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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

The Voice of Labor posted:

my new form of mutual aid will be leaving mushroom spawn at those little free libraries

löl

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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
me, i just leave books, but hey. seems like all of us have some growing up to do.

Nektu
Jul 4, 2007

FUKKEN FUUUUUUCK
Cybernetic Crumb
Earth is just trying to buck us off at this point, isn’t it?

Janitor Ludwich IV
Jan 25, 2019

by vyelkin
Is it a hot take to like the original mad Max the most or is that the standard opinion? I found that one way more unnerving than any of the others

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

Janitor Ludwich IV posted:

Is it a hot take to like the original mad Max the most or is that the standard opinion? I found that one way more unnerving than any of the others

I've only seen the first and the second but I kind of consider them to be in the same vein as alien/aliens, or terminator/terminator 2. Both absolutely fantastic but also so different you can't really directly compare them.

Alamani57
Dec 15, 2010


They won't be sending us their best, folks. Build the wall.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Nektu posted:

Earth is just trying to buck us off at this point, isn’t it?
mixed with the land subsidence from aquifer collapse it seems like conservation of angular momentum tbh

like a figure skater spinning with arms outstretched, then faster as they bring their arms in, clutching their stomach in pain

Alamani57
Dec 15, 2010

Who wants these climate migrants (Westerners) in their back yard? Destroying the economy, spiking inflation, stressing our energy and water grids. We must think of ourselves before we think of others. The world is tough and it is unfair but it is not our duty to bear the burdens of those who have been met with misfortune. We must create a security force to prevent these people from destabilizing our civilization and if these people get to our territory we must establish 'migration facilities' to 'concentrate' them as we do not know what type of diseases these people may carry.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Janitor Ludwich IV posted:

Is it a hot take to like the original mad Max the most or is that the standard opinion? I found that one way more unnerving than any of the others

It's not my favourite, but the original has some legit insane stuntwork in it.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Hubbert posted:

im already there

also

quote:

The impact of global warming and other ecological disruptions build slowly over time, and governments and ordinary citizens alike have every reason to hold things together as long as possible.

He underestimated feedback loops.
And I think covid clearly showed us the only thing governments and citizens try to hold together, is the illusionary capitalist economy, which they'll cling to even to the detriment of preventing real ecological disruptions.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
Radio Ecoshock podcast has been rereleasing old episodes, and this weeks' was one from COP24 which is an interview of Greta Thunberg. I had to turn it off after 15 minutes due to the very uncomfortable knowledge that nothing at all has been achieved since then to make things any better.

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020
Lol at the turn of the century optimism that we are now in the future and that we are on the right track and everything's going to ok.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

i feel like every word on that needs an asterisk

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


US population in 1949: 149,188,130

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Rectal Death Adept posted:

i feel like every word on that needs an asterisk

https://twitter.com/SMiltonburger/status/1554898434297036800

That Spooky Witch
Jun 16, 2017

All hail the triune god

the u.s., tho, is an empire built on suffering, brutally and with horrific atrocity after horrific atrocity in stride of inflicting maximum suffering upon everyone everywhere for the sake of extracting profit, so i'm sure it'll be fine

sufferingpack as far as the eye can see

hold on, i'm getting word about the tendency of the rate of profit--

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Nektu posted:

Earth is just trying to buck us off at this point, isn’t it?

In these demon days, we're so cold inside
It's so hard for a good soul to survive
You can't even trust the air you breathe
'Cause Mother Earth wants us all to leave

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

US population in 1949: 149,188,130

Amount of plastic in the US in 1949: 0g

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Amount of plastic in the US in 1949: 0g

my sarcasm detector is broken today right

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

If I had any hope left in fixing the climate the amount of people I have run into in the past month that are furious about being "forced to eat bugs" would have eliminated it.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
You give people a gross nonsense solution to think about, rather than any real solutions that achieve anything, and then you create anti-climate change pushback. Since this is created in the RW by the media but not on the left it makes the opposing side more likely to support the nonsense solution and more likely to support future nonsense solutions lest they be lumped in with those narsty CHUDS. It's a simple effective strategy that they use for mostly everything these days.

On the left it's "we gotta do whatever it takes; I'm a faithful believer" on the right it's "why should I eat the bugs when jina and indiuh are still polluting". With the former you get nice compliance with non-solutions, happy citizens doing their part. With the latter you get correct observation (futility) leading to disavowal of the entirety of remediation efforts

End result is the rich stay rich, get richer, poor stay poor, get poorer, we all die. Eating the bugs is a personality quirk in your poverty to death or rich to death timeline.

It's not a climate change solution. Climate change solutions sound like: house the homeless so people don't die from weather, provide universal healthcare and preventative care so people don't die from weather/illness, stop waging war so that lands do not become barren and to curtail among the largest CO2 emissions, expropriate the ruling class so they can't take private jet flights and own 10 climate controlled homes, nationalize water, nationalize oil, nationalize power, nationalize farming.

You remediate climate change by eliminating class as a non-negotiable. Rather than talking about that we're talking about bugs.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
In any case even if we did the real solution right now today globally it wouldn't matter so try not to be bothered by these things eh?

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Perry Mason Jar posted:

You give people a gross nonsense solution to think about, rather than any real solutions that achieve anything, and then you create anti-climate change pushback. Since this is created in the RW by the media but not on the left it makes the opposing side more likely to support the nonsense solution and more likely to support future nonsense solutions lest they be lumped in with those narsty CHUDS. It's a simple effective strategy that they use for mostly everything these days.

On the left it's "we gotta do whatever it takes; I'm a faithful believer" on the right it's "why should I eat the bugs when jina and indiuh are still polluting". With the former you get nice compliance with non-solutions, happy citizens doing their part. With the latter you get correct observation (futility) leading to disavowal of the entirety of remediation efforts

End result is the rich stay rich, get richer, poor stay poor, get poorer, we all die. Eating the bugs is a personality quirk in your poverty to death or rich to death timeline.

It's not a climate change solution. Climate change solutions sound like: house the homeless so people don't die from weather, provide universal healthcare and preventative care so people don't die from weather/illness, stop waging war so that lands do not become barren and to curtail among the largest CO2 emissions, expropriate the ruling class so they can't take private jet flights and own 10 climate controlled homes, nationalize water, nationalize oil, nationalize power, nationalize farming.

You remediate climate change by eliminating class as a non-negotiable. Rather than talking about that we're talking about bugs.

that's right.

Perry Mason Jar posted:

In any case even if we did the real solution right now today globally it wouldn't matter so try not to be bothered by these things eh?

you mean it wouldn't matter to you. globally, it would matter a lot.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
I mean it wouldn't stop the climate from warming. Too much emissions lag, too much aerosol dimming to overcome, too many feedback loop genies to shove back in the bottle. It would let people live a little longer but they would still in all likelihood die prematurely from the inhospitability of the planet.

For what it's worth I'd participate in the revolution despite this correct observation.

That Spooky Witch
Jun 16, 2017

All hail the triune god

Perry Mason Jar posted:

house the homeless so people don't die from weather, provide universal healthcare and preventative care so people don't die from weather/illness, stop waging war so that lands do not become barren and to curtail among the largest CO2 emissions, expropriate the ruling class so they can't take private jet flights and own 10 climate controlled homes, nationalize water, nationalize oil, nationalize power, nationalize farming.

don't stop,

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

First sentence of the next paragraph covers anything I didn't mention specifically :)

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




these solutions sound like socialism guys, the number 1 source of hot air since industrial society began wont cool the earth. buy your paper straws like a good citizen

Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005

Real hurthling! posted:

these solutions sound like socialism guys, the number 1 source of hot air since industrial society began wont cool the earth. buy your paper straws like a good citizen

ok but I'm still gonna burn the plastic ones with all my trash, as the fire god intended

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Amount of plastic in the US in 1949: 0g

:wrong:

https://www.britannica.com/science/Bakelite

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Lmao "ban non-indigenous hunting" is a loving brain worm

Just ban hunting and stop going off about "traditional foodways" when the entire planet is suffused in microplastic and those foodways have been obliterated by five centuries of kapos and genocide

"Ban non-indigenous hunting" is a surefire way to make immediate, mortal enemies of the white rurals

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005


bakelite rules and is a good example of why the problem isn't plastics, its capitalist consumerism driving waste like single use plastics. i have a number of things that are 70+ years old, make of bakelite and still completely functional.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Mameluke posted:

Lmao "ban non-indigenous hunting" is a loving brain worm

Just ban hunting and stop going off about "traditional foodways" when the entire planet is suffused in microplastic and those foodways have been obliterated by five centuries of kapos and genocide

"Ban non-indigenous hunting" is a surefire way to make immediate, mortal enemies of the white rurals

Uh we can't ban hunting we use it for ecological conservation.

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
counterpoint deer are assholes

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




replaces all fauna with invasive out of control species > bans hunting> dies in a deer rutting accident under a pile of 70 horned up bucks

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Mameluke posted:

Lmao "ban non-indigenous hunting" is a loving brain worm

Just ban hunting and stop going off about "traditional foodways" when the entire planet is suffused in microplastic and those foodways have been obliterated by five centuries of kapos and genocide

"Ban non-indigenous hunting" is a surefire way to make immediate, mortal enemies of the white rurals

the context is post-global socialist revolution so luckily you dont have to worry about the white rurals as much anymore.














Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Real hurthling! posted:

replaces all fauna with invasive out of control species > bans hunting> dies in a deer rutting accident under a pile of 70 horned up bucks

reintroducing apex predators is a policy you can unlock too

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Speaking of invasive species, there's so many more lantern flies this year than last. Last year I thought they were kinda pretty but they're actually ugly as gently caress and I can't stand them. They barely fly they just tumble onto your leg and tumble off like looossers.

global tetrahedron
Jun 24, 2009

Mr. Sharps posted:

i got to see it last time it went off and yeah it was a decent day hike, probably six hours out and back total. water and snacks is all that was needed, the real threat was the wind was so strong at times that it could catch the lava plumes and end up raining scalding hot razor sharp chunks of rock all over the trails. the drone footage is definitely impressive but seeing something like that in person was pretty amazing and imo worth it

i saw it too, it was incredible. i could *hear* the lava splashing in the caldera. i'll never forget it

i think a lot of elderly folks and outright morons might have regretted the trek, though

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Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Perry Mason Jar posted:

Speaking of invasive species, there's so many more lantern flies this year than last. Last year I thought they were kinda pretty but they're actually ugly as gently caress and I can't stand them. They barely fly they just tumble onto your leg and tumble off like looossers.

yeah they are everywhere

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