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Spanish Manlove posted:I don't buy from them but it gets annoying to have to update my excel sheet of ethical tabletop poo poo all the time Yeah, hate to be slightly inconvenienced by not giving money to serial abusers.
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Countdown to "and yet you buy from" multinational corporation. checkmate" poast.
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 I'll take it, I've not painted a drat thing since 2014 and never worked with yellow.  Gonna base him tomorrow, prime the rest of the team once the weather dries down, and then start on another blitzer since I've got extras. Might try a blue jumpsuit this time, see how that works.
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What are the goon approved rattle can and airbrush matte varnish? I just have some army painter can that gives mixed results.
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Spanish Manlove posted:something something ethical consumption thanks bro Cat Face Joe posted:Countdown to "and yet you buy from" multinational corporation. checkmate" poast. Knock it off please folks. Just say why people shouldn't buy from Michigan Toy Soldier if that's a realpost and not an ironypost (I genuinely can't tell and I read back a page to try and see), and otherwise the whole "and yet you participate in society" "just asking questions" "debate" horror show can please be confined to the horrible politics subforums or the TG as an Industry thread. Goons are gonna shop at places we don't all approve of and derailing a thread to go after them about it sucks more than the tiny contribution each one possibly makes to our collective helldoom. I get that "where can I source a genuine W&N brush" is a relevant topic for this thread, I'm just asking to avoid the irony-poisoned one-liner sniping stuff. Thanks.
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Bored Online posted:What are the goon approved rattle can and airbrush matte varnish? I just have some army painter can that gives mixed results. Vallejo acrylic matte varnish spray can be found at art supply stores in the artist paint section and has a wonderful finish, much more even than army painter or citadel. I have never used airbrush varnish so I can't comment on that one.
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If anyone has used airbrush varnish I would be interested in a testimonial. Looking at an air brush for priming mostly, maaaaybe "painting" large flat stuff like vehicles but mostly do my painting by hand. If finishing also works well through an airbrush I would probably do that too.
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Jul 13, 2022 20:51
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Vallejo Mecha Matt or AK Interactive Ultra Matte are both fantastic picks for an airbrush varnish.
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Cinara posted:Vallejo Mecha Matt or AK Interactive Ultra Matte are both fantastic picks for an airbrush varnish. Agree 100% I've also used the normal Vallejo varnishes and those work well top. But the mecha stuff is very nice
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Rustoleum Dead Flat is literally Testors Dullcote in a bigger can for less money, buy that
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There's no hidden gotchas like "Oh yeah the chemistry of using them means it only works under the moonlight of a second Tuesday of the month and you have to clean it with unicorn tears"?
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MECHA MATTE I use the mecha gloss too, but "normal" vallejo satin for satin. No reason. I'll airbrush these on now, but I hand-brushed them all beforehand and they still looked great (thin all of these slightly)
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Silhouette posted:Rustoleum Dead Flat is literally Testors Dullcote in a bigger can for less money, buy that I've been using this the last few months and really like it so far. The Rust-Oleum that is.
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tangy yet delightful posted:I've been using this the last few months and really like it so far. The Rust-Oleum that is. Just what I was looking for. I'm using the basic rustoleum painters touch matt and it's still far too shiny w00tmonger fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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 hit my fire bois with a layer paint and did their crests. its starting to look nice. im still sweating what to paint their pants. maybe a charcoal grey?
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The Demilich posted:Don't buy anything Definitely, but the W&N issues aren't just an Amazon knockoff thing. You can get poo poo ones from places like Blick just as easily. Bored Online posted:What are the goon approved rattle can and airbrush matte varnish? I just have some army painter can that gives mixed results. I stopped with cans years ago but for airbrush Badger Stynlrez is basically magic as long as you don't drown the figure in 5x as much as you need (and shake the white well). John Badger is grumpy about credit cards at conventions but as far as I know he's not a pedophile or anything. The Moon Monster fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Anyone know a great place to get a deal on green, brown, or grey kneadatite?
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bird food bathtub posted:There's no hidden gotchas like "Oh yeah the chemistry of using them means it only works under the moonlight of a second Tuesday of the month and you have to clean it with unicorn tears"? Acrylic varnishes are dead-rear end simple. Same rules as paint, so managing humidity-related fuzzing is the hardest part. They clean up just like acrylic paint. Enamels and lacquers require the same level of cautionary handling as equivalent paints, so I wouldn't recommend them if you're asking these questions just yet. TBF Dullcote ain't got poo poo on Mecha Matte anyway.
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Mecha matte makes my 4/10 paint jobs look like 5/10s Also, consider multiple levels of glossiness! I'll spray matte and then go back and pick out lenses/glass/shiny metals/blood/liquid with gloss, and satin for bone or ivory, etc
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The Michtoy guy's deal - the direct owner of the company, not just some stooge floor manager - is the prototypical small business tyrant. He's an abusive creep towards male and female employees alike, ist ein sexmonster, and his big-brain play a while back was to try and defraud Peter Jackson. Jackson can go get hosed himself, but if I were running a nerd business I would personally not try and rip off the Lord of the Rings guy.
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w00tmonger posted:Just what I was looking for. I'm using the basic rustoleum painters touch matt and it's still far too shiny Rust-Oleum actually makes Dullcote for testors, and the exclusivity deal on the formula ran out a few years ago so now they sell it as Dead Flat. When I said it's literally the same thing in a bigger can for less money, I meant it 
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AK interactive’s matte or ultra matte are both superb for airbrushing.
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Cat Face Joe posted:Yeah, hate to be slightly inconvenienced by not giving money to serial abusers. any other local creeps I should be aware of?
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Roughly half my minis were finished with spray can matte varnish I got in the craft paint aisle at Michaels, and I couldn't tell the difference between them and the ones I've airbrushed with Vallejo varnish.
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Lumpy posted:Roughly half my minis were finished with spray can matte varnish I got in the craft paint aisle at Michaels, and I couldn't tell the difference between them and the ones I've airbrushed with Vallejo varnish. Same but with the various DecoArt DuraClear polyurethane varnishes I've used (mainly brushed those ones on).
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I brush on liquitex matte varnish, I like being able to control how thick it goes on.
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i saw a short documentary on how they make w&n s7 brushes about 10 years back and all of their expert staff was 95 years old so i assume all the people that knew what they were doing over there are dead now
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What is the recommended white airbrush primer?
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punishedkissinger posted:What is the recommended white airbrush primer? I heard good things about pro acryl
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punishedkissinger posted:What is the recommended white airbrush primer? The only white primer I have used is Vallejo Surface primer (which I thin a little bit) and it seems to work fine.
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Lumpy posted:The only white primer I have used is Vallejo Surface primer (which I thin a little bit) and it seems to work fine. So you thin it with anything specific?
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bird food bathtub posted:So you thin it with anything specific? I have a big bottle of Vince's thinner recipe: 4 parts airbrush thinner to 1 part flow improver.
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"Airbrush Thinner" is a broad category right? It depends on the type of paint yeah?
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bird food bathtub posted:So you thin it with anything specific? I just use a bit of Vallejo airbrush flow improver. That stuff is magic
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i just do vallejo black with a white ink zenithal of varying intensity. is there any benefit to trying different colors of primer?
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jarofpiss posted:i just do vallejo black with a white ink zenithal of varying intensity. is there any benefit to trying different colors of primer? If you have 20 Stargrave minis to use for random hive scum in your Necromunda campaign, you can prime the white, slap speedpaint on them, and get them all done over lunch!
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Lumpy posted:If you have 20 Stargrave minis to use for random hive scum in your Necromunda campaign, you can prime the white, slap speedpaint on them, and get them all done over lunch! 20?   Some dupes but uh.... Yeah that's the plan...
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Lumpy posted:If you have 20 Stargrave minis to use for random hive scum in your Necromunda campaign, you can prime the white, slap speedpaint on them, and get them all done over lunch! i use a lot of speed paint & contrast paint and i think there might be a couple that actually give a finished single coat i like. im still debating if it makes me any faster because i either still have to do clean up or have to paint perfectly in one pass.
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jarofpiss posted:i use a lot of speed paint & contrast paint and i think there might be a couple that actually give a finished single coat i like. im still debating if it makes me any faster because i either still have to do clean up or have to paint perfectly in one pass. One or two of these guys see the table for a couple hours if a gang is so outclassed they need help; I don't care what they look like and was debating just leaving them unpainted... but I couldn't do it, so I limited myself to a lunch hour for all 20.
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jarofpiss posted:i just do vallejo black with a white ink zenithal of varying intensity. is there any benefit to trying different colors of primer? The colour of the undercoat can influence whatever you base with on top. Red, being pretty translucent for example, looks a lot warmer with a sepia/brown undercoat than with straight white/black. Blue makes things cooler, etc. Depends on how translucent your base paints are -- contrast and speedpaints will definitely be influenced by the undercoat.
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