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Antigravitas posted:The "zum Beispiel" at the beginning is quite important. Fair enough, I appreciate the clarification. Edit: https://twitter.com/maria_shagina/status/1545318030833491970 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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The Baltics be like, "No, no, don't throw me in the briar patch, Bear!" Rigel posted:Oh, Germany... Joke's on Germany. Corporations have termed humans as "resources" (i.e. "Human Resources"). Therefore people are infrastructure.  Antigravitas posted:It's still mindboggling that the thing was phased out just as drone warfare was picking up. It's really good at tracking and engaging drones, despite its old tech.
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I remember Antigravitas posted some German anti-drone auto cannon machine that looked sick.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I remember Antigravitas posted some German anti-drone auto cannon machine that looked sick. Yeah, I saw that too. At a guess, the US wants its Bradley replacement to do dual-duty as an anti-drone platform. I am not very knowledgeable about radar, but I assume modern radar platforms don't need to be massive if you can narrow their search angle.
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Ynglaur posted:Yeah, I saw that too. At a guess, the US wants its Bradley replacement to do dual-duty as an anti-drone platform. I am not very knowledgeable about radar, but I assume modern radar platforms don't need to be massive if you can narrow their search angle. You need size if you need range since the signal strength decreases. If you only need low range scanning they can be very small. IIRC the Trophy system used a tiny fire control radar to detect incoming projectiles
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Ynglaur posted:Yeah, I saw that too. At a guess, the US wants its Bradley replacement to do dual-duty as an anti-drone platform. I am not very knowledgeable about radar, but I assume modern radar platforms don't need to be massive if you can narrow their search angle. As with all military procurement the end results will be 1 part efficacy, 2 parts conglomerated Rube Goldberg design by committee.
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regarding short-range air defenses:mlmp08 posted:It's various stuff. M-SHORAD is in Europe now. There is also a variant being tested that uses directed energy for counter-mortar and couter-UAS. Pulling from the below account, because he posts a lot of this stuff and retweets and seems to have a decent pulse on acquisitions plans etc. His personal opinions on what to buy and what to do are whatever, but has decent updates on what is happening.
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I just keep reading it as SHODAN
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All these vehicle-based laser machines aren't going to be available to a lot of the countries with mostly mechanized infantry vulnerable to drones I have no idea what the best small anti-drone measures are, but there doesn't seem to be all that much. Those big EM guns currently need dedicated vehicle support, so possibly working on miniaturization of that? Anti-drone drones? There doesn't seem to be anything reliable besides having electronic warfare units deny the whole area. edit: Thought this was interesting it's set to some typically tasteless meme music but the into to this video has some pretty crazy video (specifically the one where they play it back in slo mo) from switchblades. The second half is one of the hosts unboxing a switchblade set. These are the same guys that interview POWs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Sllkg63Yw Victis fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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Comedy option: breed and train predator birds to gently caress them up.
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Didn't an airport try that against civilian drones (and gave up because while falcons will happily hunt pigeons, they don't care about weird plastic things)? E: apparently it was the Dutch police and they gave up because the eagles were unmotivated to hunt for things they didn't perceive as prey. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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My understanding is that the anti-drone laser systems are being developed independently of the Bradley AA-capable turret program.
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I'mma make a drone that carries a mirror, checkmate 
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:If the quoted dude is a glory hound why hasn’t he left like so many others? I was commenting on the guys who are upset because it wasn't easy or fun, or in their words, "disappointing" like they expected and instead an artillery hell where they are on the receiving end. I don't think poorly of people who leave in general. Just those who go there in there expecting it to be their chance to be a Call of Duty protagonist instead of being actually interested in fighting for the sake of Ukraine.
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The response similar to real life missiles will be automated turret systems that any military will find a big need for as drones continue to grow and become more and more ubiquitous.
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FishBulbia posted:https://twitter.com/islamicworldupd/status/1545434252581519362?s=21&t=W6HTxYi0De4qnWkiyEMN4g A lot of it turned out to have been shipped from elsewhere https://mobile.twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1545395779896066050
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Also, “a lot of armour”. 4 MBTs lmao. If anything, this is basically formal evidence that they just said “no” and left Lysychansk, before Russians did anything.
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It's not nothing. It's a reinforced company's worth of vehicles, which Ukraine is already in short supply of. Of course, if we just hand over a few brigades worth of tanks and IFVs in 3 months it won't matter, but so far the West doesn't seem inclined to outright build operational formations for Ukraine.
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It's what Taliban calls "loose change found behind seat cushions" Yeah, it's not great, but if they left them there there's chance they were already inoperable for some reason.
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I definitely agree that it’s not nothing, but the tweet attempts to claim that it’s a quote-unquote great cache of combat vehicles abandoned in Lysychansk, when this 1) was gathered from the entire entire area of the would-be cauldron even according the Russian commentators, 2) likely is in the ballpark of daily Ukrainian armour losses for the hot areas. It’s a loss alright, just not the loss Russians want to make an appearance of.
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This and stuff like the HIMARS "kills", or a while back there was drone footage of a UA mechanized attack getting bombarded and retreating in good order- all this seems like a flailing response to much more convincing footage released every day from the ukrainian side. Like, you could see the ukrainians stopping to pick up their dismounts. Nearly identical russian videos show the vehicles speeding away from their buddies only to unceremoniously blow up 75m down the road.
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You know we also don't know the condition of these vehicles. While they may look real nice from afar the turrets could be sabotaged or the electronics inside of the tank. It's a little different from when the taliban was driving around doing sideshows in m1 Abrams
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Oh dear, someone got his feelings hurt. https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1545510772868104193 Lavrov is mad because everyone one else just wants to criticise him for the war in Ukraine and not talk about the real issue which is find solutions to the global economic crisis.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Oh dear, someone got his feelings hurt. What did he think would happen?
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Oh dear, someone got his feelings hurt. Gee I wonder if those two things are connected in any way?
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CommieGIR posted:What did he think would happen? This but for every decision every russian leader has made for the past five months
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Oh dear, someone got his feelings hurt. RU sources describe it as he tried to talk to western leaders but only encountered feral russophobia.
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https://twitter.com/samramani2/status/1545522605502992387 Edit: https://twitter.com/jackdetsch/status/1545464126436265986 cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jul 8, 2022 |
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1545479924131266564?s=20&t=vZe9KlRxl5WSyY87qsNziw Do attacks like this continuing mean that the "operational pause" is a complete lie or is something else going on here? Are reckless attacks like this expected while Russia tries to pause and replenish its units?
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Chalks posted:Do attacks like this continuing mean that the "operational pause" is a complete lie or is something else going on here? Are reckless attacks like this expected while Russia tries to pause and replenish its units? They're called skirmishes. Some of this is testing defenses some of it is tick tac run and gun attacks. Russia is pulling troops from other borders and poo poo to get things back in order. They are running out of steam temporarily. If we start seeing gulags get liquidated then things are dire for the offensive.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:https://twitter.com/samramani2/status/1545522605502992387 Wow, what kind of damage can these do?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Wow, what kind of damage can these do? They are already being used to target ammo depots and C2/Military bases at long range.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Wow, what kind of damage can these do?
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Prettz posted:You know the MLRS of Desert Storm fame? It's that, but smaller and holds fewer of the rockets. I assume this is to be more mobile?
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I assume this is to be more mobile? The MLRS and the other systems provided are EXTREMELY mobile systems.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I assume this is to be more mobile? Its much faster and lighter, wheeled instead of tracked. Its also far more accurate (when used correctly) then the typical artillery cannon in Ukraine so instead of blanketing an area with hundreds of shells to hopefully hit something you want to the rockets hit where you want them to +/- some margin of error.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I assume this is to be more mobile? Kind of. M142 is mounted on a truck that goes ~80 km/h on highway, and M270 is mounted on a Bradley frame (tracks), but can still go ~60 km/h. I doubt either of those are being driven at max speed on rural Ukrainian roads, unless the Russian army alone isn’t meeting the desired health hazard levels. 
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Kibayasu posted:Its much faster and lighter, wheeled instead of tracked. Its also far more accurate (when used correctly) then the typical artillery cannon in Ukraine so instead of blanketing an area with hundreds of shells to hopefully hit something you want to the rockets hit where you want them to +/- some margin of error. CEP of about 1m iirc.
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