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There's a great onboard video from multiple trophyhaver Peter Hickman from the 2018 Senior TT where he talks through a full lap, I never get tired of watching these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_hxwAanX0 Fifty Three posted:We flew into IOM through Dublin and took a bus from the airport to downtown Douglas, that part was easy. IOM sells bus passes at the airport info desk that are good for 1/3/5 days etc. On race/practice days there are both normal IOM busses for the main cities/towns and special TT busses that will take you anywhere you'd like to go along the track, including most of the campsites I think. IOM's bus website can be confusing because certain race days use specific day of the week schedules, but spend a bit of time studying it and you'll figure it out. Leading up to the TT that site had a special TT section with the modified schedules and info on the special TT busses. The main bus stand in Douglas had volunteers in hi-viz helping people figure out what bus to take, shout out to them they were delightful. We ended up catching a normal bus to Crosby at around 7am and walked from there to The Crosby, an awesome little pub with picnic benches and friendly people and cheap beers all day. Don't tell your friends. Got there at 7:30 and benches were already being taken, the pub wasn't even set to open until 9am. Roads closed at 10am and reopened after the day's racing was over, caught a special TT bus back into town. Road closure times and race schedules varied based on the weather and were posted on the evenings prior on IOMTT's Facebook.
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Toe Rag posted:I personally ride based on what I can see not on what I think may be next. I don't think that's what those guys are doing. Slavvy is right, racing is in large part knowing several turns ahead exactly where and when you need to brake and turn and accelerate. At least, that's how you get the fastest possible lap time. You're not wrong though that it's more dynamic than that when you actually introduce opponents you have to react to and get ahead of. Aside from spanking a buddy at Maximum Tune in an arcade every now and then, I never "got" the uh, other people, part of racing. Give me a free circuit to time trial in a racing game and I'll pull decent times for an amateur, but a dozen other guys on the track, all tryin' to have it all, is a nightmare to me and easily the most impressive part of road racing.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:Bookmarking that for the future, maybe next year especially if things continue to be less* covidy. (I hope that bit improves as well, for you and everyone else's sakes)
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Mister Speaker posted:Slavvy is right, Don't stop I'm nearly there Wrt how they do it with other people: games make you think racing is roughly like a bf1942 match where everyone is a rambo out for glory. But in reality it's more like a dance where even if you hate the guy and desperately want to beat him, there has to be a mutual respect and understanding that you won't do unpredictable poo poo and you'll concede the line when you're clearly beaten. People who repeatedly break the honor system find themselves unable to race in short order. This is what it looks like when the honor system breaks down and two of the most towering talents in history decide to have a boxing match via motorized proxy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWVc5VY5BKI (I don't know how to embed with a time so you'll need to skip forward 2-3 minutes)
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RightClickSaveAs posted:Thank you! Bookmarking that for the future, maybe next year especially if things continue to be less* covidy. Partner finds my obsession with IOMTT hilarious and likes to call it "the man race", we were thinking of doing some traveling in the future though and it's a beautiful country with lots of other stuff to do in between. If you're interested in going then most of the time you are looking to book a year in advance, or at least lay down your plans and do your investigation in that sort of timeframe. Certainly pre-covid you would have to book accommodation and the ferry (coming from mainland UK) as soon as bookings opened - pretty much straight after the racing from the year before. Also if you follow anything around the TT then you'll see that everyone says that the first one or two years are basically for finding your way round the track. There's a reason that even the best of riders don't just turn up and win. knox_harrington posted:North West 200 is kinda the next notch up from the TT in danger Yes and no. The NW and other Irish road racing events are less well known and less lucrative, and as a result have less 'safety' measures around the track (despite having improved massively in the last few years). That said the actual IOM TT course is probably amongst the most dangerous just based on raw speed, geography, volume of riders, lack of run off and hence impact of making a mistake. Fatalities per year speak for themselves. I really enjoy the NW but it's a very different event from the IOM.
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Slavvy posted:Don't stop I'm nearly there Holy poo poo how do we get this level of pettiness and amazing racing in today’s motogp. That’s incredible.
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That incident basically broke the sport and led directly to the current stewardship fiasco so idk. Just terrible dishonor for everyone involved, it's eased a bit now that Rossi has retired but the miasma of that race still hangs over every decision the organizers make when big names have biffo. Also: they were on Bridgestones so the front tyre didn't suck and let them do actual moves, Michelin have still not caught up despite the unceasing clamor for a stronger front.
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Once again an example of the ancient tale of Yamaha handling and Honda horsepower. Yamaha being the only moral and honorable Japanese brand builds their bikes to steer and brake with finesse and stability, whereas Honda the robber baron big oil capitalist frauds throw thoughtless millions of dollars into maximizing intake air flow in a 200rpm power band. Disgusting.
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What does that make Ducati though
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Slavvy posted:What does that make Ducati though Nowhere near a championship since 2007. Ba dum tish.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Once again an example of the ancient tale of Yamaha handling and Honda horsepower. Yamaha being the only moral and honorable Japanese brand builds their bikes to steer and brake with finesse and stability, whereas Honda the robber baron big oil capitalist frauds throw thoughtless millions of dollars into maximizing intake air flow in a 200rpm power band. Disgusting.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Once again an example of the ancient tale of Yamaha handling and Honda horsepower. Yamaha being the only moral and honorable Japanese brand builds their bikes to steer and brake with finesse and stability, whereas Honda the robber baron big oil capitalist frauds throw thoughtless millions of dollars into maximizing intake air flow in a 200rpm power band. Disgusting. The yamaha fanboi in me likes this post.
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RE: the recent IoM / TT chat... I live on the IoM, so if anyone's thinking of travelling over I could probably help out with some reasonable priced accommodation (if I can swing it with the other half), we've got 3 spare rooms and a double garage if anyone thinks of riding over. It'd be very much a "here's a key, come and go as you please, and don't be a dick" kinda thing as we tend to work for majority of it..I'm about a 20-25min walk away from the granstand/paddock area, unfortunately busses from here are a pain because of the lovely routes from the nearby stops At the very least I can try to help find some accommodation. I have a few colleagues that do the homestay stuff, and some that have holiday-let properties. Maybe help save on the extortionate hotel/BnB prices. Happy to help with any questions etc, just send me a PM. Here I am wobbling up the hill on the wrong side of the road ManxGP/ClassicTT in august is pretty cool too
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From the bikevestments thread:Slavvy posted:I think you'll find that's the color of FREEDOM and not a mere plebian 'orange' FREEDOM contains GLITTER. (I'm not normally one for Harley/cruiser stuff but I gotta say, this one looks fantastic!)
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I wish that was even in the top ten worst vrods I've seen.
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You live at ground zero for hosed up vrods though It'd be like me saying "that's not even in the top ten of lifted F350s with smog tunes and untreated fender rust"
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Slavvy posted:I wish that was even in the top ten worst vrods I've seen. I know who i'm talking to, but how can you (in this case the general "you" and not Slavvy) hate bass boat sparkle?
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Isn't the whole point of those things to park in the sun and attract admirers, then ride slowly down busy streets and annoy pedestrians? This one seems pretty fit for both purposes.
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It's true and I've only internalized just how bad the situation is in the last couple of years; I always thought it was like everything else in NZ ie a lovely low rent imitation of the real thing. I've only now realized we are actually on the bleeding edge of fuckwit bike innovation. And I want to emphasize: the worst most gangster bikes never make it to the internet, they only change hands for cash and they are the two wheeled equivalent of a dirty hypodermic needle. Occasionally, one of these dudes will get higher ambitions and spend 50-60k on something insanely dumb. Just look at these beauties: This one is my personal favorite because of the brakes: Slavvy fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Is that a see-through timing cover? Lol
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TotalLossBrain posted:Is that a see-through timing cover? Lol got 'eeem Slavvy posted:This one is my personal favorite because of the brakes: are... are those rotors painted?
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It's perfect, really. It'll never rub off because nobody who rides that bike is ever going to even think of touching the front brake!
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# ? Jul 14, 2022 22:01 |
TotalLossBrain posted:Is that a see-through timing cover? Lol Yes but what gets me is they spent money on one of those but didn't feel like replacing the bent foot peg. Renaissance Robot posted:It's perfect, really. It'll never rub off because nobody who rides that bike is ever going to even think of touching the front brake! What's remarkable is the listing has another shot of it in the street and the rear disc paint is still there so they clearly trailered it to a carpark.
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Renaissance Robot posted:It's perfect, really. It'll never rub off because nobody rides that bike! FTFY
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being able to look at your stator really got me good.
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Heard an audible "boop" in my head when viewing the third pic.
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Customized vrods always look like such rear end. I don't like the appearance of regular ol stock vrods, but that's just a personal thing because they look like 90s sunglasses or something. At least their original design is pretty cohesive across the bike. Interrupting that with stupid wheels or ape hangers just looks bad.
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Anything more than just a subtle add on almost always looks like rear end. Vrods already looked pretty oakley circa 1999 but then adding the worst trend of tall skinny bars to a long low bike makes it look like a child drawing of an American chopper. You either need to completely change the lines of the bike or leave it alone. In the name of customization, people are incredibly eager to make an okay/ugly bike look infinitely worse (not to mention the handling), and willing to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars to do so. I will never understand the attention seeking issues of the Harley crowd as a culture.
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Well, show me one application of those bars that actually looks good. I feel like they ruin every bike they’re on.
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Revvik posted:Well, show me one application of those bars that actually looks good. I feel like they ruin every bike they’re on. Much like their riders
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Verman posted:Anything more than just a subtle add on almost always looks like rear end. Vrods already looked pretty oakley circa 1999 but then adding the worst trend of tall skinny bars to a long low bike makes it look like a child drawing of an American chopper. You either need to completely change the lines of the bike or leave it alone. This is not remotely limited to Harley people, it is very much a general cruiser owner thing because they care far more about looks than function (or they wouldn't have a cruiser probably). At least the lovely AliExpress fakrapovich on squid's R6 is there because it theoretically does something to make them bike faster or better in some way. Likewise the lights and farkles on an ADV theoretically do something. Cruiser people seem to be in love with totally functionless modification in the name of somehow being a rebel with a 'custom' despite all the customisation being part numbers coming out of a corporate catalogue.
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This phenomenon is not limited to cruiser people, someone did this to their VanVan within the first 900 miles of ownership, replacing a ridiculously ugly tail end with an uglier, less useful tail end. And then selling it almost immediately.
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I was looking at used Bonnevilles and yeah … not limited to Harley people. There’s just more Harleys in the US, so the majority of us see them more often.
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Are we all forgetting the 2000-2010s cafe racer craze?
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# ? Jul 15, 2022 04:53 |
Yeah but those were meant to be a specific particular type of thing even if people did it in a moronic way. The cruiser thing is more like just modifying poo poo for the sake of it being modified, but then doing it in a really directionless, half assed, consumerist way.
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world's dumbest trials bike
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Honda is seriously missing a trick by not re-releasing this as an electric that weighs less than half as much
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Slavvy posted:It's true and I've only internalized just how bad the situation is in the last couple of years; I always thought it was like everything else in NZ ie a lovely low rent imitation of the real thing. I've only now realized we are actually on the bleeding edge of fuckwit bike innovation. And I want to emphasize: the worst most gangster bikes never make it to the internet, they only change hands for cash and they are the two wheeled equivalent of a dirty hypodermic needle. Occasionally, one of these dudes will get higher ambitions and spend 50-60k on something insanely dumb. Hmm I don't see that many vrods but oddly they seem to be the ones that don't get modded. gently caress those big front wheel ones that looks hideous. I like the red/blacked out color combo on the last one (especially if factory) but those dumbass bars just ruin it and....is the paint on the rotors just spray paint? Who takes a $5 can of spray paint to a set of $500 rotors??? You normally only see this on stolen bikes.
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