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Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
My biology teacher insisted that memorizing a hundred insects and their phylogeny would somehow be useful. I took that “F” with pride.

For lots of stuff that I don’t use from school, I can at least see a tortured path to it being vaguely useful. Decades later, nope - still wholly useless.

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The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Don't you throw a Chloe at me.

If I can make the world more mystical and mysterious for kids I will. Your imagination wears off after awhile. Let them enjoy it while it lasts.

Not like I'm gonna teach them how to make chlorine gas or whatever.

The science, or math teachers should not lie though. Uh, probably not the history or shop class ones either.

PE is fine. We play Calvinball today.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Moai Ou posted:

The middle of my senior year of HS, our AP chemistry teacher got moved to a different class to cover a different teacher's leaving. Her replacement was fresh out of college and was not qualified to teach chemistry AT ALL.

Among his numerous misunderstandings, he insisted that magnesium and manganese were two names for the same thing. When a student showed him proof to the contrary, he dismissed it and said, "Excuse me, I'm the one with a teaching degree! Go back to your seat and shut up!"

Dumber still, he said that milligrams and grams were exactly the same. As in 1 mg = 1g. Meters and liters worked the same as the rest of the world understands it; only mass followed his belief. If you used mg the correct way, it would be marked wrong. You had to use .1 centigram or .001 gram if you wanted it to count.

This man was a chemistry teacher! Because of him, literally nobody in his classes for those two semesters got above a D.

This seems like one of those times where parents should have descended on the school office and demanded to know why this moron is teaching the class.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe

Buttchocks posted:

I forget the name/author of the poem, but it was about some kids who are forced to drink lemonade and then piss into cans of paint, then their parents stir up the piss-paint and paint their house with it. Totally normal school literature. You will be absolutely not shocked at all to learn that this teacher also turned out to have hosed some of his students.

Was there piss involved with the students? Cause that poem sounds like some fetish poo poo

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

The Butcher posted:

Don't you throw a Chloe at me.

If I can make the world more mystical and mysterious for kids I will. Your imagination wears off after awhile. Let them enjoy it while it lasts.

Not like I'm gonna teach them how to make chlorine gas or whatever.

The science, or math teachers should not lie though. Uh, probably not the history or shop class ones either.

PE is fine. We play Calvinball today.

Well, when you put it that way, it sounds a lot better than your original post, which sounded like an rear end in a top hat teacher intentionally playing mind games with kids out of distain for them.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Moai Ou posted:

Among his numerous misunderstandings, he insisted that magnesium and manganese were two names for the same thing. When a student showed him proof to the contrary, he dismissed it and said, "Excuse me, I'm the one with a teaching degree! Go back to your seat and shut up!"

Someone should have told this moron that the teacher that admits their mistakes in front of the class, gains a ton of respect, which gains them a much better classroom environment for teaching.

Hope he never got cert. Because not knowing his poo poo is bad and all, but that kind of reaction is way more troubling on a fundamental level.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
pe teacher told me my cock was average during penis inspection day but ive measured it and its below average

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
I wonder how many "dumb" kids are due to A) lovely teachers/nonsensical curriculum and testing styles B) the kids' own inability to stay focused or find the material more interesting than playing pokemon go in class C) both, and in what proportions

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe

EorayMel posted:

I wonder how many "dumb" kids are due to A) lovely teachers/nonsensical curriculum and testing styles B) the kids' own inability to stay focused or find the material more interesting than playing pokemon go in class C) both, and in what proportions

I honestly think neurodivergency could be a factor as well. I suspect my maternal grandfather had/has ADD or whatever it's called now. (This was mid-century small town Northern England. They weren't testing for poo poo other than sit down and shut the gently caress up.)

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I literally have no attention span anymore. I’ll be watching a 3 minute music video but then I want to check tweets but those are too long so I skim half and look at the pictures and gently caress it if I’m gonna finish this whole granola bar so wrap half of it up for later and put 2 sips of soda back in the fridge. I wanna say hi to people but it’s like “let me cut you off at h because I might be missing out on something” and just do a half nod. Like what the gently caress are movies even? I don’t have time to get drunk, takes too long. I used to be able to watch a whole chicken roast or a sunset at the beach or the coals of a fire all night. What the poo poo happened? Had a 4.2 gpa in high school for a while, settled for a 4.0 to drop a class and gently caress off in study hall. It’s cool tho. :feelsgood:

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
just remembered the time a teacher showed us a 3.5 floppy and made very sure we all understood that this is called a Hard Disk. because it's hard plastic, you see.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Light Gun Man posted:

just remembered the time a teacher showed us a 3.5 floppy and made very sure we all understood that this is called a Hard Disk. because it's hard plastic, you see.

She was right though. Those things are supposed to hold a gigabyte but they couldn’t make them to spec so they had to make this lovely oversized zip disc and it only held 100mb.

Treecko
Apr 23, 2008

The Official Demon Girl
Boss of 2022!
Told me I was special and I'd go far someday.

Jokes on them I went here instead :smuggo:

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

I literally have no attention span anymore. I’ll be watching a 3 minute music video but then I want to check tweets but those are too long so I skim half and look at the pictures and gently caress it if I’m gonna finish this whole granola bar so wrap half of it up for later and put 2 sips of soda back in the fridge. I wanna say hi to people but it’s like “let me cut you off at h because I might be missing out on something” and just do a half nod. Like what the gently caress are movies even? I don’t have time to get drunk, takes too long. I used to be able to watch a whole chicken roast or a sunset at the beach or the coals of a fire all night. What the poo poo happened? Had a 4.2 gpa in high school for a while, settled for a 4.0 to drop a class and gently caress off in study hall. It’s cool tho. :feelsgood:

You’re taking too much adderall.

Or not enough adderall

Mooey Cow
Jan 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Pillbug

The Butcher posted:

"No, we are playing Swedish dodge ball today".

It's called Ghostball and it owns

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

Meme Poker Party posted:

Can't believe no mention of the importance of cursive yet.

The thing about cursive is that for a long time it simply was handwriting. Non-cursive wasn't writing, it was "printing," you were just crudely drawing the letters, akin to cutting out and pasting words from magazines for a ransom note.

Cursive becoming obsolete pretty much goes hand-in-hand with no one ever writing out whole documents by hand anymore, and most of the instances that we still do write by hand are the kinds of things "printing" was already acceptable for anyway (foms, etc.).

Your teachers probably all still were perfectly aware that cursive was archaic and bullshiting about its importance, though!

SidneyIsTheKiller
Jul 16, 2019

I did fall asleep reading a particularly erotic chapter
in my grandmother's journal.

She wrote very detailed descriptions of her experiences...

The Butcher posted:

If I can make the world more mystical and mysterious for kids I will. Your imagination wears off after awhile. Let them enjoy it while it lasts.

Nah, there are way, way too many adults out there for whom the world is mystical and mysterious, I can't say I'm down with this at all.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

I enjoy writing in both cursive and with a fountain pen. It is far more tedious and time consuming, but it's a nice disconnect. Still do the vast majority of my writing on a computer tho.

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo

EorayMel posted:

I wonder how many "dumb" kids are due to A) lovely teachers/nonsensical curriculum and testing styles B) the kids' own inability to stay focused or find the material more interesting than playing pokemon go in class C) both, and in what proportions

I think there are many more factors. Also teachers get paid poo poo, treated like poo poo, and therefore it attracts a low calibre of educators. I mean, don't we have a frikn admin/mod here as a teacher? lmao. Being a teacher would suck.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Lascivious Sloth posted:

I think there are many more factors. Also teachers get paid poo poo, treated like poo poo, and therefore it attracts a low calibre of educators. I mean, don't we have a frikn admin/mod here as a teacher? lmao. Being a teacher would suck.

Varies heavily by location, but in the usual places/suspects... yep!

I'm not gonna point out numbers exactly, but let's just say where I work as a teacher: in 15 years I will be making nearly more than double what someone working in parts of Arkansas will be making after 30 years. My starting salary was their 30 year mark, and I'm more or less just starting out experience wise. A brutal lol.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Moai Ou posted:

The middle of my senior year of HS, our AP chemistry teacher got moved to a different class to cover a different teacher's leaving. Her replacement was fresh out of college and was not qualified to teach chemistry AT ALL.

Lol AP Chemistry? oh no did anyone pass the AP exam? I suspect our AP Psych teacher wasn't qualified in the field as watching "A Beautiful Mind" didn't teach us anything, but the exam was so easy it barely mattered.

Violet_Sky posted:

I honestly think neurodivergency could be a factor as well. I suspect my maternal grandfather had/has ADD or whatever it's called now. (This was mid-century small town Northern England. They weren't testing for poo poo other than sit down and shut the gently caress up.)

I've heard from multiple people that they were miserable in elementary school and being considered for special ed when someone finally asked "hey has anyone has this kid's eyes checked to see if they need glasses?" and the kid was able to thrive.

Grape posted:

Varies heavily by location, but in the usual places/suspects... yep!

I'm not gonna point out numbers exactly, but let's just say where I work as a teacher: in 15 years I will be making nearly more than double what someone working in parts of Arkansas will be making after 30 years. My starting salary was their 30 year mark, and I'm more or less just starting out experience wise. A brutal lol.

Oh for sure, read about the Oklahoma teacher of the year crossing the border into Texas to get a five figure bump. Or if they go west can get an even bigger raise in California.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Grape posted:

Varies heavily by location, but in the usual places/suspects... yep!

I'm not gonna point out numbers exactly, but let's just say where I work as a teacher: in 15 years I will be making nearly more than double what someone working in parts of Arkansas will be making after 30 years. My starting salary was their 30 year mark, and I'm more or less just starting out experience wise. A brutal lol.

people lament about teachers being paid way too much here lol. they get a decently cushy job, awesome pension and a lot of free time in the summer (not "time off", because i know there's still work to do, it's just substantially reduced from what they're doing during the school year), plus a fair salary that climbs into the low hundred thousands when they've got 10+ years in. it's certainly not exorbitant but it's consistently good which is how most public sector jobs are here. people that say they're paid too much are usually private sector wage slaves who vote straight blue and rag on unions

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo

Grape posted:

Varies heavily by location, but in the usual places/suspects... yep!

I'm not gonna point out numbers exactly, but let's just say where I work as a teacher: in 15 years I will be making nearly more than double what someone working in parts of Arkansas will be making after 30 years. My starting salary was their 30 year mark, and I'm more or less just starting out experience wise. A brutal lol.

Is this taking into consideration cost of living in the locations where salary is higher? Sure, you could get a higher salary in California for example, but won't the cost of rent/food etc. outweigh the benefits of the higher salary?

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Lascivious Sloth posted:

Is this taking into consideration cost of living in the locations where salary is higher? Sure, you could get a higher salary in California for example, but won't the cost of rent/food etc. outweigh the benefits of the higher salary?

Not to the extent of that no. Trust me the people I was talking to about the Ark pay scale were from there.

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

Lascivious Sloth posted:

I think there are many more factors. Also teachers get paid poo poo, treated like poo poo, and therefore it attracts a low calibre of educators. I mean, don't we have a frikn admin/mod here as a teacher? lmao. Being a teacher would suck.
My school once employed a guy who had made a fortune in banking, then quit to pursue his dream of becoming a teacher. He lasted eight months.

I love teaching but focus on outreach events, because I can spend some energy and time with kids and not have to do all the soul-crushing work of an actual teaching job.

As for lies, I had a maths substitute teacher who was adamant that pi is equal to 22/7. Then there were the omissions, mostly in history: the US entering WW1 solely because of the Lusitania (sunk in 1915, must have taken a long time for news to reach America), or chronicling the rise of Nazi Germany without once mentioning either the socialist or communist parties.

Also I had a chemistry substitute teacher who was nearly as bad as Moai's. He was adamant that radon gas was not radioactive, as it's a noble gas and therefore non-reactive. He also hosed up basic chemical formulae and lab practices. One joker decided to set potassium on fire in a class, so the idiot teacher decided to throw it in the sink and blast it with tap water. There was a sand bucket right next to the sink.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe

Plucky Brit posted:

As for lies, I had a maths substitute teacher who was adamant that pi is equal to 22/7.

Can someone explain why this is not true please? I'm a History major. :eng99:

jimmy mnemonic
Jan 9, 2007

Fun Shoe
When reading literature it is really important to understand what the characters and events "represent". Bonus points if you can tie them to ideas in sex, death, or politics. If you don't do this you are a superficial reader and are inferior because of it.

FPzero
Oct 20, 2008

Game Over
Return of Mido

Violet_Sky posted:

Can someone explain why this is not true please? I'm a History major. :eng99:

22/7 is just an approximation. It's not accurate enough for true calculations.

Speaking of numbers, I got told negative numbers didn't exist by one of my elementary school teachers. Imagine my surprise a few years later when they suddenly did!

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

that tomorrow is spelled tommorrow

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 20 days!
I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo

Grem posted:

I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

That they have a future and the world won't collapse from global warming

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Grem posted:

I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

that they need to VOTE to make their voices heard!

TCE
Feb 26, 2016
One of the strangest lies I ever got was from a middle school English teacher introducing one of the books we were gonna read that year (a John Wyndham, don't remember which one.) She made sure to tell us how the book was long out of print, and even used copies weren't available in bookstores anymore, and how she had to scour the country for them but it was important because the book was just that good. At lunchtime some friends and I went to the used bookstore across the street and there were like six copies. Why such a meaningless lie? So we'd treat the books carefully? Wh this one specifically, then? They clearly weren't valuable.

Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Grem posted:

I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

I'm hard pressed to think of a doozie of a lie that's also not peak boomerism, like "police are your friends" and "the rich can't escape justice" and "good always wins over evil" and stuff like that.

The other list is poo poo that, in hindsight, might be as blatantly terrible as slang terms for marginalized people of today.

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

Grem posted:

I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

Spiders are insects

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

EorayMel posted:

Spiders are insects

Bats are bugs

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Blue Raider posted:

that tomorrow is spelled tommorrow

EorayMel posted:

Spiders are insects

That reminds me -- I had a teacher who insisted upon spelling "arachnophobia" with an A instead of an O :pseudo:

edit for emote improvement

YeahTubaMike fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jun 29, 2022

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Grem posted:

I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

That stupid krampus movie is real.

Plucky Brit
Nov 7, 2009

Swing low, sweet chariot

Violet_Sky posted:

Can someone explain why this is not true please? I'm a History major. :eng99:
Pi is not equal to 22/7, the fraction is just an approximation for when you don't have a calculator.

Also, pi is an irrational number. The definition of irrational numbers is a number that cannot be expressed as a fraction.

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Buttchocks
Oct 21, 2020

No, I like my hat, thanks.

Grem posted:

I'm a middle school social studies teacher and I will tell my students 1 lie next year. What should it be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-n1vGeVIXo

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