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fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

ASAPI posted:

I am also noticing that the airport that you fly from and to is more important now.

Never fly in/out of DEN after like noon in the summer. I just flat out wouldn't make a connection here during the summer either. I'm risking it flying in around 3 in the afternoon in a couple weeks.

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I haven't flown since getting off the plane home from Iraq in 2005 and I'm not planning on doing it again, ever. Just kinda feel like I ran that line of luck as far as it can go after a bunch of military flights. Besides, I can smoke on long drives.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Really speaks to the folly of man that humanity could realize its most ancient dream that inspired artists and troubadours for thousands of years and then within a single lifetime make it such a lovely experience that nobody wants to do it anymore

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Fly air new zealand you clowns

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I still like a flight, but I'd rather land somewhere big and then drive 3-4 hours than chance some little airport not to have a maintenance or crew shortfall problem.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Fly air new zealand you clowns

Are you gonna sponsor my citizenship?

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
I've flown United and Sotuhwest extensively recently and not really had any problems. Then again I fly out of Houston which are main hubs for both. Connection? What's that, never heard of it :v:

Meanwhile the one single one-way flight I tried to book on American got canceled.

Diarrhea Elemental
Apr 2, 2012

Am I correct in my assumption, you fish-faced enemy of the people?

Discussion Quorum posted:

I've flown United and Sotuhwest extensively recently and not really had any problems. Then again I fly out of Houston which are main hubs for both. Connection? What's that, never heard of it :v:

Meanwhile the one single one-way flight I tried to book on American got canceled.

The cost of that is that you're in or around Houston. I'd take the higher chance at delays and other problems.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

Diarrhea Elemental posted:

The cost of that is that you're in or around Houston. I'd take the higher chance at delays and other problems.

Great comment/avatar combo.

Sacrist65
Mar 24, 2007
Frunnkiss
I flew air France as my first foreign airline experience and it was like having a sleep over at a rich friend's house. Only then did I realize I how I could be living

To those who have flown on Spirit and Ryanair, how do the budget airlines compare?

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
The quickest way to turn a billion into a million is to start an airline. Except the US is a captive market due to ownership regulations and terminal slots. Competition is limited and the product is trash. Virgin is the case study.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.

Arcella posted:

My last few Southwest trips were luckily uneventful except for weather delays. We're going to Europe in October on Lufthansa and I'm pumped. Never flown on a non-US airline before. And it's on a 747 which I've always wanted to be on.

I just did LAX MUC BUD on a united coded flight on Lufthansa. Had a 24 hour layover in MUC on my return. Check in LAX and BUD was loving stupid long. LAX was 2 hours 20 mins. I go to BUD at 345am, and still have probably 30 people in front of me.

In MUC, I was checked in, bags dropped and through security on a Sunday morning in 15 minutes. I felt like I won life.

The LAX MUC flight was 12 hours long. Nice staff, but they didn't really enforce the German mask mandate. Meals were mediocre, wine good, only canned Becks beer (shudder).

Boarding was chaos, but they have those self boarding lanes. A secret is to slide in at the end of the group 1. The AI gates won't stop you from boarding if you're not in the currently boarding group. :ssh:

If your flight is through their MUC hub, I highly recommend a long or overnight layover. They have a Lufthansa bus that goes to the main Munich train station for only 17 euros.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Or grab a €9 ticket and ride all public transit (except intercity trains) as much as you want. There's a train station at MUC and the S1 and S8 lines go the main station.

Go to Augustiner Bräustuben, order the Schweinshaxe and a Ruß'n Maß. Enjoy to the fullest.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 28, 2022

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
But I think the 9 euro ticket ends in August?

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

A.o.D. posted:

Is that how Dial-a-Doc works? I just figured that they were unqualified phone counsellors that would either tell you that you're not really sick that'll be 75 dollars please, or You need to go to our affiliated clinic that'll be 75 dollars please, or you need to go to the emergency room that'll be 75 dollars please.

We’ve had good experiences the two times we’ve used it and both times talked to a real doctor. First was for a bug bite and within an hour had the needed prescription on hand. Second was for a sick baby and got the info we needed. Wouldn’t replace a primary physician but when you need help for a quick question or on a weekend it worked great.

Airlines chat, a relative was a pilot for a long time with AA and when he retired took a lump sum rather than trust them to administer his pension, as while on paper it was more money he didn’t trust them not to go bankrupt.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Right, it does. I missed the October part. Still, I would expect the S-Bahn ticket to be cheaper than the LH-Bus.

E: Yeah it's €12,30.

E2: But everything is relative, we paid €1K total for two people from Copenhagen to Munich and back. A-yup.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Evil SpongeBob posted:


Boarding was chaos, but they have those self boarding lanes. A secret is to slide in at the end of the group 1. The AI gates won't stop you from boarding if you're not in the currently boarding group. :ssh:
lol, both "boarding is chaos" and "why yes, I actively contributed to the chaos". Kicking queue jumpers off the flight while still sending their bags to the destination would be a good start to making the experience less poo poo.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
GOOGLE TOWER SEVEN

JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

THEY STOLE THE ELECTION

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1552716060687847425?t=Jmd9hmz7dHD5eMOukzrsYQ&s=19

this is what peak performance looks like (poo poo)

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

facialimpediment posted:

GOOGLE TOWER SEVEN

JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

THEY STOLE THE ELECTION

Ahh. Playing the hits today.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
House GOP and a pile of Republican Senators decided to whip against the CHIPS Act today because they're mad at Manchin, didn't matter. Pelosi didn't lose a single vote and gained 24 Republicans too, they just held off until Ds delivered the 218 needed.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1552733039670722565?t=rfd8EPuG10HCV0jqmZKKGA&s=19

$50B in incentives inbound to make more semiconductors in-country.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.

Cugel the Clever posted:

lol, both "boarding is chaos" and "why yes, I actively contributed to the chaos". Kicking queue jumpers off the flight while still sending their bags to the destination would be a good start to making the experience less poo poo.

I appreciate your edginess and snark, but Lufthansa goes from "first/business/frequent flyer class boarding" right to everyone else. There are no boarding groups after group 1.

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

facialimpediment posted:

House GOP and a pile of Republican Senators decided to whip against the CHIPS Act today because they're mad at Manchin, didn't matter. Pelosi didn't lose a single vote and gained 24 Republicans too, they just held off until Ds delivered the 218 needed.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1552733039670722565?t=rfd8EPuG10HCV0jqmZKKGA&s=19

$50B in incentives inbound to make more semiconductors in-country.

I like this "active" Democrat party. The real question is, who or what lit the fire under them to actually motivate them to do... well... anything?

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





ASAPI posted:

I like this "active" Democrat party. The real question is, who or what lit the fire under them to actually motivate them to do... well... anything?

Its July, people might remember stuff in November. They won't.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

ASAPI posted:

I like this "active" Democrat party. The real question is, who or what lit the fire under them to actually motivate them to do... well... anything?

On the chips act stuff - last/this year's chip shortage on ~~everything~~, plus China making noises about loving with Taiwan - where a shitload of chips are made. Also the big tech companies saying "hey, we'd like to make chip factories and research facilities in [target district x], but the math doesn't work and we'll have to go to China".

On the Provisional IRA - there were some legislative time bombs involved (ACA subsidy expiration, Coal Black Lung pay-for expired), plus the election. Nothing gets Congress to actually Do Things like a legislative time bomb in an election year.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jul 28, 2022

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Maybe building a big solar/wind field next to that samsung plant in Texas with some fuckoff huge batteries would be a good start for this chips poo poo.

Nevermind that texas is probably a lovely place for a chip factory, samsung picked it (probably because of tax breaks), and we can't really afford for windmills to stop working lol (or natgas pumps freezing) putting the plant into a blackout. Those places have very strict shutdown procedures and relying on the texas grid is a massive lmao if that's the continuing plan.

But we're also probably going to wind up with crypto miners somehow getting a handout from this too. Somehow.

Arcella
Dec 16, 2013

Shiny and Chrome

I specifically chose the non-united flights. We’re going through the Frankfurt hub from Houston and then to Copenhagen. I’d rather not fly out of IAH since Hobby is much closer but 🤷‍♂️

Burt
Sep 23, 2007

Poke.



facialimpediment posted:



On the Provisional IRA - there were some legislative time bombs involved (ACA subsidy expiration, Coal Black Lung pay-for expired), plus the election. Nothing gets Congress to actually Do Things like a legislative time bomb in an election year.

I am not sure if you did this on purpose but it's quite magnificent. :dumbbravo:

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

https://twitter.com/jamieson/status/1552662399840407555

Burt
Sep 23, 2007

Poke.



Also from someone who used to commute monthly to Australia from the UK for a living, airlines ranking;

Any Far Eastern > Any Middle Eastern >>>> Any European National >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any Euro budget >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any ex-sov bloc >>>>>>>> RyanAir

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
We just gave a giant welfare package to an industry making money hand over fist and you dipshits are high fiving over it lmao

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Sacrist65 posted:

Totally not sponsored buzzfeed article:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rebeccakhera/spirit-airlines-review

Notice to you closet bringers and soda sippers, your days are numbered.

People just celebrating our race to the bottom. I can't wait for this type of article on a future healthcare system run out of an old pizza hut where a "Nurse" who got certified in Florida after a 40 hour course zoom calls you to prescribe antibiotics.

"Forcing workers to see you in person is low key ableist, remote healthcare is inclusive, pay extra to have a COLD stethoscope on my chest? NO THANKS."

Oh its classist to accurately state that Spirit is the worst airline I've had the misfortune of flying with, ever, and I will never do so again? gently caress that, they suck.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Burt posted:

I am not sure if you did this on purpose but it's quite magnificent. :dumbbravo:

stole it from Twitter like everything else

https://twitter.com/TangoPapa_/status/1552638864627535877?t=XifCzOMglC9iL0GIPUQi1w&s=19

https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1552751449813225473?t=q7COaLG9RfQ3aVFFFPB-ng&s=19

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1552754186072326144?t=AddH3soRz9pFF3plUFkXow&s=19

*loser game show noise*

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jul 28, 2022

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


facialimpediment posted:

House GOP and a pile of Republican Senators decided to whip against the CHIPS Act today because they're mad at Manchin, didn't matter. Pelosi didn't lose a single vote and gained 24 Republicans too, they just held off until Ds delivered the 218 needed.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1552733039670722565?t=rfd8EPuG10HCV0jqmZKKGA&s=19

$50B in incentives inbound to make more semiconductors in-country.

Biden is gonna veto it since the republicans went against their leadership. Now is not the time to play partisan politics jack!


Holy poo poo they literally called their trap the TRAP.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

A friend worked for an aerospace company designing passenger seats. He said they ranged from luxury sleeping pods down to pretty much chicken wire with a seatbelt that met minimal FAA requirements. Ryanair had checked into that as an option.

Fragrag
Aug 3, 2007
The Worst Admin Ever bashes You in the head with his banhammer. It is smashed into the body, an unrecognizable mass! You have been struck down.
How's Air Canada? I'll be heading from Brussels to Vancouver via Montreal next week for work. We booked via Lufthansa but it'll be Air Canada operated flights.

Also Lufthansa have been having issues recently with crew strikes and a large amount cancelations.

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

The way I've heard it explained, a business can make a ton of money: 1) selling/leasing/maintaining aircraft (and in particular engines) or 2) renting out landing & gating slots at airports, and almost impossible to make a cent operating an actual airline since the other two will adjust their fees accordingly to siphon off any margin you might accumulate. Competing airlines are always just going to be crabs in a bucket racing to the bottom in terms of service trying to eke out as much excess value they can to waste on stock buy-backs while Boeing/Airbus/GE/P&W and the lease-holders of ATL/DFW/DEN/ORD/... make off like bandits.

So in other words, America needs to get on the same wavelength as the rest of the world and adopt socialism now nationalize the US airline industry.

Arcella
Dec 16, 2013

Shiny and Chrome

Burt posted:

Also from someone who used to commute monthly to Australia from the UK for a living, airlines ranking;

Any Far Eastern > Any Middle Eastern >>>> Any European National >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any Euro budget >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any ex-sov bloc >>>>>>>> RyanAir

What counts as "Far Eastern" JAL, Korean Air, etc?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Where do african airlines fall on that scale? Assuming above soviet era?

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Where do african airlines fall on that scale? Assuming above soviet era?

If you're flying on an Africa-based airline, fly South Africa, Ethiopian Airlines, or Kenya Airways. I think Kenya and South Africa are merging or partnering their airlines in the future?

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Iirc kenya stopped doing intercontinental flights over fuel shortages recently so that would track.

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