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Harold Fjord: Jan 3, 2004

Selling nfts of my old pennies so we still have the asset even after they are scrapped

# ? Jul 29, 2022 03:45

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# ? May 25, 2024 08:26

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Dustcat posted:

until 1982 they were mostly copper, so there are people who have been sorting their change and checking the year of each penny and hoarding them

and selling their catch to bitcoin dudes

That seems like a monumental waste of time.

But at least the bitcoin morons can add destruction of currency to their eventual list of charges.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 03:46

Slow News Day: Jul 4, 2007

Griz posted:

anything good in this will be more than offset by manchin's bullshit

https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/n...NQzBRQXZEX0J3RQ

This article appears to be based on a misreading of the bill text:

https://mobile.twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1552774289614639105

# ? Jul 29, 2022 03:50

God Hole: Mar 2, 2016

Lordshmee posted:

That�s loving insane. I assume, after the cause was learned, the school doubled down on maintaining the turf because they were bought by the local retailer?

lol

# ? Jul 29, 2022 03:57

Mayor Dave: Feb 20, 2009; Bernie the Snow Clown

Slow News Day posted:

This article appears to be based on a misreading of the bill text:

https://mobile.twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1552774289614639105

Not really, all it means is that it's uneconomical right now, not that it won't ever be

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:03

Filthy Hans: Jun 27, 2008; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 10 years!)

Mayor Dave posted:

Not really, all it means is that it's uneconomical right now, not that it won't ever be

gonna be a really funny day when the US completely derestricts arctic drilling

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:10

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Perry Mason Jar posted:

A 4K tax credit for a used EV would be great. I'd jump on that, I've had my 17 year old car about 5 years now

Edit: what do they go for on the low end???

I got a used 2014 Leaf for $10k about four years back so I'm guessing $12k is the bare minimum for something that isn't falling apart now.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:11

Evil_Greven: Feb 20, 2007; Whadda I got to,
whadda I got to do
to wake ya up?

To shake ya up,
to break the structure up!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvFkLWHRUwo
im sure water under thwaites being 4�C is fine

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:19

Griz: May 21, 2001

Vox Nihili posted:

I got a used 2014 Leaf for $10k about four years back so I'm guessing $12k is the bare minimum for something that isn't falling apart now.

I looked at craigslist and the cheapest EVs here are a 10 year old Leaf for $12k and an 8 year old one for $13k

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:21

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

there will be sufficient food for everyone

Our Final Warning: Six Degrees of Climate Emergency, Mark Lynas posted:

3� - Food Shocks

Even assuming sufficient water remains in sub-tropical regions to grow crops, the Lancet Planetary Health paper mentioned earlier projects that farmers and agricultural labourers will find it virtually impossible to work outside during daylight hours for most of the hot season. The paper�s authors caution that its conclusions are �conservative� in that they only assess shade temperatures; in full-sun conditions the threshold of workability is much lower. The three-degree world will therefore most likely see the elimination of subsistence and smallholder farming from almost all of Africa and South Asia, destroying the livelihoods of more than a billion people. Livestock will not be able to survive in such temperatures either, removing a vital source of protein for many of the world�s poorest people.

Even ignoring the physical challenges faced by farmers working in extreme heat, climate projections show that in a three-degree scenario, large parts of the continent of Africa � the Sahel in the north, and across Zimbabwe, Zambia and South Africa in the south � will see failed harvests and drastically reduced yields due to soaring temperatures and reduced rainfall. One paper even uses climate models to forecast �when and where cultivation of key crops in sub-Saharan Africa becomes unviable�. It warns that African governments will need to prepare for large-scale harvest losses, and that even shifting back into drought- and heat-tolerant traditional crops like sorghum and millet will not save farming in the Sahel and drier parts of southern and eastern Africa from virtual extinction. This time it is not just maize; vital food crops from bananas to beans get wiped off large areas of the map as the temperature rises. With no food, no water and no cattle, people throughout sub-Saharan Africa will face famine on a scale not seen in the modern era.

Like humans and animals, plant crops also have heat tolerance thresholds. Studies in India show that wheat suffers drastic yield declines once temperatures pass 34�C, while experiments elsewhere indicate that a 2�C warmer-than-average growing season leads to a wheat yield reduction of 50%. In the US, which produces 41% of the world�s corn and 38% of the world�s soybeans, scientists have found critical temperature thresholds of 29�C for corn and 32�C for soy, beyond which productivity declines drastically. As the experts point out, these crops comprise two of the four largest components of the human food supply and are therefore critical to avert global hunger. Once the critical temperature thresholds are factored in to the projections, US production for these two vital crops declines by between a half and two-thirds in a three-degree scenario this century.

Global projections for food production in a three-degree world are hardly any more reassuring. The areas most affected by summer heat-stress events � the interiors of large continents, where summer temperatures are projected to rise much faster than the global average in a three-degree world � overlap with all the world�s most crucial grain-producing areas: the central and northern US and southern Canada, the plains of eastern Europe and southern Russia, southern Brazil and eastern China. According to one recent study, the �global hot-spots of heat stress on agricultural crops� include the northern part of the Indian subcontinent, perhaps humanity�s single most important food-producing area given the direct dependence of hundreds of millions of South Asians on food produced there. Cooler higher latitudes are not much better off, as heatwave-induced damage to harvests occurs throughout the Northern Hemisphere � even as far north as Scandinavia, Canada, Russia and Alaska.

Ironically, these are exactly the areas that earlier climate models projected would most likely gain from global warming. In its 2007 report, for instance, the IPCC predicted that world agriculture outside the tropics and sub-tropics would mostly benefit from up to two degrees of warming. For mid- to high-latitude regions, the IPCC wrote, �moderate to medium local increases in temperature (1�3�C) � can have small beneficial impacts on crop yields.� These forecasts, which were based on models looking at long-term gradual changes in average temperatures, now look worryingly complacent. The latest projections, published in Environmental Research Letters in 2019, now show that even Canada � once the great hope of future food production � will see production declines of wheat, canola and maize once global temperatures pass 2.5�C.

A glimpse of this future came with the European heatwave of 2003, which would be considered a normal to cool summer in the three-degree world. According to a subsequent analysis, during that scorching summer �Italy experienced a record drop in maize yields of 36% from a year earlier, whereas in France maize and fodder production fell by 30%, fruit harvests declined by 25%, and wheat harvests (which had nearly reached maturity by the time the heat set in) declined by 21%.� While it is conceivable that European farmers might adapt by growing substitute crops � perhaps swapping maize for pineapples or palm oil in the second half of this century � it is difficult to imagine how the world as a whole can make up for the loss of vast areas of arable land currently devoted to growing humanity�s most vital food crops.

In the three-degree world, therefore, we face drastic harvest losses at the same time as the global human population is projected to rise to 10 billion. To feed these extra mouths, and to do so at the same time as reducing poverty, requires doubling food production globally by mid-century. Instead, in a three-degree scenario we could see food production cut by half. We do not have to � indeed we should not � passively accept this fate, which is nothing less than a recipe for global mass starvation. First and foremost, we must take any and all measures to keep global temperatures from ever reaching the three-degree level. At the same time, crop breeding can increase drought tolerance and perhaps improve the ability of major food plants to withstand heat, using new genetic techniques where necessary. We will also have to shift major areas of crop production north, and substitute different kinds of food crops as climate zones move. There are some important fixes necessary to secure the world�s food supply, which include protecting soils, eliminating biofuels, reducing food waste and encouraging more plant-based diets. Much more food, especially proteins, will also need to be produced in thermally controlled artificial environments. And we must beef up the World Food Programme to ensure that the world shares fairly the food it can produce, helping buffer harvest failures in one place with aid from another.

If these efforts fail, the scene is set for a new era of escalating food commodity price shocks as we tip from relative global sufficiency into increasingly desperate scarcity with rising world temperatures. Again, we can look to recent history for a glimpse of what this might mean. Between 2006 and 2008 food and energy prices soared, increasing poverty rates by 3�5% globally � in effect plunging 100 million people back into poverty. Rice prices shot up by 255%, while wheat and maize costs rose by 80�90%. Increased scarcity fuelled violent street protests as prices soared in local markets, hitting the urban poor hardest of all. Food riots swept Africa, affecting fifteen countries from Morocco and Egypt in the north, to Senegal and Burkina Faso in the west, Mozambique and Zimbabwe in the south, and Ethiopia and Somalia in the east. Droughts and food-price rises were also associated with the 2010�11 Arab Spring revolts, and subsequent wars and crackdowns in the Middle East and North Africa.

In my view, worldwide food shortages are the most likely trigger of large-scale civilisational collapse in a three-degree world. A burgeoning global population facing a simultaneous crash in global food supplies, regional conflicts and the resulting failed states means millions of people fleeing from famine and war. They will join those pushed out of their homes by the direct impacts of drought and extreme heat, which will be threatening the overall habitability of many of these same countries. The subsequent outflows of refugees will have predictable consequences, seen to an extent during the Syrian civil war, where millions of people seeking safety and shelter triggered anti-immigrant sentiment in destination countries in Europe, leading to the greatest resurgence of ugly far-right politics since the Second World War.

The Syrian conflict gives a glimpse of what lies ahead, but instead of being limited to a single region, entire continents will be falling into chaos: Africa first, but South and West Asia too, with even the Americas succumbing sooner or later. Forget survivalist fantasies. Nowhere will be �safe� � countries that still grow enough food might find themselves ruled by latter-day eco-fascists, as unscrupulous politicians stir up hate and division in order to cement their power behind rigidly policed national boundaries. Recent events have demonstrated the fragility of modern liberal notions of freedom, democracy and international solidarity. A few years ago I�d have confidently predicted that people would not stand idly by as millions elsewhere died from famine. Now I am not so sure.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:34

Vox Nihili: May 28, 2008

Griz posted:

I looked at craigslist and the cheapest EVs here are a 10 year old Leaf for $12k and an 8 year old one for $13k

Yeah the used car market is dogshit right now

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:35

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

[opening my wallet and releasing a single trapped fly]

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:43

biceps crimes: Apr 12, 2008

heavily considered moving places earlier in the year but the problem is that all of the places i considered are still on earth

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:45

Pryor on Fire: May 14, 2013; they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

There were a couple years when the Leaf was unsellable, my friend bought one new for $13k in like 2015. Still running fine just uses the 110v outlet.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:46

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

Why would he buy a leaf for $13k? No cool ones that he could find on the ground outside?

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:52

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

biceps crimes posted:

heavily considered moving places earlier in the year but the problem is that all of the places i considered are still on earth

# ? Jul 29, 2022 04:57

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

God Hole posted:

I think i mentioned this before but my high school's football team kept getting MRSA in their frequent turf burns from the artificial field. i'm talking at least 5-10 cases that i knew of while i was attending

uhh actually I think you'll find that the MWHSWM community is at greatest risk of getting MRSA. i doubt they even tested those footballers unless they had frequent anonymous gay sex. which i mean they are footballers so

wait this isn't the covid/monkeypox/marburg/polio/outback steakhouse thread

# ? Jul 29, 2022 05:19

Lpzie: Nov 20, 2006

# ? Jul 29, 2022 05:37

The Voice of Labor: Apr 8, 2020

# ? Jul 29, 2022 05:54

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

i'm the protagonist of this movie so i will survive the collapse of industrial civilization and the earth's biosphere

cya suckers

:c00l:

# ? Jul 29, 2022 05:59

Slow News Day: Jul 4, 2007

Hubbert posted:

i'm the protagonist of this movie so i will survive the collapse of industrial civilization and the earth's biosphere

cya suckers

https://mobile.twitter.com/dril/status/757914951868485632

# ? Jul 29, 2022 10:30

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

in addition to the charging the leaf was kinda iffy in the beginning, no active or passive cooling meant the batteries lost a fair bit of rabge from the posts i�ve read

# ? Jul 29, 2022 11:19

God Hole: Mar 2, 2016

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-monarch-garden-chopped-1.6531311

quote:

She's been growing a garden for monarch butterflies for 2 decades. So why did the city mow it down?

Susan McKee given $125 bylaw ticket around the time international scientists listed monarchs as endangered

Susan McKee returned from her summer vacation earlier this month only to discover that her naturalized pollinator garden � once filled with endangered monarch butterflies and bees � was gone.

"It's all chopped down. Everything's just chopped to the ground," said McKee, who has lived in her Briscoe Street West home in London, Ont., for nearly 20 years.

McKee said neighbours told her they saw city staff cut down the plants with weed wackers after someone had filed a complaint.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 12:53

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

God Hole posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-monarch-garden-chopped-1.6531311

motherfuckers

# ? Jul 29, 2022 13:03

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

I guess she should�ve just had a nice green laaawwwwwn

# ? Jul 29, 2022 13:06

lil poopendorfer: Nov 13, 2014; by the sex ghost

Oxxidation posted:

I guess she should�ve just had a nice green laaawwwwwn

she needed the loving castle doctrine to defend herself against government tyrants

# ? Jul 29, 2022 13:15

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

lol home sweet home

some pissy neighbour had it in for her because there�s a woman on my street that does the same thing and her front lawn is just mostly three-foot tall milkweed plants lol

obviously still the whole thing is ridiculous

# ? Jul 29, 2022 13:42

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

mediaphage posted:

lol home sweet home

some pissy neighbour had it in for her because there�s a woman on my street that does the same thing and her front lawn is just mostly three-foot tall milkweed plants lol

obviously still the whole thing is ridiculous

are you in london?

didn't this happen to someone else in a nearby city recently?

# ? Jul 29, 2022 14:00

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

God Hole posted:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-monarch-garden-chopped-1.6531311

# ? Jul 29, 2022 14:21

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Cold on a Cob posted:

are you in london?

didn't this happen to someone else in a nearby city recently?

yeah

it may be the same person, the story came out a few days ago

there was also some news pre and right at the start of the pandemic about a woman here refusing to move to a property across her street for a transpo project even though council offered to move her house lol

her �garden� though wasn�t like a big nature garden or anything

# ? Jul 29, 2022 14:25

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Cold on a Cob posted:

are you in london?

didn't this happen to someone else in a nearby city recently?

There was that thing about a local council mowing a roundabout (which had orchids) that upset a kid. I think that happened in London. Not sure if that was posted here though, I might have dreamt it

E: god dammit stop having multiple Londons, it loving confuses me :argh:

# ? Jul 29, 2022 14:41

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

Microplastics posted:

There was that thing about a local council mowing a roundabout (which had orchids) that upset a kid. I think that happened in London. Not sure if that was posted here though, I might have dreamt it

E: god dammit stop having multiple Londons, it loving confuses me

we used to have a Berlin too until some rear end in a top hat ruined german-inspired names for everyone :argh:

e: this is what i was remembering: https://globalnews.ca/news/8909965/smiths-falls-ont-couple-naturalized-yard/

but i also found this when i was looking for it: https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/windsor-neighbours-call-city-s-rules-prohibiting-plants-and-stones-near-sidewalk-archaic-1.6005088

loving hell just let people grow plants instead of grass already

Cold on a Cob has issued a correction as of 14:56 on Jul 29, 2022

# ? Jul 29, 2022 14:53

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Cold on a Cob posted:

we used to have a Berlin too until some rear end in a top hat ruined german-inspired names for everyone

Reminds me of driving through Palestine, Arkansas and seeing a big Israeli flag in the middle of town.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 14:55

TeenageArchipelago: Jul 23, 2013

And you all thought that lake Mead was going to dry up :smug:

https://nypost.com/2022/07/29/las-vegas-flooding-multiple-casinos-entire-strip-airport-under-water-amid-storm/

# ? Jul 29, 2022 15:43

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

TeenageArchipelago posted:

And you all thought that lake Mead was going to dry up

https://nypost.com/2022/07/29/las-vegas-flooding-multiple-casinos-entire-strip-airport-under-water-amid-storm/

rip to the people who live in the storm sewer tunnels

# ? Jul 29, 2022 15:51

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

so that�s st louis, vegas, and most of kentucky that have returned to Mother Ocean in the last two weeks

# ? Jul 29, 2022 15:55

Ferdinand Bardamu: Apr 30, 2013

Oxxidation posted:

so that�s st louis, vegas, and most of kentucky that have returned to Mother Ocean in the last two weeks

the wastelands, so nobody really cares.

# ? Jul 29, 2022 15:56

Tempora Mutantur: Feb 22, 2005

Trabisnikof posted:

rip to the people who live in the storm sewer tunnels

jesus loving christ I forgot about that/them, was estimated at 1000 people *in 2019*

the monsoon rain is sudden and super massive, too :negative:

what a country

# ? Jul 29, 2022 15:58

Pryor on Fire: May 14, 2013; they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

I can't stop laughing at how terrible the leaders are everywhere
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1553036408809525248

# ? Jul 29, 2022 16:16

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# ? May 25, 2024 08:26

Lackmaster: Mar 1, 2011

TeenageArchipelago posted:

And you all thought that lake Mead was going to dry up

https://nypost.com/2022/07/29/las-vegas-flooding-multiple-casinos-entire-strip-airport-under-water-amid-storm/

# ? Jul 29, 2022 17:13

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