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Where does the CIA spinning bowtie reference come from? e.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 08:19 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 21:08 |
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https://twitter.com/CGMeifangZhang/status/1543475408116617217?t=4DEw2Igki-8gNvkuYSI17w&s=19
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 08:39 |
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China: The Prima Strategy Guide
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 09:06 |
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Jeff Fatwood posted:Where does the CIA spinning bowtie reference come from? it's from the last argument over this exact subject lol SorePotato posted:Who cares loser, your spinning bowtie cannot lead me astray from Xi Jinping Thought. I live eternal in the people's heavenly army, while you, a CIA brain floating in a jar, are set to be replaced in two weeks
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 09:19 |
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lol at this thread getting in a huff about jewish scripture, specifically the sephardics who were notably genocided by the hold on, getting new information here seems like it was israel, not jews at all. hey can you blame them, how can you tell who's sephardim and who's coptic, it's a real concern
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 09:38 |
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Not So Fast posted:it's from the last argument over this exact subject lol ok, I've seen that one but I didn't know if that was the original not. Just an exceptional piece of posting lol
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 10:32 |
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Not So Fast posted:it's from the last argument over this exact subject lol can't remember who the guy is, though.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 11:13 |
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They do this to me daily and the media refuses to listen
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 11:25 |
drinking a handle of liquor on a saturday night to show my allegiance to xi jinping thought
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 11:29 |
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Going to need CaptainACAB to weigh in on this. Mantis42 posted:China: The Prima Strategy Guide Always pick China Inf. Start by selling your CC, building rax, then spamming gatling & rocket infantry. Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 13:04 on Jul 3, 2022 |
# ? Jul 3, 2022 13:02 |
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Antonymous posted:I was at a movie screening yesterday and the team who made the movie was chinese and a white guy in the Q&A said "I used to live in china and I just want everyone to know this team is putting themselves in danger making a film in the west" and just kept talking and talking about what he knew about china and threw some chinese words in there and I thought of this thread well no poo poo, if whole media apparatuses were in the business of obfuscating the reality of northern europe and making it seems like the Human Hive from Alpha Centauri I'd be posting about how actually things in northern europe are a bit more mixed than all that and really, people are just people. But instead the media apparatus in this case is targetting china, you know, the biggest most important socialist project on the plant. Therefore, some of us dude, even dudes who have never been to china, are interested in what happens there and how problems are solved. "The West" is not "free-er" than china or anything like it, plenty of things are verboten depending on where you are.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 13:42 |
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mawarannahr posted:cultural genocide is a real thing imo from the perspective of what Turks have been doing to the Kurds and it’s usually pretty easy to distinguish from the traditional genocide versus the Armenians. it’s bad. for the layman this would constitute a genocide genocide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDoBBFVWLTg
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 14:25 |
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comedyblissoption posted:the turks have mass murdered the kurds, wiped their villages off the face of the earth, and expelled them by the millions with the political and material support of the united states and nato yea it seems like every case of genuine 'cultural genocide' arguments are just people not fully understanding how cruel an actual ongoing genocide is currently? Like, the Kurds are being genocide genocided, they're having their homes destroyed, their people murdered, their citizenship imperiled, all that jazz we just call normal genocide. It's just that the west is 100% supporting it so all we really see from the western lens is 'gee whiz Turkey sure is mean to Kurds!'
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 15:19 |
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comedyblissoption posted:the turks have mass murdered the kurds, wiped their villages off the face of the earth, and expelled them by the millions with the political and material support of the united states and nato that’s a good point but there’s a completely different genocidefeel and I’m not entirely sure it’s a difference of degree. I am trying to explain how I perceive it. in the metropole you were allowed to exist as a Kurdish person without outward expression of distinguishing cultural characteristics that Turkish people could recognize (eg getting kicked off the bus for speaking Kurdish). there are other aspects such as the religious component of discrimination was/is greatly altered versus the Christian Armenians, and there were efforts to integrate Kurdish ethnicity (“mountain Turks,” “kart kurt” etc.) that were not extended to Armenians and Greeks, partly on religious basis and because they couldn’t really be construed as a Type of Turk in the Sun Racecanon. maybe the distinction is also related to the historical class positions of different ethnicities, where Armenians and Greeks had more members among the petit bourgeoisie and bourgeois classes and embodied a different threat to the officer classes and bourgeois that led the Republican revolution. the property seizures during the pogroms of non-Muslims in western Turkey after the revolution (leading up to the final really big ones and mass deportations that left practically none) might point to this being a factor, to some extent. when the military and police have taken action to kill Kurdish people en masse within Turkey’s borders it is usually associated with a threat to the economic system — movements threatening to turn into worker uprisings or disruptions to the flow of goods and resources, punishment for harboring the Kurdistan workers party, and taking leftist movement leaders away in the infamous white Toros station wagons. this has also applied to groupings within Kurdish populations that couldn’t be subsumed in the broader Turkish identity, such as the Alawites. I guess within Turkey’s borders it seems like a broad ongoing destruction of culture with outbursts of genocidal violence. I think there’s a difference between “you’re basically not allowed to exist at all and we will kill or deport every one of you who exists, even if you hide it” and “you are allowed to exist in the parameters in the identity we built for you, should you accept it, and don’t ever think of doing something we think threatens the state and the systems of production, otherwise we will apply a cruder, less discriminating form of violence to you and yours.” there are basically no Armenians (or Greeks) to speak of in Turkey. there are a lot of Kurdish people and the people who wanted to kill all of them have not been able to (if this was their goal they failed miserably). I can’t watch the video atm, if you have a text source that would be good because I haven’t watched this yet. sorry if this post is a mess it’s early.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:01 |
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Antonymous posted:I was at a movie screening yesterday and the team who made the movie was chinese and a white guy in the Q&A said "I used to live in china and I just want everyone to know this team is putting themselves in danger making a film in the west" and just kept talking and talking about what he knew about china and threw some chinese words in there and I thought of this thread I saw a picture of Matt Bruenig on the TL this morning and thought of you.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:02 |
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mawarannahr posted:that’s a good point but there’s a completely different genocidefeel and I’m not entirely sure it’s a difference of degree. I am trying to explain how I perceive it. in the metropole you were allowed to exist as a Kurdish person without outward expression of distinguishing cultural characteristics that Turkish people could recognize (eg getting kicked off the bus for speaking Kurdish). there are other aspects such as the religious component of discrimination was/is greatly altered versus the Christian Armenians, and there were efforts to integrate Kurdish ethnicity (“mountain Turks,” “kart kurt” etc.) that were not extended to Armenians and Greeks, partly on religious basis and because they couldn’t really be construed as a Type of Turk in the Sun Racecanon.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:05 |
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I saw a picture of Matt Bruenig on the TL this morning and thought of you. wouldnt antonymous be liz bruenig or am i misremembering my genders
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:07 |
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comedyblissoption posted:[Asia/Oceania] a completely different genocidefeel
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:33 |
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mawarannahr posted:that’s a good point but there’s a completely different genocidefeel and I’m not entirely sure it’s a difference of degree. I am trying to explain how I perceive it. in the metropole you were allowed to exist as a Kurdish person without outward expression of distinguishing cultural characteristics that Turkish people could recognize (eg getting kicked off the bus for speaking Kurdish). there are other aspects such as the religious component of discrimination was/is greatly altered versus the Christian Armenians, and there were efforts to integrate Kurdish ethnicity (“mountain Turks,” “kart kurt” etc.) that were not extended to Armenians and Greeks, partly on religious basis and because they couldn’t really be construed as a Type of Turk in the Sun Racecanon. thanks for this post and lol at "a completely different genocidefeel"
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:37 |
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Zodium posted:thanks for this post and lol at "a completely different genocidefeel" I hope they don’t call my biopic that
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 17:38 |
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comedyblissoption posted:[Asia/Oceania] a completely different genocidefeel
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 18:38 |
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this genocide is giving me ALL the feels
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 18:47 |
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we talking about genocide again? https://twitter.com/SpokespersonCHN/status/1543520565797212161?s=20&t=LKtV-PWO-u5BdhrSu6SaMQ
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 19:01 |
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No you see the oppression of black people in America is not a genocide. Sure they sterilised, built their cities to trap them in ghettos and introduced crack cocaine to kill them when they started to get class consciousness. And they continue to murder them to keep them down. But that's just a few bad apples. Xinjiang is the true genocide.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 21:45 |
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Marenghi posted:No you see the oppression of black people in America is not a genocide. nice whataboutism. this thread is about Asian countries ONLY
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 21:49 |
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i think discussing the asiatic black man qualifies
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 21:50 |
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indigi posted:like honestly the idea that Arabic script isn’t important to Muslims globally is so weird to me. it’s like saying the Jewish diaspora places no value on the Hebrew alphabet Uygur language is mostly written in Arabic isn't it? mawarannahr posted:I think there’s a difference between “you’re basically not allowed to exist at all and we will kill or deport every one of you who exists, even if you hide it” and “you are allowed to exist in the parameters in the identity we built for you, should you accept it, and don’t ever think of doing something we think threatens the state and the systems of production, otherwise we will apply a cruder, less discriminating form of violence to you and yours.” there are basically no Armenians (or Greeks) to speak of in Turkey. there are a lot of Kurdish people and the people who wanted to kill all of them have not been able to (if this was their goal they failed miserably). I've read previously of a lot of Armenians converting to Islam and denying their Armenianness and continuing to live in Anatolia. I found this wiki article saying something similar, one guy claims one region of 35,000 people is 75% people like this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_Armenians
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 22:23 |
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Weka posted:Uygur language is mostly written in Arabic isn't it? thanks, this has a lot of interesting stuff I’d like to find out more on. quote:In 2012, Agos reported that the head of the Dersim Armenians Faith and Ancestry Assistance Organization (Dersimli Ermeniler İnanç ve Soyal Yardımlaşma Derneği) has said that hidden Armenians have nothing to fear in the present day.[21] I wish we could ask their former editor about this! quote:Hrant Dink (Armenian: Հրանդ Տինք; Western Armenian pronunciation: [ˈhɾantʰ ˈdiŋkʰ]; 15 September 1954 – 19 January 2007) was a Turkish-Armenian intellectual, editor-in-chief of Agos, journalist and columnist.[1]
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 22:28 |
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arabic script is not arabic language. We don't speak latin even if we use the script and a few words from the language
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 22:48 |
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it is a political-religious issue, fundamentalists love to cry about Ataturk replacing the Arabic script with Latin. meanwhile they’re trying to spread Arabic script (Jawi) in Malaysia and have been fining municipalities for not having Jawi signage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_alphabet posted:Today, Jawi is one of the official scripts of Brunei.[15] In Malaysia, it is used for religious and cultural administration in the states of Terengganu, Kelantan, Kedah, Perlis, Penang, Pahang and Johor.[citation needed] Various efforts were in place to revive the Jawi script in Malaysia and Brunei due to its role in the Malay and Islamic spheres. Jawi scripts are also seen at the rear of Malaysian ringgit and Brunei dollar banknotes. The Malays in Patani still use Jawi today for the same reasons.[citation needed]
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 22:55 |
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is Turkey the only other nation besides the US that has carried out multiple discrete genocides in the last century? (I know you could quibble about the US’ direct involvement but providing military training, endorsement through inaction, or gunking up the works at the UN counts imo, not to mention the diet genocide we’re still doing to Native Americans)
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 22:56 |
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e nevermind misread the quoted passage
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 23:00 |
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Antonymous posted:arabic script is not arabic language. We don't speak latin even if we use the script and a few words from the language Yeah but what is the chinese government allegedly deleting from mosques? indigi posted:is Turkey the only other nation besides the US that has carried out multiple discrete genocides in the last century? (I know you could quibble about the US’ direct involvement but providing military training, endorsement through inaction, or gunking up the works at the UN counts imo, not to mention the diet genocide we’re still doing to Native Americans) There's this group that was pretty political in ww2 called the nazis. Also for instance the OUN. Almost certainly the British but I'm drawing a blank aside from Bengal.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 00:08 |
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Weka posted:Yeah but what is the chinese government allegedly deleting from mosques? oh yeah UK definitely. arguably two just in British India between the famine and the partition. the Nazis did a bunch at once so I count that as one ☝️
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 00:16 |
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There has been a lot of ethnic cleansing that has happened in the last century. If you want a recent example you can look at what ISIS was doing. Lol
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 00:34 |
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Bhutan is a really good example of a successful ethnic cleansing that the world actively accepts.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 00:42 |
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Marenghi posted:No you see the oppression of black people in America is not a genocide. We didn't cultural genocide black people. We gave them white, Christian capitalism.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 00:48 |
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Marenghi posted:No you see the oppression of black people in America is not a genocide. Uh excuse me, I think you'll find that there are more Black people in the United States now then there were in the past ergo it's fine.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 01:02 |
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The term "genocide" was coined after the Holocaust to describe a racist crime against humanity so horrific that other countries must intervene to stop it. Then Rwanda happened, and the world realized that intervening in genocide is expensive and doesn't serve their interests. There isn't a firm line where one country's racist policies are definitely genocide and another country's definitely are not. The US accusing China of having a racist prison system and committing genocide against Muslims is clearly not coming from an enlightened concern for the rights of Muslim prisoners.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 01:06 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 21:08 |
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comedyblissoption posted:[Asia/Oceania] a completely different genocidefeel It was a good post but also thread title
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 01:11 |