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Danny popping acetaminophen (if I saw it correctly) I thought was going to end up leading to him getting fast-acting Martian liver warts or something
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I didn't catch the label on the initial bottle but he pulled oxycodone and amphetamines from the medicine storage.
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Jul 16, 2022 00:42
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Data Graham posted:Danny popping acetaminophen (if I saw it correctly) I thought was going to end up leading to him getting fast-acting Martian liver warts or something It also had codeine on the label below acetaminophen, which led to him raiding the medicine cabinet when he ran out of that itchy nightmare fuel.
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Jul 16, 2022 01:11
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I must say the man who immediately wanted to defect to the people who had just burned his coworker alive in front of him for reaching for a phrasebook later turning out to be a stupid jackass felt like a very logical progression
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Jul 16, 2022 01:27
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ShowTime posted:I haven't finished this episode, but I will tonight, and goddammit, that's not Texas, that's Amurica. Texas is its own thing and Shiner comes from Texas. ShowTime posted:Certain people, for sure, would cal that into question. But 95% other people don't. You know the phone you use is used by millions of others and made in an entirely different region, right? Yeah but there are strict laws about who can work on space technology in the US. There are restrictions about how it can be exported. Maybe this is different since it's just the Russians paying to get access to their machinery and they are not actually buying anything for their own use.
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Jul 16, 2022 02:17
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the first thanksgiving on mars ending in painful secrets being uncovered, a drunken fist fight, and sitcom level hijinks was so perfect. hi bob lol
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blue squares posted:Yeah I loving hated the politics in this. The most purestrained lib poo poo. If you’re pissing off both sides that means you’re being the adult in the room! it's interesting from our current perspective of complete political gridlock that their reason for acting as they did was "but my jobs bill!". how good could that jobs bill be, really? Data Graham posted:Danny popping acetaminophen (if I saw it correctly) I thought was going to end up leading to him getting fast-acting Martian liver warts or something
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Jul 16, 2022 03:16
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Sivart13 posted:it's interesting from our current perspective of complete political gridlock that their reason for acting as they did was "but my jobs bill!". how good could that jobs bill be, really?
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Sivart13 posted:watching a bunch of martians go hard on the vodka in a cramped space made me anxious. I don't know what space party culture is like but if I had been without liquor for a month or more one shot is fine thanks I was thinking about how much water you need to drink when you're slamming back liquor  bad idea to get drunk when you have tight water rations, they're gonna be so loving hungover
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Jul 16, 2022 03:30
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Danielle subtly dumping her shot in a plant or whatever she did with it, and then chugging the whole bottle at the end, was pretty tight
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The entire point of this show is that investing in space led to huge benefits to humanity: technologically, scientifically, economically, and most importantly socially. Remember, this show posited that merely landing some women on the moon would advance women’s rights to the point where the operational, personnel, and political heads of NASA were all women in the 1980s. By the end of this season gay rights will have been pushed beyond what happened in reality with Don’t Ask Don’t Tell happening around the same time.
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Jul 16, 2022 03:58
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Comrade Fakename posted:By the end of this season gay rights will have been pushed beyond what happened in reality with Don’t Ask Don’t Tell happening around the same time. Ellen will implement "no gay, no play" where you can not play professional sports if you are not gay.
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Comrade Fakename posted:The entire point of this show is that investing in space led to huge benefits to humanity: technologically, scientifically, economically, and most importantly socially. Remember, this show posited that merely landing some women on the moon would advance women’s rights to the point where the operational, personnel, and political heads of NASA were all women in the 1980s. you are no comrade of mine
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I'm pretty sure scientist by the 90s wouldn't react like that if a colleague came out.
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gohmak posted:I'm pretty sure scientist by the 90s wouldn't react like that if a colleague came out. Lol loving moron
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Her guy also mentioned (and seemed to emphasize) midterm elections coming up and re-election in 96. I think they said they already lost seats in the 94 midterms
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Jul 16, 2022 05:20
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Gonna lol if Ellen floats a "oh wow my husband is gay what a shocking thing I'm learning right now for the first time" and that's the coverup that gets her.
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Jul 16, 2022 06:48
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Literally anyone thinking this is floating DADT as some sort of west wing / centrist compromise wonder just... stop watching TV. They had some music going at the time is the only point in favour of this argument however 1. Husband suggested it, who has been since season 1 the "keep everything in the closet" dude even though she wanted to flirt with then idea of changing their lives. He has pushed her into politics and into bigger positions, even as she saw her out and proud ex lover living a happy life while she was stuck lying. 2. The numerous shots of her watching the TV looking despondent or the look on her face as she delivered the address make it clear she loving hates it 3. The show has consistently put social/political points on socially progressive points going faster than in real life, or making points with characters. tons of women in leadership positions, first women and black astronauts in space/moon going faster, woman president, immigrant acceptance with Aleida, etc. When things are bad it has explicitly called it out as "BAD". 4. The goddamn episode started with the black gay man looking at the Martian landscape and smiling, and ended with the black gay man who we are talking about looking out on a land millions of miles from home and realising that it loving changes nothing. How ANYONE can look at that and say "lol libby poo poo endorsing DADT" just again, stop watching TV if you can't read basic cues
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Jul 16, 2022 07:20
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It was less stirring emotional music and more "hey we've hit on a clever longshot solution" music. Which is still inappropriate given that it's exactly the same solution as in the real world, but I don't think they were going for that. The show is fairly liberal but it's in the 2022 sense, not the 1996 sense. Speaking of which, I don't know if I can foresee a big timeskip happening at the end of this season. We're setting up a lot of plot to pay off in four episodes. Maybe there's a couple of months or a year, but there's only so much old age makeup they can put on these characters and none of them have future astronaut grandchildren yet.
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Jul 16, 2022 07:34
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The age thing is a problem moving forward (go go cyborg Ed!!!), but season 2 had a lot of plot lines around the mid-late episodes and it wasn't until the finale that the plot lines not only met each other but were also resolved. Or in the case of Margo left as a teaser for season 3, but either way.
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i appreciate the two gay guys poo poo talking larry at the end but this same "perfect compromise" bullshit goes down bad when trans people are at legitimate risk of having our existence bartered over in the same way in 2022/24.
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Rappaport posted:The age thing is a problem moving forward (go go cyborg Ed!!!), but season 2 had a lot of plot lines around the mid-late episodes and it wasn't until the finale that the plot lines not only met each other but were also resolved. Or in the case of Margo left as a teaser for season 3, but either way. NASA discovers the secret to youthful rejuvenation as part of research meant to make astronauts more resistant to damage from cosmic radiation and low gravity, all the old people go back to season 1 appearances 
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I just caught up on episode 5 and wanted to sneak into the thread to say  at "How inspiring!" before the cut to credits 
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I decided overnight that Will is 100% going to be staying on Mars. I think they said the mission was scheduled for 2 years? Well he can't be discharged if he never goes home. Plenty of time for them to set up a permanent base with the full lake of water they've found. Echos Ed doing the same back in season 1 as well.
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They're about to find Water, and pretty sure Danny counts as thr first alien life on Mars, time to party. lol at Ed flying over to the habitat like he's geriatric space dad flying around in his space walker. "How do you like working with my daughter?" "..." *Ed gestures* "...Who!?" So many funny buts this episode. EvilHawk posted:I decided overnight that Will is 100% going to be staying on Mars. I think they said the mission was scheduled for 2 years? Well he can't be discharged if he never goes home. Plenty of time for them to set up a permanent base with the full lake of water they've found. Echos Ed doing the same back in season 1 as well. I assume he'll be one of a handful of defections to Helios.
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gohmak posted:I'm pretty sure scientist by the 90s wouldn't react like that if a colleague came out. I'm genuinely curious how old you are
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tokin opposition posted:i appreciate the two gay guys poo poo talking larry at the end but this same "perfect compromise" bullshit goes down bad when trans people are at legitimate risk of having our existence bartered over in the same way in 2022/24. By the end of the season Ellen will announce that actually DADT didn’t go far enough and will probably just completely lift the ban on gays in the military.
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Jul 16, 2022 13:01
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Do they have contraception with them in space? First thing I thought when Kelly and that dude started boning down is first space baby. Boom, new character to explore even further into space in the future. Also please for the love of god somebody kill Danny ffs.
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:Do they have contraception with them in space? First thing I thought when Kelly and that dude started boning down is first space baby. Boom, new character to explore even further into space in the future. I was thinking yuck they are on water rations
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gohmak posted:I was thinking yuck they are on water rations lmao, everyone floating slowly away from them during conversion because they reek of sex. Edit: Also if she has a baby then technically she finds life on Mars
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Riptor posted:I'm genuinely curious how old you are 40. 90s were homophobic yeah but this show is making it seem like the 60s level. Science professionals wouldn't act like that. My mother was a CDC Epidemiologist 96-. gohmak fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jul 16, 2022 |
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tokin opposition posted:you are no comrade of mine The Russian is acting like a pron actress about to back out of scene because she found out the co-star has done gay work. Director- "But he tested clean two weeks ago" "Anything could have happened in to weeks"
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Danielle is legitimately the only competent person on Mars and one of like 3 actually competent people in the show (Aleida and Bill are the other two, Will's alright maybe, maybe) and God it must be so frustrating for her having to deal with everybody else's bullshit. Even Margo has fallen, which is sad to see, even a possible happy ending with Sergei (as unlikely as that now appears) which I once wanted more than anything doesn't really justify a lot of the bullshit she has allowed to happen this season. Ed being a giant hypocrite and a selfish rear end in a top hat is entirely in keeping with his character so I can't be too mad about that, but him leaving NASA because he was sick of nerds running everything* only to go straight to happily helping the Soviets keep a lake of water on Mars secret so his company can profit from it.....  Wayne: Karen, find the movie of your life, what do you want to be? Karen: Nestle. Wayne: Then go be N.... wait, what? * Turns out Margo was absolutely right and Danielle was 100% the best person for the job, and beat Ed to Mars despite all that so-called "in-the-moment" stuff that Molly tried to claim she wouldn't be able to deal with as well as him.
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If the show actually thought it was a perfect compromise it wouldn’t have called it a perfect compromise Or done it in episode 7 of a season-long arc
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Watch the Russians play both sides off against each other. Red planet Mars, baby.
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Jerusalem posted:* Turns out Margo was absolutely right and Danielle was 100% the best person for the job, and beat Ed to Mars despite all that so-called "in-the-moment" stuff that Molly tried to claim she wouldn't be able to deal with as well as him. Danielle hosed things only slightly less than the Soviets did. If not for the fact that Helios is nearby her rush to get to surface would have killed both the remaining US and Soviet crew members stranded on Mars with no way home. As it is they were lucky that landing blind only hosed the engines, a few few back and the ship could have been torn in two on landing.
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To be fair, if Helios hadn't been nearby she wouldn't have felt the pressure to push for the surface when the dust started clearing at the last second, and just gone around for another orbit. If she hadn't had the Soviets onboard too (and lost two of her own crew in the process of saving them, which again only happened because Helios hosed everything up) then the Habitation Pods would have been set up with the right amount of food/water and space for the original complement. Every step of the way she has had other people's dumb poo poo getting in the way of her doing her job at a high level. There was the drama over the Command of the flight from Molly jumping the gun which itself was based on a pissing match with Margo. Then her old friend basically throws a tantrum, tells her she only got the job because of affirmative action, then bails to join a private firm which pushes up the schedule from 4 years to 2. Her co-pilot falls off the wagon and she does the right thing by grounding him, and Helios (Ed specifically) immediately picks him up despite her laying out exactly why the old school bullshit "let's sweep alcohol and drug abuse under the carpet!" mentality couldn't continue. But she does the work, she assembles her crew, she even adds Ed's daughter to the crew and doesn't just dismiss her as "Ed's daughter", taking onboard her argument for why her credentials beat that of the botanist they planned to take originally. She gets Sojourner up and out there, they prove that NASA and their nerds who don't have fighter pilot " balls" have more innovative tech than Helios when they deploy the solar sails, they're well-organized, competent, professional, and it's paying dividends. Then Helios and their bullshit flat management team override Ed's decision to save the Soviets (who are in this problem because they tried an Ed-style piece of bullshit that backfired on them) which leaves Danielle no choice but to do it instead, which she does without complaint even knowing it will likely mean they have no choice but to return to Earth. Even then she's figuring out potential ways to salvage the trip and thinking on the fly like apparently Molly thought she wouldn't be capable of doing (by the way, Ed overriding Helios' command lockout comes thanks to one of those nerds he looks down on!), she keeps two crews together and everybody appears to be more than capable of working under her apart from the Russian commander who seems very much in the Ed mold, as the way they so casually got on immediately demonstrated. Even after making it to Mars, she has to deal with technical issues, the distraction caused by Will's revelation, and then she discovers the Soviets she saved and the private company that tried to stop her getting to Mars in the first place are icing NASA out to go divvy up a giant water resource together, and that Ed apparently had absolutely no issue with going along with that and had no intention of even giving her a heads-up despite a seemingly pathological hatred of Soviets up to that point in his life. Basically, Danielle owns, and deserves better, is what I'm saying 
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I cosign the above, well put. Pretty sure the music during Larry's coming up with Uniform First (what a great name) was there to lift him up just in time for the final scene, where he's clearly about to get wrecked. For all I know, the writers are dogged centrists who took great delight writing that scene, but the dramatic function is real.
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Just made the connection that Molly is the same actress that played Penny on  and my mind is a bit blown.
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