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Tesseraction posted:Or, as the Alt-Right Playbook series terms this inconsistency, The Card Says Moops Sartre said it better in far fewer words. Jean-Paul Sartre posted:Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
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Cat Puke posted:I feel like this is a good example of the wrong way to cover Jones. It shows a wacky guy making up nonsense. It doesn't show that he spends most of his time using that nonsense as cover for encouraging political violence. I think there's a genuine problem in how you cover Jones. If you cover him as a crazy man saying crazy things, you're providing him the cover he needs to use those crazy things to slip dangerous conservative ideas into the public discourse. If you cover him as a legitimate political commentator, you risk making him a legitimate political comentator. If you ignore him, you risk letting his dangerous breed of rhetoric go unchecked.
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Neito posted:I think there's a genuine problem in how you cover Jones. It’s probably best to focus on him as someone who drives harassment toward the families of murdered children. That doesn’t legitimate or undersell what he does.
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I AM GRANDO posted:It’s probably best to focus on him as someone who drives harassment toward the families of murdered children. That doesn’t legitimate or undersell what he does. And hopefully soon will cost him a great deal of money and make him so toxic no one will risk giving him another show. He will probably always have a voice thanks to the internet but maybe we can make it a tiny squeaky funny voice that no one can hear.
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Levantine posted:Whatever a Conservative believes is true at any given time is true, regardless of any logical contradiction. "Contradiction" is just a liberal invention. All things are both true and untrue in any given situation to fit the argument being made that second, regardless of what was argued in the last second or will be in the next. Along similar lines, I'm hearing a lot of RWM talk that we aren't drilling enough but I'm pretty sure our oil output is pretty loving high. Dude I had on today seemed to acknowledge climate change but said we need to address it in a "reasonable way" instead of with "liberal fascism" or whatever he called it but, of course, offered no solutions whatsoever. I tried to get on air to ask himwhat, if anything, he proposed we do about climate change that doesn't involve drilling in ANWR or the Gulf of Mexico and other oceans. Was also gonna ask him if he remembered the BO oil spill but I didn't make it on. Thing that bugs me the most about this stuff lately is the idea and the assumption that Joe loving Biden is some kind of far left radical left wing socialist because LOL. And that IS going to be the takeaway for a lot of people; look what happens we swing so hard to the LEFT. poo poo, if "far left policies" were going to be blamed for everything, I'd rather go down in flames with an actual far left president and not this bullshit. Neito posted:I think there's a genuine problem in how you cover Jones. In a sane world, he'd just be mocked endlessly and laughed at but since he's on the radio, some people automatically take him seriously and it's compounded by this stupid idea that he's telling us what "they" don't want us to know. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jul 5, 2022 |
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Neito posted:I think there's a genuine problem in how you cover Jones. That's a difficult problem if your goal is ethical journalism. If your goal is driving traffic to your site, you can just cover his deliberately wacky smoke screens.
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Screaming Idiot posted:The only proper way to cover Jones is with a generous layer of napalm. Six feet of soil and some fire ants.
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In lighter IoSM news, the Minions movie is doing well at the box office, and cartoon culture warriors are heralding it as an anti-woke rebuke to the less-successful Lightyear movie. Edit: Oops, meant to post this in the PYF IoSM thread. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jul 5, 2022 |
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Screaming Idiot posted:The only proper way to cover Jones is with a generous layer of napalm. Get him that spicy and he'll really forget his kids' birthdays.
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Dr Christmas posted:In lighter IoSM news, the Minions movie is doing well at the box office, and cartoon culture warriors are heralding it as an anti-woke rebuke to the less-successful Lightyear movie. Sharpshooterfallacy.txt
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Zamujasa posted:Six feet of soil and some fire ants. What did fire ants ever do to deserve that???
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Neito posted:I think there's a genuine problem in how you cover Jones. I think the Knowledge Fight boys cover him as well as can be done, but most people aren't going to dedicate several hours a week to a podcast to keep up on AJ news, nor should they.
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Dr Christmas posted:In lighter IoSM news, the Minions movie is doing well at the box office, and cartoon culture warriors are heralding it as an anti-woke rebuke to the less-successful Lightyear movie. Interestingly, a few of theaters are pulling it after memelord idiots have been trashing the place and being generally loud and insufferable for tiktok points. https://www.newsweek.com/gentleminions-tiktok-trend-despicable-me-movie-suits-cinema-1721380
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I never got the visceral angry reaction to being woke or politically correct. For the most part to me, both terms just basically mean "try not to be a dick and attempt to be polite and considerate when possible". But I guess that's a bridge too far when your entire identity is built around being as obnoxious as possible and consistently punching down.
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BiggerBoat posted:I never got the visceral angry reaction to being woke or politically correct.
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BiggerBoat posted:I never got the visceral angry reaction to being woke or politically correct. When you correct someone on their pronunciation of a name, particular pronoun, etc you are establishing to them that you know more than them and that they need to do what you are telling them to. This is what drives them nuts. They'll only listen to people that exist in their own hierarcy, not that of others. So when someone they do not consider having an authority over them tells them what to do, they flip out. And this frustration serves as a bat signal to other frustrated bigots to join in on agreeing on how backwards they think the world is becoming.
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Panfilo posted:To them, the concept of correct and incorrect are concrete immovable things that they already know. 'Wokeness' turns that on its head by using criteria they think is impossibly subjective. Worse, they don't get to be the gatekeepers of wokeness, other people do. I think it's also just a general resistance to change in and of itself. Conservatism means keeping things just as they are forever, disguised as tradition. Take comedy for example. They're all running around crying about how "you can't say anything anymore" and whining about how easily offended people are, but what's considered funny or acceptable has always changed. Look at minstrel show poo poo, some of the old WB cartoons, Eddie Murphy or Sam Kinison. Henny Youngman or Milton Berle. Some stuff doesn't fly anymore and has aged terribly because things change - standards change - and conservatives hate change about as much as anything. Like, it's just no longer acceptable to make fun of gay people anymore "What's the problem? I used to call people f*****s all the time and everything was fine!" with no consideration for the shame, sadness and embarrassment that this caused to gay kids. As a bi male myself who didn't really realize it then, I recall distinctly feeling like poo poo when people would make gay jokes. "Well, that's fine, but why do they have to shove it down our throats?" when they've been shoving their bigotry down the throats of anyone within earshot for centuries and now feel censored when people call them out for being rude assholes now.
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BiggerBoat posted:I think it's also just a general resistance to change in and of itself. Conservatism means keeping things just as they are forever, disguised as tradition. Take comedy for example. They're all running around crying about how "you can't say anything anymore" and whining about how easily offended people are, but what's considered funny or acceptable has always changed. Conservatives are only ever funny by accident and even then it's served with a nice heaping of creeping terror. Their whole "snowflakes" phase was purestrain projection. No one is a bigger crybaby than a conservative that doesn't immediately get their way.
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Levantine posted:No one is a bigger crybaby than a conservative that doesn't immediately get their way. Or who feels slighted or mildly insulted. Hell, cuss words can send some of these people into a tizzy but, unlike them, if they object to me using the word 'gently caress', I make a genuine attempt to watch my language rather than jumping on them for being babies. They like to put on the tough guy but, man, you talk about being easy to loving trigger
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The gently caress do they care about Elliott Page? How does his decision effect their lives in any loving way whatsoever?
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BiggerBoat posted:The gently caress do they care about Elliott Page? How does his decision effect their lives in any loving way whatsoever? Because they have ~*opinions*~ and the world is required to hear them. Anything less is a complete abrogation of their freedoms.
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BiggerBoat posted:The gently caress do they care about Elliott Page? How does his decision effect their lives in any loving way whatsoever? They care about being outraged. Pretty sure that's basically it.
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BiggerBoat posted:The gently caress do they care about Elliott Page? How does his decision effect their lives in any loving way whatsoever? In Peterson's fourteen minute long two-camera setup video about his "ban" (none of them are banned) he acts like calling Elliot "Elliot" is unwieldy by saying both his name and his deadname like that's how you address him or it's hard to swap one word for another.
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BiggerBoat posted:The gently caress do they care about Elliott Page? How does his decision effect their lives in any loving way whatsoever? Conservatives are currently on the war path to erase trans people from existence either through forced detransition, transition prevention, or death. Elliot Page is the currently most famous and popular transgender figure in the western world. Culture Warriors always target the most popular or percievedly popular thing at any give time to attack. Remember, Jordan Peterson built his career in the first place off of crying about the sexual politics of Frozen II for gently caress’s sake. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jul 5, 2022 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:A bunch of right wing accounts are basically suicide-banning themselves from Twitter for the dumbest reasons
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dr_rat posted:They care about being outraged. Pretty sure that's basically it. Which is real convenient if even someone representing maybe <.05% of the population is somehow a call to arms and an affront to Christ. I bet the % of church pedophiles is much higher than that. Elliott Page can do whatever he wants, I could give really two fucks one way or the other and I hope he's happy. What's so god damned hard about that? Sorry if it ruins "Hard Candy" for you.
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BiggerBoat posted:Which is real convenient if even someone representing maybe <.05% of the population is somehow a call to arms and an affront to Christ. I bet the % of church pedophiles is much higher than that. Elliott Page can do whatever he wants, I could give really two fucks one way or the other and I hope he's happy. What's so god damned hard about that? Sorry if it ruins "Hard Candy" for you. It wouldn’t be the first time that happened
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I'm around the same age as Elliot and had a crush on them after Juno. They didn't stop being attractive and that must be very confusing for some people.
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Umbrella Academy has been a pretty good series on its own but how they handled it was super cool. "Oh your name is Viktor now? That's cool, do whatever makes you happy." One character even accidentally deadnames him and the response ends up being "Oh ok, I'll do it that way now. So what else did I miss while I was kidnapped?"
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Groovelord Neato posted:These idiots all invite a guy who goes by ZUBY on their shows and don't bat an eye at not using his real name. Didn't that guy have to scrub one of his podcast episodes from the internet because he had some weirdo culture war guy on as a guest who then went on to become a mass shooter in Denver?
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