mention that when the Secret Service told him it was time evacuate the White House, his feet didn't touch the floor much, they literally carried his fat old rear end to the bunker toot sweet and were not brooking opposition.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:54
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Gripweed posted:I genuinely don't understand how someone could live through the Mueller Report, the impeachment, and the second impeachment, and think that fourth time's the charm. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
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Jun 28, 2022 22:56
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Jaxyon posted:Just want to clarify Well, that was assumed.
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Gripweed posted:I genuinely don't understand how someone could live through the Mueller Report, the impeachment, and the second impeachment, and think that fourth time's the charm. I prefer https://old.reddit.com/r/miamidolphins/
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Jun 28, 2022 22:59
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That would be the opposite of learned helplessness.
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Jun 28, 2022 22:59
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Learned helplessness would be constantly asserting that there's nothing we can do and we've already lost permanently and forever. Good thing nothing like that ever gets posted in here
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Jun 28, 2022 23:04
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Herstory Begins Now posted:And how did trump do in 2020? Trump losing the presidency is not a punishment. He gets to go back to wielding power in the party and still living the rich fucko life and being a giant piece of poo poo. What are the actual stakes of this with regards to Donald Trump going to jail? I am under the impression that this committee poo poo is basically meaningless grandstanding because that's what it always is these days. Can the DOJ actually do something to Donald Trump over this poo poo? Are the current appointees likely to try? If they do try, what are the odds the case doesn't make it to the supreme court where he gets exonerated on a court that he installed 3 people to?
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Ershalim posted:It would be delicious, in the sort of way that one imagines brimstone is delicious, if what we got from all of this were actual legitimate charges against a former president only for Joe "nothing will fundamentally change" Biden to pardon him a la Ford to Nixon. This is pants on head stupid. Biden has already taken the unprecedented step of stating that executive privilege doesn't extend to previous holders of the office and had it upheld by the Supreme Court. That was also unheard of before Trump. The man excels at pissing off the establishment to the point of actually doing the right thing just to nail his horrible rear end to the wall. He is single-handedly doing more to trash the idea of decorum and tradition than every wanna-be revolutionary in America could ever dream of, because he is just that bad. Also Ford was a fellow Republican and was expressly appointed to the office to pardon Nixon. Biden... not so much.
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Oracle posted:
I wonder how long President DeSantos would take before pardoning Trump?
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Cimber posted:I wonder how long President DeSantos would take before pardoning Trump? 1. its DeSantis and 2. Depends on how badly Trump rips him a new one in the preceding months.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:23
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Oracle posted:1. its DeSantis and 2. Depends on how badly Trump rips him a new one in the preceding months. Yeah, a President DeSantis would be unbearably torn between wanting to secure his own power by removing Trump as a rival, and wanting to save Trump from all consequences out of overriding loyalty to Daddy. I think he’d let Trump rot in jail because unlike Trump he’s a smart monster, but I can’t say it with anything less than 50.5% certainty.
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Cimber posted:I wonder how long President DeSantos would take before pardoning Trump? To him, Trump is a rival, not an ally. He'd gladly throw Trump under the bus, I think. While there's a fair few genuine Trump loyalists out there, there's also a lot of GOP figures who hitched their wagons to him because they thought they could ride his wave to the top. They didn't dare to betray him as long as he was powerful and influential with the voters, but if he's sent to prison despite that, I doubt they'll do much for him: they'll all be too busy fighting to claim his legacy for themselves.
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Taiko posted:The saddest part is that it was probably a really nice burger that someone who works in the White House Mess had done a really good job of cooking. "Well I know he likes it well done, but that doesn't mean there can't be flavor," the person said as they made the patty, seasoned it, and cooked it with care. Then it was carried upstairs and what happened happened. I didn't know you could make me feel sad over Trump pitching a hissy fit and launching a burg into the wall to leave a slapstick trail of ketchup down the wall, but drat it, you did it.
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HonorableTB posted:I didn't know you could make me feel sad over Trump pitching a hissy fit and launching a burg into the wall to leave a slapstick trail of ketchup down the wall, but drat it, you did it. It is pretty intense just how much Fox has committed to burying this whole hearing. They've downplayed things before compared to CNN/MSNBC/NPR, but this is the first time something this notable is just completely absent in their coverage. edit: well I take that back, I guess the crew that runs the website is under a different playbook than the talking heads https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1541899130813005833?s=20&t=Y8_eZLuRzunPov2lKsfn0g Have Some Flowers! fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jun 29, 2022 |
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Jun 29, 2022 00:23
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Have Some Flowers! posted:The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the condiments of tomatoes and sugar. Well, lets see what Fox is saying.... ....nothing much. 
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Oracle posted:1. its DeSantis and 2. Depends on how badly Trump rips him a new one in the preceding months. If DeSantis is smart, he'll get Trump to drop/ stay out of the race by promising him a pardon, then make every moderate dem in America worship him by going back on the promise. He'd have a 70% approval rating if he backstabbed Trump but implemented a fascist agenda while doing it.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:If DeSantis is smart, he'll get Trump to drop/ stay out of the race by promising him a pardon, then make every moderate dem in America worship him by going back on the promise. He'd have a 70% approval rating if he backstabbed Trump but implemented a fascist agenda while doing it. If Trump isn't in jail by then, he'll rightfully think he's completely immune from prosecution (other than MAYBE as a result some kind internal republican power play thing after they control the entire federal government).
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One of the benefits of assuming the Jan 6 hearing will amount to nothing is that you can instead use that energy to dread the upcoming Supreme Court EPA decision. Before I was just thinking it would just say that the government basically can't do anything to stop global warming. But after the Dobbs decision it's clear they're going for broke, they might gut the whole idea of regulatory agencies.
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Gripweed posted:I genuinely don't understand how someone could live through the Mueller Report, the impeachment, and the second impeachment, and think that fourth time's the charm. I'm not optimistic here, because, you know, no one ever went broke betting that the rich and powerful in America would get away with crimes, but there is a pretty big difference here. In the three cases you mentioned, Republicans were needed to do anything. For the Mueller report, Mueller himself was a Republican, as was the head of the DoJ (lBill Barr), and for the two impeachments, 19(-ish) Republican senators were needed for removal from office. With the 1-6 commission, the DoJ could prosecute the case, and no Republicans are needed for that prosecution, aside from maybe those who have already testified against Trump. We'll see if they actually do bring the case, but they could. Of course, when it becomes time to have the jury vote, I am not hopeful that a Republican jurist won't just blow up the conviction out of party loyalty. So it's probably all a moot point.
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VikingofRock posted:I'm not optimistic here, because, you know, no one ever went broke betting that the rich and powerful in America would get away with crimes, but there is a pretty big difference here. In the three cases you mentioned, Republicans were needed to do anything. For the Mueller report, Mueller himself was a Republican, as was the head of the DoJ (lBill Barr), and for the two impeachments, 19(-ish) Republican senators were needed for removal from office. With the 1-6 commission, the DoJ could prosecute the case, and no Republicans are needed for that prosecution, aside from maybe those who have already testified against Trump. We'll see if they actually do bring the case, but they could. RICO laws mean you can charge the entire organization, don't they? Charge every Republican, imho.
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Cimber posted:Well, lets see what Fox is saying.... They are really connected to the pulse of America on FoxNews.com. The gas price tracker thing also feels like a parody.
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Mendrian posted:Republicans want to bring American back to a 1950 that never actually existed, I think honestly they want to visit an alternate timeline where Civil Rights never happened. A term for this Revolutionary Romanticism, fascism is also a Revolutionary Romanticism.
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