andromache posted:

Also we need to find a new terrible game to play together. Life is Feudal was terrible and fun. New World with delta came close but it only took us a month to realize how bad that was.

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

why do the people who think the directorate is still being run or is friendly to the mittani think that banning him would do anything in the first place?

it's such a weird hill to die on

it's as if being in the in game corporation means anything at all

it's impossible to please these people

Gwailar posted:

The moral posturing in this thread is tiresome.
It strikes me as warmed- over religious fundamentalism by a bunch of presumably irreligious folks.

Stop LARPing paladins on an Internet forum.

andromache posted:

You got me. There was a guy who exposed his ejaculated penis on an Internet forum without consent to a bunch of people. Probably should have ran that up through UCMJ as I believe he was still in the Navy at the time.

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Just thinking how its really unique how people play this MMO in so many different ways. A lot of people play it just as a spaceship shooting Number Go Up mmo but some people apparently actually roleplay based on the ingame lore stuff. You can obviously play it as a pure econ simulator/trading game and float around in big slow space trucks. You can roleplay as a pirate or mercenaries and pick out an area of space to be a dick in. You have the Mittani and other people who tried to make it a political thing and roleplay speeches and stuff like that. And other people play it as like a bureaucracy or corporation simulator, mainly focused on increasing output (people logging in), tracking metrics and other weird middle manager personality poo poo like the 'I was on vacation last week and look what I come back into' quote a few pages ago.

Anyways, it sucks the people running the game obviously have little interest beyond milking their remaining customers until it either dies outright or they find a way to move them into something they like more (first person shooters apparently). But it's neat that there is a MMO environment that accidentally mashed up all the * Simulator games out there.

lollontee posted:

thanks for your opinion, j4g. now gently caress off

Gwailar posted:

I am a Stupid Newbie.

According to "the rules," I should lurk before I post.
Thus, I am lurking. I have lurked my way to this Post.

According to "the rules," before I reply, I should ask myself the following question: "Does my reply offer any significant advice or help contribute to the conversation in any fashion?"
Having asked myself that question, I once again answer in the affirmative.

My significant advice to you, Alexandre DeLarge, is still:
Shut up, Idiot.

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

bigab Am0k is recruiting

Zodium posted:

are you pushing the people who can ban Alex to do so?

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

why do the people who think the directorate is still being run or is friendly to the mittani think that banning him would do anything in the first place?

andromache posted:

It was bullet 1 in the 4 point list I posted when I was asked by the directorate what the hell ya’ll even wanted at this point.

I think someone had a 4 point list a few pages back that was pretty close to what I sent over. Can’t remember the exact verbiage but it was something like ban mittens, apologize, unban whistleblowers, and publicly flay attack helicopters and blm are terrorists people.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I mean, it's pretty easy. In Asher's first meeting with all of the alliance corp directors and sub-directors he should simply say "in seven days I'm kicking Mittani from this alliance, banning him from services and blacklisting him. If any of you or your members have an issue with that, you know where the door is. Oh and anyone that wailed and gnashed about a cancel culture woke mob has seven days to get out as well"

Gwailar posted:

The moral posturing in this thread is tiresome.
It strikes me as warmed- over religious fundamentalism by a bunch of presumably irreligious folks.

Stop LARPing paladins on an Internet forum.

Aedaxus posted:

No. I thank you for pointing it out. We all sometimes let things go by without action. Together, as a community, we can make it better. I remain in GSF and will work to make it become the best place to be. Some have moved out to goosefleet which from what I hear has renewed their enjoyment. And they deserve to have a good time, look at all the creativity, it's awesome. I do hope one day they rejoin us, but for that , we need to be good (or goon?) enough. Like in the movie "On deadly Ground", one could ask "What does it take for a human to change?" well, "It takes time". Time and experience is required. Talking to people and informing people takes a lot of effort. And yes, this is certainly not the only or the best or worst way. But it's my way, how I believe I get the best results. I want to enjoy being with my friends in EVE Online, and that will take an effort, for some a bigger one than others. Keep on keeping on. And if you need a break from GSF, you have a warm nest in goosefleet. And I am sure, one day we will be united again, one way or another.

andromache posted:

If someone got banned and wants to give GSF a try again they can reach out to our new exec either via PM on these forums, or I can get you hooked up with him on discord. GSF is back to shooting spaceships and there’s no appetite for litigating it over.

Potato Salad posted:

querns was deadass right about people just having fun in w space playing a video game with people who uh *squints* have a record of going to the mat for any of their friends who get hurt by someone else.

Like, the last time Deltas threw down for one of their own, they Attacked and Dethroned the closest thing to God this dumb game has seen so far, so I retract my opinion about posting killmails itt. Keep em coming

andromache posted:

Like who? You guys ran off everyone of note in GSF other than like me, bill, and occasionally a wild xttz appearance. Seems like Asher’s play is to just do poo poo better and get back to playing eve. Let his actions speak for themselves and if that’s of interest to people ITT they can give it a try.

If someone got banned and wants to give GSF a try again they can reach out to our new exec either via PM on these forums, or I can get you hooked up with him on discord. GSF is back to shooting spaceships and there’s no appetite for litigating it over.

Prop Wash posted:

Over the past two weeks I've witnessed Dozer help out newbies (like, actual eve newbies) on several different occasions. He's contributed a lot of organizational knowledge and on one occasion walked a newbie through finding us through two wormholes and (somehow) their Selected Items window getting turned off. You, meanwhile, have posted here about how we need to get over toxic behavior and Get Back To Playing The Game.

So yeah, he can give you a lecture, and you should gently caress off.

andromache posted:

You got me. There was a guy who exposed his ejaculated penis on an Internet forum without consent to a bunch of people. Probably should have ran that up through UCMJ as I believe he was still in the Navy at the time.

You are the absolute last person on this earth who can give me a lecture on anything, dickhead, and the fact that you are the Gatekeeper of Gooniness for 2022 SA is the most lol, lmao thing in this thread.

Bigbillthaboss posted:

ded posted:

Prop Wash posted:

You know it’s funny because I’ve actually been having some fun playing eve online! The secret I found was to play with a smaller group of nice, welcoming people instead of the toxic mess that is modern-day Goonswarm. Would definitely recommend you try it out

andromache posted:

It was bullet 1 in the 4 point list I posted when I was asked by the directorate what the hell ya’ll even wanted at this point.

I think someone had a 4 point list a few pages back that was pretty close to what I sent over. Can’t remember the exact verbiage but it was something like ban mittens, apologize, unban whistleblowers, and publicly flay attack helicopters and blm are terrorists people.

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Just thinking how its really unique how people play this MMO in so many different ways. A lot of people play it just as a spaceship shooting Number Go Up mmo but some people apparently actually roleplay based on the ingame lore stuff. You can obviously play it as a pure econ simulator/trading game and float around in big slow space trucks. You can roleplay as a pirate or mercenaries and pick out an area of space to be a dick in. You have the Mittani and other people who tried to make it a political thing and roleplay speeches and stuff like that. And other people play it as like a bureaucracy or corporation simulator, mainly focused on increasing output (people logging in), tracking metrics and other weird middle manager personality poo poo like the 'I was on vacation last week and look what I come back into' quote a few pages ago.

Anyways, it sucks the people running the game obviously have little interest beyond milking their remaining customers until it either dies outright or they find a way to move them into something they like more (first person shooters apparently). But it's neat that there is a MMO environment that accidentally mashed up all the * Simulator games out there.

Good Dumplings posted:

gently caress off with your disingenuous bullshit tia

Gwailar posted:

The moral posturing in this thread is tiresome.
It strikes me as warmed- over religious fundamentalism by a bunch of presumably irreligious folks.

Stop LARPing paladins on an Internet forum.

andromache posted:

It was bullet 1 in the 4 point list I posted when I was asked by the directorate what the hell ya’ll even wanted at this point.

I think someone had a 4 point list a few pages back that was pretty close to what I sent over. Can’t remember the exact verbiage but it was something like ban mittens, apologize, unban whistleblowers, and publicly flay attack helicopters and blm are terrorists people.

andromache posted:

Like who? You guys ran off everyone of note in GSF other than like me, bill, and occasionally a wild xttz appearance. Seems like Asher’s play is to just do poo poo better and get back to playing eve. Let his actions speak for themselves and if that’s of interest to people ITT they can give it a try.

If someone got banned and wants to give GSF a try again they can reach out to our new exec either via PM on these forums, or I can get you hooked up with him on discord. GSF is back to shooting spaceships and there’s no appetite for litigating it over.

Rust Martialis posted:

I will say that while I want Alex banned, one thing I'm not actually worried about is him ninja-ing his way back into alliance leader without a fight from the new directorate. I doubt any membercorp CEOs want him back at this stage. And line member opinion is worth ... what, exactly, ever?

As to a blanket pardon, "not happening" is my understanding, but individuals can request it. But I don't see why you would want unbanned anyhow, posters here seem pretty determined to make a new start?

Who of you would go back anyhow, given the general opinion I see here that the new leaders are idiots and Alex's patsies who are circling the wagons and perpetuating racism, sexism, etc?

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

yeah i mean they did 1

for 2, everyone i know stated that

for 3, i agree, but i'd also keep some of them kicked because they're insufferable people in general, has nothing to do with the sitch (situation, for short)

4 nah, you got scammers, robbers, theives, people who made death threats, the guy who leaked mittani's address, etc, those people can stay banned

Frank Frank posted:

Lol how many fedoras do you own? I bet it’s more than one.

Good Dumplings posted:

Gwailar posted:

I went with the bowler instead.

Seriously, though. This thread (the last thread, actually) was useful at one point. It seems to me to have lost that usefulness. The crusaders seem unwilling to acknowledge that any progress has been made at all.

Given the changes that have happened which not so long ago seemed inconceivable, that strikes me as a sign of either bad faith or a fundamentalist approach to conflict resolution.

causticBeet posted:

FWIW eve SA threads haven’t been useful since like 2015 so it’s not like this drama is any departure from the norm. What even is a useful thread? Aren’t most people here in the “well u see it is actually bad to try to be good at eve” bucket

andromache posted:

That’s the part that I take a bit of offense to with Aldani’s “I told literally every director” bit.

Because no you loving didn’t. I’m vaguely aware of who she was as being in charge of like sirenswarm and social groups in general, but the claims in her reddit post were the first I’d heard of them.

andromache posted:

Yes, by asking people to be accurate in their claims I’m defending my pals.

Must be very nice to live in your kindergarten crayola world. You are making this post from your tower in Atlantis aka Bolivia aren’t you.

andromache posted:

How is that anything like what I said. Not choosing to go further in a Reddit thread because the OP was going for the sensational emotional splash instead of factual accuracy is always the right call for media consumption. - social or traditional. Don’t fall for the clickbait.

andromache posted:

Yogizh sent some dumbass corpmails like a year ago. Some like identify as an attack helicopter poo poo and some alt right YouTube link.

But because he wasn’t publicly executed for it, people keep hanging onto it. I have no idea if he was privately disciplined for it or not, but fairly certain the policy isn’t to discuss that poo poo publicly anyway.

andromache posted:

It’s my imperium persona but it’s very much not my delta persona as most people in this thread will agree. I inherited reimbursement from Khefron and when initially hired I resolved to be a kinder, gentler, customer focused director than how Khefron ran the org.

I promptly realized Khefron was right, goons are loving terrible, and developed some very spiky thorns to dissuade anyone from bothering me unless they absolutely had their ducks in a loving row.

andromache posted:

I mostly just want to post on this thread without dozer leaping out of the trunk like That Scene from The Hangover (appropriate on several levels).

I ignored his rear end for two weeks but if he wants to be a bitter ex because someone’s not interested in carrying water for him anymore what am I supposed to do? Hit the report button and whine to Kaysette?

causticBeet posted:

having an empty ZKB isn’t a questionable sign for a wormhole group?

causticBeet posted:

FWIW eve SA threads haven’t been useful since like 2015 so it’s not like this drama is any departure from the norm. What even is a useful thread? Aren’t most people here in the “well u see it is actually bad to try to be good at eve” bucket. Like ullerm could come in and post some dope small gang fits for the people who think having an empty ZKB isn’t a questionable sign for a wormhole group?

I say this not to take a shot at goosefleet, and fully with the understanding that everyone’s still getting situated and moved in and that that takes time, but if it still looks like that in a month that’s no bueno.

Gwailar posted:

I went with the bowler instead.

Seriously, though. This thread (the last thread, actually) was useful at one point. It seems to me to have lost that usefulness. The crusaders seem unwilling to acknowledge that any progress has been made at all.

Given the changes that have happened which not so long ago seemed inconceivable, that strikes me as a sign of either bad faith or a fundamentalist approach to conflict resolution.

corgski posted:

I see 58 killmails on our internal dashboard and it's only been up a week.

dragonshardz posted:

Our ZKB isn't empty, hth

Prop Wash posted:

Over the past two weeks I've witnessed Dozer help out newbies (like, actual eve newbies) on several different occasions.

Voyager I posted:

We need Ullerm to come back so the thread can have one categorically good poster.

ullerrm posted:

Thread can’t be redeemed, OP. Just unbookmark it and take your memories of the good times with you.

(I’m back to winning eve, but the Goosefleet folks seem cool, and I strongly suggest they make a separate thread so that the “is illum actually a bad thing, and can/should GSF redeem itself” prattle can be contained to this damned place.)

corgski posted:

Of course he's a loving truck sunglasses brand of dumbass