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Main Paineframe posted:however, his lawyers accidentally sent a backup of his phone to the plaintiff lawyers, who now have all of his texts and emails over the last couple of years and the legal right to use them however they like. they have stated that they will be going through all of those emails and texts looking for things to send to journalists and criminal investigators My understanding is that Jones' lawyers were also contacted by the opposing lawyers after sending the information, basically saying "uhh did you mean to send this to us, is this this protected information?" and instead of putting the cat back in the bag (which seemed to be possible here)...his lawyers either did nothing or told them they could have it? Its one thing to accidentally forward something to the worst possible person on your email contacts, but to also not take it back when given the chance? If that's all true, I cant wrap my head around the reasoning here unless it was truly incompetence the entire way through.
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buglord posted:My understanding is that Jones' lawyers were also contacted by the opposing lawyers after sending the information, basically saying "uhh did you mean to send this to us, is this this protected information?" and instead of putting the cat back in the bag (which seemed to be possible here)...his lawyers either did nothing or told them they could have it? They were purposefully ignoring the plaintiffs so whenever they got a plaintiffs email they ignored it.
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If I'm Jones' CT counsel I am petitioning the court with motions to suppress every five minutes right now and claiming privilege. It probably won't work but you really have to make an attempt if you're going to be an effective advocate.
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PhazonLink posted:the dead horse debate of puppetmaster conman VS true believer flavoraid drinker doesnt matter because both make the world a worse place. Well yeah but we're not allowed to actually wish death upon him here so buglord posted:My understanding is that Jones' lawyers were also contacted by the opposing lawyers after sending the information, basically saying "uhh did you mean to send this to us, is this this protected information?" and instead of putting the cat back in the bag (which seemed to be possible here)...his lawyers either did nothing or told them they could have it? Yep, you got it. They just didn't respond at all so the Plaintiff's lawyers just waited the required 10 days and then I assume they popped an enormous bottle of champagne because this is quite possibly one of the largest legal blunders in history. I honestly didn't believe the Plaintiff's lawyers asked whether it was privileged or not because I assumed that would instantly be a huge red flag and some associate responsible for checking emails would have jumped on it and run it up the chain but lol. Also a couple actual lawyers in here have made noises to the effect that ignoring opposing counsel's emails isn't unheard of in cases where the lawyers hate each other. Frank Frank fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 4, 2022 |
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Frank Frank posted:Does he though? I've never been 100% sure about that. I guess we'll find out when the contents of that phone are made public. Can I sue Alex Jones and get a copy of the phone? How does that access work?
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Can I sue Alex Jones and get a copy of the phone? How does that access work? No. The owner of the digital copy is the Plaintiff's lawyer team at the moment. They do NOT like Jones though and are likely to give it to someone who will just leak the whole goddamn thing here in short order as soon as their case is over (unless it would jeopardize something super serious like J6 stuff I would imagine). Soon we'll likely know everything from what drugs Jones snorts to what sort of porn he likes. Yikesaroo. E: I suppose they also might not leak it since there will likely be an appeal and doing something like that might sway a jury if they seemed too giddy/willing to do it. If I had to guess it'll probably be leaked through some back channel assuming there aren't serious smoking guns with criminal implications inside.
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Frank Frank posted:No. The owner of the digital copy is the Plaintiff's lawyer team at the moment. They do NOT like Jones though and are likely to give it to someone who will just leak the whole goddamn thing here in short order as soon as their case is over (unless it would jeopardize something super serious like J6 stuff I would imagine). Soon we'll likely know everything from what drugs Jones snorts to what sort of porn he likes. They don't really need to leak it. Just give it to the 1/6 committee, and one of their younger interns will leak it. In a searchable form. Indexed nicely. And with the appropriate content warnings.
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It's surreal that an actual courtroom drama played out in a courtroom. I've watched a ton of court proceedings and I've literally never seen a "gotcha" like that. I'd love to know from actual lawyers if they've ever witnessed anything like this before.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNFgqd8_78I Is the above video (an abridged 'top moments of the case' done by law&crime Network) actually legit? because, this feels like satire.... What loving timeline am I living in?!?!?!?!11?1?1one
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sweet geek swag posted:Here's a legal question, is this evidence even admissible in the CT case? Presumably CT has its own rules for attorney/client privilege, and would those rules recognize this situation as a waiving of said privilege? You have to divide the pot of stuff on that phone into two buckets. There's a bucket of communications between Alex Jones and his lawyer's. Those texts, audios, etc. are privileged material. An email from Jones to his lawyer saying "I deliberately did this, please help me beat it" would likely be inadmissible. The privilege belongs to the person, not the attorney, so his lawyer can't waive it through incompetence. It's embarrassing, and may reveal things like trial strategy, but they probably can't be used against him. The second bucket which is pretty much everything else including communications with employees, friends, politicians (fingers crossed) is not subject to the privilege and should have been turned over months ago. Those are fair game and are going to be glorious.
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bigperm posted:https://twitter.com/browtweaten/status/1555013626842546178?s=21&t=gRzGdTp0qXR1sVbDTYdqvg lmao
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Raxkor posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNFgqd8_78I Yeah it's real. poo poo was wild man
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Hey all, this thread jumped like sixty pages since I read yesterday. What all ha- oh, poo poo lol that's pretty damned funny.
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1554975019037593601?s=20&t=hlIh15y3KvPyHBJx5AtnFQ You know that judge has already already been told that Alex left the courtroom today and went right to calling into a show to call her a "whack job". They gotta meet up tomorrow. poo poo is awkward.
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alex jones mood right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-T-xh1qvLA
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Borscht posted:Guys, my heart is so full of hope and joy right now. Love y'all. same, love you too
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I think we're going to get the jury back in the morning and we'll know tomorrow!
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Raxkor posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNFgqd8_78I You know what’s really great about this video? This is yesterdays moments. Every one of those is absolutely normal and boring compared to what happened today.
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Confusedslight posted:Is there a time limit set to the jury on how long they can deliberate for? Nope. However they will probably be done tomorrow before lunch.
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Frank Frank posted:It's surreal that an actual courtroom drama played out in a courtroom. I've watched a ton of court proceedings and I've literally never seen a "gotcha" like that. Not a lawyer, but I did work in litigation support/ediscovery, and when I worked at a law firm we had an IP case where somebody was accused of stealing proprietary information from his old company. We got his Outlook profile from the plaintiff, loaded it up, and... literally the first thing that comes up is an email sent to his personal address with all the pertinent documents/data attached to it. I pretty much turned to the attorneys and paralegals and said "Welp, there ya go." I think the case was literally settled the next day.
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I hope somehow there are texts from Trump on there too about Jan 6. I think I would die of laughter if this bumbling lawyer and Alex Jones end up being what takes the orange man down
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So, does the judge decide if the case goes from civil to criminal now? Or does he and his lawyers have to go to trial separately for perjury and concealing incriminating evidence?
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If it isn't done tomorrow before lunch that means there are 2+ people on the jury who are real big jerksCodependent Poster posted:I hope somehow there are texts from Trump on there too about Jan 6. I think it's very very unlikely. Trump pretty much forgot Jones existed as soon as he got elected.
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Lawlicaust posted:You know what’s really great about this video? This is yesterdays moments. Every one of those is absolutely normal and boring compared to what happened today. i have no idea how they could get today down to a measly 7
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Philthy posted:So, does the judge decide if the case goes from civil to criminal now? Or does he and his lawyers have to go to trial separately for perjury and concealing incriminating evidence? The judge can refer anything she sees as a violation of a crime to the local prosecutors. Whether Jones actually gets charged with perjury or not is up in the air. You better believe sanctions are coming regardless.
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Can alex's lawyer go 5 seconds without creating a titanic catastrophic legal error? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91eIDu6Aw-8
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Tree Dude posted:If it isn't done tomorrow before lunch that means there are 2+ people on the jury who are real big jerks It is however very likely that the oath keepers and proud boys were using alex as their PR system and when he got a text "we talked directly to rudy and meadows and hawley and we're going to do the crime in an hour" he reacted with a thumbs up emoji and then went directly on his show and "predicted" things
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xarph posted:It is however very likely that the oath keepers and proud boys were using alex as their PR system and when he got a text "we talked directly to rudy and meadows and hawley and we're going to do the crime in an hour" he reacted with a thumbs up emoji and then went directly on his show and "predicted" things oh yeah I'd sign off on that being a very good possibility
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I haven't felt this close to random people since the last mulitple-murder case!
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Catastrophe posted:HOLY CRAP! Alex Jones is 48! Alex Jones is 6 months younger than me and that’s tripping me out
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Catastrophe posted:HOLY CRAP! Alex Jones is 48! 
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My father's younger brother is obsessed with this crap. I stayed with him in Yuma back in 2014 for a few weeks (115 degrees) and he did not recover from that. He couldn't remember Walmart or Costco and that was like two days ago to visit my folks!
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Inceltown posted:Alex Jonestown Massacre Goddamn.
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Inceltown posted:Alex Jonestown Massacre lol KitConstantine posted:https://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/1555004116581158913?t=XGaa_H1rslmIbiGkVIcdew&s=19 lol 
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