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muscles like this! posted:Voices are supposed to be taken care of by throat mikes but I think it is one of those things that gets kind of glossed over after the first couple of movies showing it.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Titling a docuseries about ultracapitalist dickhead crypto bros "The Anarchists" is extremely irritating, to me. That sounds absolutely irritating - where the hell is that from?
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Alhazred posted:Arkane is really good, but what drags it down is they chose Imagine Dragons to make the title song. The music in the show is otherwise really good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jfI-z__GY0 but the showrunners are so invested with Imagine Dragons that they even have a cameo. A lot of the music that was written for Arcane honestly just felt off, but the Imagine Dragons worship was particularly egregious (also the JID feature sucks). It genuinely feels like someone really high up at Riot is a massive fan of them. LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF has got to be one of the worst refrains I've ever heard. it just sounds ugly. But even beyond that, there's just a weird sense of a lack of direction given to any of the guest artists they had write a song. Enemy just sounds like Imagine Dragons singing about themselves and how they're disrespected, Misfit Toys has bars about 'the projects', etc. Hell, Dynasties & Dystopias is basically an extended riff on... the actual League of Legends game. Which is non-canon to the show  It's like they were given a vague mood or concept to write on and then whatever they came up with, the Arcane team just called it good. IIMM: Man the story of Arcane kind of sucked. Jinx is not a good character no matter how much they tried to salvage her from being purestrain 2008 lol random psychopath-ness, and hinging the entire central conflict escalating on her to the point people are bringing her up every five minutes is just annoying.
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For me, the discussion of on-the-nose lyrics in movies will always end with Eddie Vedder's insanely literal soundtrack for Into the Wild. I had to stop myself from laughing in the theater. https://genius.com/albums/Eddie-vedder/Into-the-wild-music-for-the-motion-picture
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ishikabibble posted:A lot of the music that was written for Arcane honestly just felt off, but the Imagine Dragons worship was particularly egregious (also the JID feature sucks). It genuinely feels like someone really high up at Riot is a massive fan of them. LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF has got to be one of the worst refrains I've ever heard. it just sounds ugly. I do get the vibe that along with someone on the team being all too fond of Imagine Dragons, Jinx is definitely someone's waifu.
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Jul 13, 2022 14:02
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Samovar posted:That sounds absolutely irritating - where the hell is that from? https://www.hbo.com/the-anarchists I'm all for a documentary about these idiots falling on their rear end but I'm getting real tired of people uncritically accepting the hard right reframing of terms and ideas.
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Crescent Wrench posted:For me, the discussion of on-the-nose lyrics in movies will always end with Eddie Vedder's insanely literal soundtrack for Into the Wild. I had to stop myself from laughing in the theater. https://genius.com/Eddie-vedder-society-lyrics quote:[Humming Intro] 
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Schubalts posted:Except for named former members, like Kakashi and Itachi, the ANBU are never shown actually being competent. ANBU being not able to successfully do their jobs is not really their fault, it is an inherent consequence of being in fiction and not being named characters. It is the same problem as any fictional security system, if it does the job perfectly there would not be a plot.
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I almost quoted this song too, if only for the all-time clunker of "We have a greed, with which we have agreed."
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Crescent Wrench posted:I almost quoted this song too, if only for the all-time clunker of "We have a greed, with which we have agreed." Still not as bad as "Generals gather in their masses, just like witches at black masses." "Classes" was right there, dammit.
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I'm sorry to derail alil, but last I was looking at was about music. I was wondering if any movies have good examples of a thematic song that plays multiple times in the movie but it a progression. Like they have an intro in the beginning and maybe one or two parts during the film and an end to the song either in the last bit of the movie or they get to the credits with it?
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Phanatic posted:Still not as bad as "Generals gather in their masses, just like witches at black masses." "Classes" was right there, dammit. Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches with thick asses
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Phanatic posted:Still not as bad as "Generals gather in their masses, just like witches at black masses." "Classes" was right there, dammit. Iirc the original second line was something about bodies burning in ashes but they felt they had to change it for the album
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nesamdoom posted:I'm sorry to derail alil, but last I was looking at was about music. I was wondering if any movies have good examples of a thematic song that plays multiple times in the movie but it a progression. Like they have an intro in the beginning and maybe one or two parts during the film and an end to the song either in the last bit of the movie or they get to the credits with it? Superman is kinda like that. It has a few small seconds of the main theme in the movie and then at the end it's full bore.
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nesamdoom posted:I'm sorry to derail alil, but last I was looking at was about music. I was wondering if any movies have good examples of a thematic song that plays multiple times in the movie but it a progression. Like they have an intro in the beginning and maybe one or two parts during the film and an end to the song either in the last bit of the movie or they get to the credits with it? The Daniel Craig version of Casino Royale very much does this with the James Bond theme which doesn't play out in full until the very, very end of the movie
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Nameless Pete posted:The Daniel Craig version of Casino Royale very much does this with the James Bond theme which doesn't play out in full until the very, very end of the movie I haven't seen that in along time but it's worth a second watch. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Superman is kinda like that. It has a few small seconds of the main theme in the movie and then at the end it's full bore. which superman?
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The 78 one. It's been a while since I've seen it though so I might be remembering wrong.
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somepartsareme posted:Iirc the original second line was something about bodies burning in ashes but they felt they had to change it for the album Oh the ashes lyric made it on, but it sucks too. quote:"Now in darkness, world stops turning War Pigs is a brilliant song but has some terrible "gently caress it tape and time is money, just put anything down!!" lyrics. Just real of dogshit couplets. Luckily it's one of those tunes where when Ozzy starts wailing your dumb brain is like "gently caress yeah! Black masses!" and just rolls with the nonsense.
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You actually understand the lyrics to songs?
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no, that's why i look them up online
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nesamdoom posted:I'm sorry to derail alil, but last I was looking at was about music. I was wondering if any movies have good examples of a thematic song that plays multiple times in the movie but it a progression. Like they have an intro in the beginning and maybe one or two parts during the film and an end to the song either in the last bit of the movie or they get to the credits with it? How to Train Your Dragon has one of the best drat soundtracks I've ever heard, with really nice clear and obvious motifs that even a dumbass like me can get. But the real cool thing is how the opening track from the sequel is a jaunty and jolly summary of all the music in the first film. It owns. My IIMM with the sequel is For the Dancing and the Dreaming. There's a moment where Stoic and Valka are reminiscing about their early courting days, and singing a song about it. And it starts out all delicate and emotional without music and then builds up to this bigger song, with all the instruments coming in, and they're dancing around and then it just stops. It could have been one of the great Disney-esque animation musical numbers, and then they pull out at the last minute and its such a shame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tEYV6QBw0E
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darkwasthenight posted:Oh the ashes lyric made it on, but it sucks too. Sabbath's whole career is basically this on a broader scale. Ozzy's a loving terrible singer, he has almost no range and his voice is super thin, but the whole package is so loving good that you're just like "gently caress yeah, The Wizard? Buh buh buhduh buh buhduhbuh!"
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I love Black Sabbath. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vypTcXxduQ
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Like all the best 70s music Black Sabbath is the dumbest poo poo in the best possible way.
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nesamdoom posted:I haven't seen that in along time but it's worth a second watch. The flaws really stand out on a second watch. Jesus, the poker bits are annoying. Texas Hold'em was trendy, so they play Texas Hold'em instead of baccarat. But then they felt the need to explain the rules to the audience, which they did because they're trying to make the individual hands plot material. They never explained the rules of baccarat in any of the previous Bond movies because *they don't loving matter*, all that matters is who wins and loses. But here since they want the audience to care about the flop and check-raising and poo poo like that they need to explain the rules, so they do it in the most ham-handed fashion imaginable: the uber-competent Treasury agent sent along specifically to make certain that Bond is handling the money responsibly turns out to know absolutely nothing about poker and the French guy has to explain such basic things as "tells" to her so that the audience understands them. Also, why does La Chiffre leave Vesper tied up in the middle of the road? He needs *her* for the account number, and Bond for the password. If Bond runs her over, he's screwed. If Bond dies in the crash (which, jesus, look at that crash, that's a real possibility), he's screwed. Why do this?
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Baccarat is entirely luck-based so it makes sense to get rid of it in favor of something requiring at least a modicum of skill.
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I haven't seen it in a while but isn't the scene where they explain the odds and bluffing necessary for the double agent plot line?
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Rockman Reserve posted:Baccarat is entirely luck-based so it makes sense to get rid of it in favor of something requiring at least a modicum of skill. The baccarat you see in most casinos these days is Punto Banco, which is entirely dealt by the dealer and yes, is entirely based on luck. The baccarat Le Chiffre and Bond played in the book would have either been Chemin-de-fer (Bank v 1 Player hand) or Baccarat Banque (Bank v 2 Player hands). There's still a lot of luck like all card games, but the players can make decisions about whether to draw cards. The player hand is limited by social niceties to generally deciding whether to drawn on a '5' total, but the banker hand can do what they want. The point in the book, from memory, was that Le Chiffre was going to be playing against two hands to to hedge against his loses. I think the problem is that baccarat is totally alien to most people even though that's where all the fancy big money is. Poker is more interesting, skills-wise and likely to be more familiar, but its not the game the fancy rich people would be sitting down to play.
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Even having walked past Baccarat tables in casinos I'm not entirely convinced its a real game.
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Phanatic posted:Also, why does La Chiffre leave Vesper tied up in the middle of the road? He needs *her* for the account number, and Bond for the password. If Bond runs her over, he's screwed. If Bond dies in the crash (which, jesus, look at that crash, that's a real possibility), he's screwed. Why do this? It was a gamble using Vesper to disable Bond. I think La Chiffre may have a gambling problem.
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Elissimpark posted:I think the problem is that baccarat is totally alien to most people even though that's where all the fancy big money is. Poker is more interesting, skills-wise and likely to be more familiar, but its not the game the fancy rich people would be sitting down to play. At least they dealt with that fact by having the table be full of new money types instead of like European aristocrats. marshmallow creep posted:It was a gamble using Vesper to disable Bond. I think La Chiffre may have a gambling problem. In the book he uses a spike strip, which might still kill Bond but is way less risky.
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Baccarat is basically blackjack, except two players play against each other instead of everybody playing against the dealer. Yes, I know this isn't 100% accurate, but it's close enough for the general idea and I use the word "basically" for a reason.
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rydiafan posted:Baccarat is basically blackjack, except two players play against each other instead of everybody playing against the dealer. Comparing it to blackjack is unfair to blackjack. The baccarat you'll see in a casino is just fancy War. (You can also play War in a casino.)
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"Huit a la banque" as dialog is simply more cinematic than having to explain an unfortunate flop.
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I thought Craig and Green had good chemistry, but that could be that Eva Green is just that electric.
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Elissimpark posted:(You can also play War in a casino.) https://youtu.be/8c1BQkKUsx0
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The problem with poker in movies is how everything is taken to such a goofy extreme. Players have super obvious tells and everyone is always getting the best hands.
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Show me the climactic poker game match finale where one guy has like a king high and the other a pair of nines.
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High Stakes game of Five Crowns. That would be hilarious.
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