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Interesting article about how China's central government is becoming deeply concerned about the destabilizing potential of...LARPs. https://www.economist.com/china/2022/07/07/chinas-communist-party-cracks-down-on-larping quote:Despite lockdowns, the number of venues for playing it has risen from fewer than 3,000 in 2019 to tens of thousands. A Chinese firm, iiMedia Research, estimates fans spent $2.7bn on the game in 2021. From a survey of internet users it concluded that, by 2021, jubensha (LARPs) had become the third most popular offline pastime after the cinema and the gym.
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Is that really LARP or like also those escape rooms
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Plutonis posted:Is that really LARP or like also those escape rooms It's a murder mystery game. 劇本殺 jubensha 'opera/cinematic murder'.
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I wish every escape room here in the US were instead an elaborately themed murder mystery roleplay experience.
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Bottom Liner posted:I wish every escape room here in the US were instead an elaborately themed murder mystery roleplay experience. A local place near me is actually doing it in more of a LARP style. Like there's still puzzles, but the overall gimmick is that the gamemaster has a soundboard and controls, and is also playing some kind of NPC via a soundboard of most common responses. So they had one themed room of being in a spaceship and talking to different AIs, and another room was fantasy themed and talking to a tree spirit, and a spirit trapped in a scarecrow in the centre of the room. You couldn't progress the room without chatting to the NPCs, and you were encouraged to stay in-character.
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Bottom Liner posted:I wish every escape room here in the US were instead an elaborately themed murder mystery roleplay experience. Goddamn, same. I've always wanted to do a murder mystery dinner party, but have been dragged to so many lame escape rooms instead.
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Bottom Liner posted:I wish every escape room here in the US were instead an elaborately themed murder mystery roleplay experience. The last one I did started as a fairly mundane murder mystery but as we progressed it got crazier and crazier until in the last room we literally had to defeat a Beholder. It was awesome. 10/10 Mother's day.
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feedmyleg posted:Goddamn, same. I've always wanted to do a murder mystery dinner party, but have been dragged to so many lame escape rooms instead. I did one back in high school for a friend's birthday, it was pretty fun. Though for awkward teens you get the inevitable moment when two people find out they're having an affair.
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Some of the Murder Mystery Party kits sold in the US are that style. You assign each player a character and a script, and at the end of acting out the script you have to guess who the murderer is. I'm sure that just like ours, though, they have a bunch of different takes on the premise. Personally, I'm more a fan of the scriptless ones with like money and poo poo you can exchange to gain information.
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Nickoten posted:Some of the Murder Mystery Party kits sold in the US are that style. You assign each player a character and a script, and at the end of acting out the script you have to guess who the murderer is. I'm sure that just like ours, though, they have a bunch of different takes on the premise. Personally, I'm more a fan of the scriptless ones with like money and poo poo you can exchange to gain information. I don't think ours had a script, exactly. If I remember right it was a set of bullet points/suspicions about other characters and you'd get more with each chapter/course. So you finish the appetizer and say "oh yeah, you were pretty angry the afternoon of the murder, what was that about" and they either just read the reason or actually try to act and get cagey. Some people in my group were drama nerds so they went for it, but I doubt any of us did a good job or anything. We had fun. I've only seen a couple of episodes, but if those games sound up your alley there's a Korean show from about 5 years ago called Crime Scene (크라임씬) where TV celebrities do a bunch of them. Fansubs exist.
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Is anyone familiar with any RPGs that strictly define their combat encounters to sort of construct them start to front as a relatively brief but still crunchy broader overview-type thing? World of Darkness 5th edition put the idea in my head of the "three act combat" where it's a handful of very directed rolls, not necessarily an "always three turns" thing or whatever, but rules and guidance for something that doesn't just eat whole sessions, and that being the entirety of the combat subsystem, but also not just by being super light, airy or one-roll. Of course it's WoD, so the actual "three-turn combat" guidance is just "use the hoary old blow-by-blow system, but stop after three turns and the ST gives you the wrap-up based on the vibes of those three turns." That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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That Old Tree posted:Is anyone familiar with any RPGs that strictly define their combat encounters to sort of construct them start to front as a relatively brief but still crunchy broader overview-type thing? World of Darkness 5th edition put the idea in my head of the "three act combat" where it's a handful of very directed rolls, not necessarily an "always three turns" thing or whatever, but rules and guidance for something that doesn't just eat whole sessions, and that being the entirety of the combat subsystem, but also not just by being super light, airy or one-roll. Offhand, Trollbabe has a very strict system where a conflict is basically an opposed roll you can escalate if you don't like the outcome, with escalating risks along with that. Witchblood, which takes a lot of influence from Trollbabe, does the same. Cortex Prime defaults to treating conflicts as a quick back-and-forth of rolls until one side fails to beat the other's last roll (or concedes). Hollowpoint also has a very structured setup for how action scenes work. Dogs in the Vineyard has its structured "raise and call" system. Ironsworn and Starforged both envision conflicts as a progress track you fill up, and Forged in the Dark games usually give at least the option of modeling a fight as one or more progress clocks.
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That Old Tree posted:Is anyone familiar with any RPGs that strictly define their combat encounters to sort of construct them start to front as a relatively brief but still crunchy broader overview-type thing? World of Darkness 5th edition put the idea in my head of the "three act combat" where it's a handful of very directed rolls, not necessarily an "always three turns" thing or whatever, but rules and guidance for something that doesn't just eat whole sessions, and that being the entirety of the combat subsystem, but also not just by being super light, airy or one-roll. Pelgrane’s Yellow King RPG does a really neat one-roll combat round with different requirements to succeed depending on what you want the combat to achieve (ie. driving someone off, capturing them, killing them). It’s a really neat idea.
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Came in to recommend checking out Hollowpoint before I saw GIP's post.
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Thanks a ton for the suggestions.
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Lumbermouth posted:Pelgrane’s Yellow King RPG does a really neat one-roll combat round with different requirements to succeed depending on what you want the combat to achieve (ie. driving someone off, capturing them, killing them). It’s a really neat idea. Some skill challenges are extended multi-round affairs, with each side raising and lowering stakes until the whole thing is resolved, but you're only supposed to bring those out at narratively appropriate times (the fight against the big bad at the bottom of the dungeon, etc.). Most fights are handled by a single die roll - matching Bandit 14 (+3 because of ambush) versus your Sword & Shield FIghting 3W, for example.
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Shadowrun charity bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/shadowrun-trpg-catalyst-game-labs-books Considering what I heard about Shadowrun 6, not sure if I'll take it.
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It's not 100% the same, but the Sentinels of the Multiverse supers RPG has a clock attached to every combat that ends the combat when it reaches the end, whether you've already won or not. Generally everyone in the combat will get about seven turns each then it's all over, and as the clock ticks down things get more extreme and chaotic.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Shadowrun charity bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/shadowrun-trpg-catalyst-game-labs-books I remember 4 (and 4.5 to a lesser extent) being extremely stingy on content in the core book, particularly on stuff like hacking, and I seem to recall 5 having a similar problem. I said if I ever played it again, I'd want to use a different system like Feng Shui. I don't know why. I honestly never got into the magic and fantasy race stuff in Shadowrun. Fortunately, I think that game can remain in the past. In the ten years or so since I played, not only has some of that stuff probably not aged super well, but also actually good cyberpunk RPGs have been printed.
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Magnetic North posted:I remember 4 (and 4.5 to a lesser extent) being extremely stingy on content in the core book, particularly on stuff like hacking, and I seem to recall 5 having a similar problem. I'd actually love to hear that because Shadowrun takes up a lot of space but the things that are really unique about shadowrun (bookkeeping more complicated than running most businesses, really uncomfortable native american fetishization, crappy fantasy, and really creepy "purity" system) are all profoundly unappealing to me, but slapping on some mirror shades to rob a cyber-bank is cool.
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Tulip posted:I'd actually love to hear that because Shadowrun takes up a lot of space but the things that are really unique about shadowrun (bookkeeping more complicated than running most businesses, really uncomfortable native american fetishization, crappy fantasy, and really creepy "purity" system) are all profoundly unappealing to me, but slapping on some mirror shades to rob a cyber-bank is cool. I admit the only one I know by name is the goon project Hard Wired Island which I have not played but looks cool based on the quick reference sheet. I just assume there are others because motherfuckers nowadays release like 60 RPGs a day, there's gotta be some good stuff in there. Funny this should come up today, because yesterday I thought about O'Neill cylinders for the first time in a while.
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The new Homeworld: Revelations game (apparently) doesn't include any rules for space fleet combat, which seems like a bold move for an RPG based on a game about... <checks notes> space fleet combat.
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Should each player get a fleet or do they cooperate on running one?
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MonsieurChoc posted:Shadowrun charity bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/shadowrun-trpg-catalyst-game-labs-books Shadowrun 6e just came out with a new book called Shadowrun Companion which contains "alternate" rules which address loads of major complains about how 6e made no sense what-so-ever and did loads of pants-on-head stupid changes. The bundle doesn't contain it, which pretty much means it's nigh unplayable in that state.
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Shadowrun 6e just came out with a new book called Shadowrun Companion which contains "alternate" rules which address loads of major complains about how 6e made no sense what-so-ever and did loads of pants-on-head stupid changes. The bundle doesn't contain it, which pretty much means it's nigh unplayable in that state. I'd be interested to hear about what some of these changes are, just from a design perspective.
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Magnetic North posted:I'd be interested to hear about what some of these changes are, just from a design perspective. Off the top of my head they made strength matter for melee attacks and redid a bunch of things they did for calculating edge, like making armor matter. There was a pretty extensive list that are less “we listen!” And more “wow, we really did gently caress this edition up!”. Edit: the book is called sixth world companion. You can look up reviews for more details ninjoatse.cx fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jul 18, 2022 |
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Siivola posted:Should each player get a fleet or do they cooperate on running one?
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Siivola posted:Should each player get a fleet or do they cooperate on running one? 90s Cringe Rock posted:"now you pick a class: pilot, gunner, shipbreaker, scientist, or fleet command." I'd go with each player having command of their own ship(which solves the issue many sci-fi games have about making everyone relevant during space combat) and the "class" choices being what type of combat ship it is, ranging from small* and speedy Corvettes to titanic Dreadnoughts *well comparatively, I'm picturing more in the line of Legends of The Galactic Heroes than Star Wars in terms of scale
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CitizenKeen posted:The new Homeworld: Revelations game (apparently) doesn't include any rules for space fleet combat, which seems like a bold move for an RPG based on a game about... <checks notes> space fleet combat. Does it or does it not consider Cataclysm to be canon and Homeworld 2 to be non-canon? Because those parts are very important for my interest in any piece of Homeworld media.
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PurpleXVI posted:Does it or does it not consider Cataclysm to be canon and Homeworld 2 to be non-canon? Because those parts are very important for my interest in any piece of Homeworld media. I don't know (I didn't pre-order through Modiphius, I'm holding out for my FLGS, so I'm basing this on hearsay). They did employ Martin Cirulis, who was the lead writer of both Homeworld 1 and Homeworld:
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PurpleXVI posted:Does it or does it not consider Cataclysm to be canon and Homeworld 2 to be non-canon? Because those parts are very important for my interest in any piece of Homeworld media. Why not have Homeworld 1, Cataclysm and 2 be canon? Does it somehow not interact?
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Mr.Misfit posted:Why not have Homeworld 1, Cataclysm and 2 be canon? Does it somehow not interact? HW2 doesn't outright contradict Cata, but it also kind of pretends it didn't happen. It would not be hard to fit them all into the same game with only minor tweaks. The problem is that HW2 was dogshit, so "tweaking the setting so that you can have HW2 in there as well as HW1 and Cata" is not actually something you should do. CitizenKeen posted:The new Homeworld: Revelations game (apparently) doesn't include any rules for space fleet combat, which seems like a bold move for an RPG based on a game about... <checks notes> space fleet combat. Depending on when and where it's set, I think HW definitely has room for RPGs that don't directly involve space fleet combat, with it happening either in the background or not at all. Like, just off the top of my head: - slice of life RPG about defrosted Kushan survivors living and working on the Mothership during the events of HW1 - scavengers or shipbreakers exploring the debris ring that formed after the battle for Hiigara, or, for some extra biological horror, one of the battlefields from Cata - if you want a heavier combat focus, play as one of the boarding teams who has to deal with all those Taiidani ships the salvette crews keep dropping into the mothership's hangar - wind it back to the start and play as one of the scientific expeditions exploring the depths of the crashed ship on Kushan - diplomats to the Bentusi or other alien races post battle of Hiigara, trying to deal with both doing your job of establishing diplomatic relations with the galactic society the Kushan were isolated from and dealing with political intrigue, assassination attempts, etc from people who don't like the way you've upset the status quo ToxicFrog fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Jul 18, 2022 |
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Mr.Misfit posted:Why not have Homeworld 1, Cataclysm and 2 be canon? Does it somehow not interact? It's been a long time, but from what I remember 2 mostly ignores Cataclysm's plot and sets up a bunch of contradictions. Edit: or what ToxicFrog said.
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drrockso20 posted:I'd go with each player having command of their own ship(which solves the issue many sci-fi games have about making everyone relevant during space combat) and the "class" choices being what type of combat ship it is, ranging from small* and speedy Corvettes to titanic Dreadnoughts I can't remember the name of it off hand, but there's a game that does exactly this with an AI fleet. Something that would never work with my usual group but presented interesting ideas. Never did see any play reports of whatever it was.
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SkyeAuroline posted:I can't remember the name of it off hand, but there's a game that does exactly this with an AI fleet. Something that would never work with my usual group but presented interesting ideas. Never did see any play reports of whatever it was. Transit: The Spaceship RPG. Every PC is an AI in command of a starship with a squishy organic crew who may or may not obey their orders. Also one of the stats is called Rampancy.
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Mirage posted:Transit: The Spaceship RPG. Every PC is an AI in command of a starship with a squishy organic crew who may or may not obey their orders. Yeah, that's the one. Seemed interesting. Concept is too alien to sell my group on and sure as gently caress beyond my GMing.
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SkyeAuroline posted:I can't remember the name of it off hand, but there's a game that does exactly this with an AI fleet. Something that would never work with my usual group but presented interesting ideas. Never did see any play reports of whatever it was. Transit. I played a campaign of it, it was quite good! The rules have some problems, specifically in copy-editing, but the basic structure of 'you have two classes, one is your brain and one is your body, and the body is disposable' is very well implemented, and I rather liked the rules about how your crew can fight back against you. It was the one AW like where I had +4 as a regular pool, which was...truly disgusting.
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