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TescoBag posted:Honestly, thank you for taking the time to educate me. 
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Once again I'd like to ask everyone to pay attention to what Slavvy says, he knows what he's talking about!Slavvy posted:They also want to sell bikes to younger and poorer people and those bikes need to be small and light, Slavvy posted:Horsepower is an abstract number with no meaning outside of racing. Having said that, though, more RPM = better than. I want an engine that sounds like a V10 F1 car. Which is why the proliferation of singles frustrates me today. Big pistons no fun.
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Since we're talking about Harleys i passed somebody on a Pan America today and they didn't wave  Showing air cooled pushrod bike: 
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Dog Case posted:Since we're talking about Harleys i passed somebody on a Pan America today and they didn't wave Greybeard boomer Harley riders are the only ppl who won't wave to me
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I’m a big man I need a big man bike. Jokes aside I really wanted the cb300r but I sat on one at the dealer and it was way too small and squished way down when I sat upon it. Ended up with the worlds last new vfr deluxe instead for $8k. How about that new gold wing. It’s pretty dang nice imo
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It squished way down because you are not a 140lb person (I assume); would need a shock adjust. What was too small about it? Peg to seat distance?
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Not quite sure I agree here though because I've seen no evidence that Harley recognizes that younger customers want lighter bikes. I think the lightest thing they make still is the Street 500 (unless they discontinued the whole Street line?) and that's nearly as heavy as an 883 which is nearly 600lb last I looked. The new, water cooled sportster is listed as 220kg wet. But you're right, which is why there's going to be an Indian built Harley 300 with a v-twin, and below that a range of e-bikes with 1930's styling. I think the old XL will finally shuffle off it's mortal coil in a couple of years and their transition to a triumph style model range will be complete: one platform for old men who demand air cooled tradition and backwards compatibility, the rest totally modern bikes with a Harley badge. The street 500 and 750 were basically learning models to cut their teeth on without a huge amount of investment, they were pretty crap and are long gone. And yes, middleweight singles and i2's are sooo tedious compared to a zippy little four or a banging V.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Having said that, though, more RPM = better than. I want an engine that sounds like a V10 F1 car. Which is why the proliferation of singles frustrates me today. Big pistons no fun. Slavvy posted:And yes, middleweight singles and i2's are sooo tedious compared to a zippy little four or a banging V. Preach. Personally, the most important metric to judge an engine by is musicality. There has to be some tonality to it. And not just as a byproduct of function, but something someone considered in the design and chose to emphasize. My GSX-S doesn't have to sound like it does, but the designers knew it could, so they made it so you could hear the intakes sing (special mention to the engineers at Yoshimura). In bikes built for racing like the flat plane R1 and various Ducati superbikes, sound probably doesn't factor in much other than as a byproduct, but when they stick that engine in a street chassis, then the designers can say "ok, how do we want this bike to sound. How should the sound reflect the character of this bike." Harleys have a really lovely low timpanic (like the drum) rumble with stock pipes. Unfortunately, mouth breathers just put straight pipes on them and then they just sound like the world's loudest rear end clapping fart. If the only thing you're considering an engine for is how it moves the bike forward, you end up with a BMW or maybe some (most) Hondas. People love those bikes, and they're not wrong to, but like, imagine Blade Runner without the Vangelis score. You can have the most brilliant bike, but without the music of the engine, it falls flat. I think some electric bike manufacturers understand this, since they can't sound loud, they have to sound good. I can't wait to see some Siemens engineers go to work on EV drivetrains so they can make some kind of chord progression as they accelerate. Sorry that was some coffee induced stream of consciousness shitposting. Tl;Dr engines gotta sound good.
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Finger Prince posted:I can't wait to see some Siemens engineers go to work on EV drivetrains so they can make some kind of chord progression as they accelerate. Already did it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDkTVFL61g&t=23s Built by Siemens! LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Jun 29, 2022 |
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LimaBiker posted:Already did it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDkTVFL61g&t=23s Yeah, exactly that, but on an electric motorbike.
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Come to SE PA and visit one of our thousands of office parks
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opengl128 posted:Come to SE PA and visit one of our thousands of office parks I really want this pretty xerox machine ngl
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a little late to the Harley engineering chat, but this fortnine video suggests, with some convincing figures, that Harley's insistence on air-cooled pushrod v-twins is indeed less efficient/powerful than the japanese way. Thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooue7i73zo
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You don't buy American for efficiency. You buy it for freedom, aesthetic, and the virtue of never forgetting.
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MSPain posted:a little late to the Harley engineering chat, but this fortnine video suggests, with some convincing figures, that Harley's insistence on air-cooled pushrod v-twins is indeed less efficient/powerful than the japanese way. Thoughts? Did you read literally nothing I said about power and efficiency? Cause that's how it looks and it's very annoying!
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Slavvy posted:Did you read literally nothing I said about power and efficiency? Cause that's how it looks and it's very annoying! Your name is cassandra. Anyway, I was thinking of buying a 401, they look neat/lol harley only makes old inefficient motors due to *heritage*, they should really make some modern ones.
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Slavvy posted:Did you read literally nothing I said about power and efficiency? Cause that's how it looks and it's very annoying! I did read your post, I'm just noting that you are arguing that the shortcomings of long stroke, air-cooled, pushrod engines don't practically matter and the guy in the video is saying the opposite. and he used all sorts of flashy VFX so the ball's in your court 
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Without watching the video (I'd rather stick forks in my eyes): he is falling into the marketing trap of defining a bigger number as better than and then declaring one thing is better because it has a bigger number. How close did I get? Did you read the posts I linked the other guy to? Cause if you find something I didn't cover in there I might actually be compelled to watch it.
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RyanF9 is a dweeb. 
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 700 mile trip up the 101 begins… now !
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Which route? I'd strongly recommend going Hwy 9->35->84->1 from Santa Cruz. 101 is much nicer than 5 leaving LA, but once you get to the Bay Area it turns into a soulless freeway. I'm down to show you around the Santa Cruz Mountains if you want 
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Slavvy posted:Without watching the video (I'd rather stick forks in my eyes): he is falling into the marketing trap of defining a bigger number as better than and then declaring one thing is better because it has a bigger number. Been lurking the past 2 pages this whole time thinking, "Everybody must be talking about what they saw in that F9 video..."
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Toe Rag posted:Which route? I'd strongly recommend going Hwy 9->35->84->1 from Santa Cruz. 101 is much nicer than 5 leaving LA, but once you get to the Bay Area it turns into a soulless freeway. This. 101 doesn't get good again until it merges with 1. In fact, if it's open, I'd take 1 from San Luis Obispo to Monterey Bay. Life is too short to spend time in the Central Valley.
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That sounds awesome but I’m on a time crunch to get back up there, need to slab it. Those roads look awesome though. I’ll post again if I come thru there
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lmao at getting mad at me for not reading your post (which I did) while not watching the video in mine
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Haven't had a chance to get out and ride for a bit. Here's my bike on the mountain in front of a double rainbow and a microburst that I had to ride through down lower on the road. First time riding in a serious rain (for all of 5 minutes) after over a year of riding! I got to test wet tire grip a little, really surprised how much traction these Rosso 3s have on a very wet road.
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MSPain posted:lmao at getting mad at me for not reading your post (which I did) while not watching the video in mine 
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MSPain posted:lmao at getting mad at me for not reading your post (which I did) while not watching the video in mine Cmon man you've had your first bike less than a week
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I hereby drop it because you are right and I never professed to know poo poo about bikes. That response just seemed real rude
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MSPain posted:I hereby drop it because you are right and I never professed to know poo poo about bikes. That response just seemed real rude Toe Rag posted:RyanF9 is a dweeb.
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MSPain posted:I hereby drop it because you are right and I never professed to know poo poo about bikes. That response just seemed real rude He’s.
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I got a new (to me) bike. 2020 Scrambler Icon Dark with 2000km on it. I got them to stick a lower bar on it, I kinda wanted a flatter one but the available Ducati one has a slight rise. Looks way better than the weird stock one anyway. The seat is also non standard, I'll probably switch it for the flat stock one. It goes very nicely, super calm of course compared to the Blade but nice to brrrppppppp around the countryside. I ran out of revs a couple of times overtaking, the amount of thrust at peak is about the same as when my other bike is about to start its steam catapult impression so I need to modify my riding a bit. Fun anyway, I really like it. 
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Gosh Scramblers look so nice 
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knox_harrington posted:I got a new (to me) bike. 2020 Scrambler Icon Dark with 2000km on it. You done good. You ran out of revs overtaking? Surprised to hear that. Downshift and then try?
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?? That doesn't make sense. No I hit the redline, partly it's just a less fast bike, partly because it's a twin instead of a 4 so the exhaust note is an octave lower.
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Also because the redline in 1st on a Fireblade is 160kph so running out of revs is not generally a problem
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knox_harrington posted:I got a new (to me) bike. 2020 Scrambler Icon Dark with 2000km on it. Nice! Russian Bear posted:Gosh Scramblers look so nice They really do.
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knox_harrington posted:?? That doesn't make sense. No I hit the redline, partly it's just a less fast bike, partly because it's a twin instead of a 4 so the exhaust note is an octave lower. Upshift then try? 
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Haha thank you for your help
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knox_harrington posted:I got a new (to me) bike. 2020 Scrambler Icon Dark with 2000km on it. I hate to interrupt an engineering argument to comment on a photo someone posted of their bike in the post photos of your bike thread, but welcome to the Scrambler club. Never, ever leave it off the battery tender.
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