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Call me a Swedish elitists but jury-rulings are stupid.
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5 Mil or one candy coated apology from Mr Jones will do  soft jury
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Remember that he has a long way to go with a whole lot of probably much worse poo poo coming his way than just this judgment
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Aug 4, 2022 22:25
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Sure hope the CT case can hit him harder
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Aug 4, 2022 22:25
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Main Paineframe posted:eh, it makes sense I had glanced somewhere the max for punitive is $750k. Maybe in this thread. Someone prove me wrong, please.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:25
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Lol just lol America fails again
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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One dollar per person who viewed jones’ lies about sandy hook is too much to ask. gently caress these jurors.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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lol worse than even i thought. "would you take a check today judge?" type money
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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welp
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1555300506779672577?s=20&t=hn7tMEy_Dsdze3ONVkXllQ 
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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Hopefully the phone stuff completely destroys Jones in the long run. Either that or he farts himself to death.
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Yeah, no idea how much better/worst the next few cases will go, but Alex has a lot more coming for him after this regardless.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:26
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Punitive are capped at 2x economic damages plus $750k, so if economic damages were $4m the max punitive could be would be $8.75 million if I'm understanding this right
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Aug 4, 2022 22:27
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Beefed Owl posted:Remember that he has a long way to go with a whole lot of probably much worse poo poo coming his way than just this judgment True, I guess it’s key to remember that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__VQX2Xn7tI I hope Neil and Scarlet have some loving peace. Just let them live a happy life.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:27
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That sucks but I feel like the phone drop has unlocked levels of schadenfreude only theorized before now.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:27
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Regarding damages, as per Dan Solomon: https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1555304329573273600
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Aug 4, 2022 22:28
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Morter posted:I had glanced somewhere the max for punitive is $750k. Maybe in this thread. Someone prove me wrong, please. Nope, that’s not wrong. Texas Civ Pro 41.008
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Aug 4, 2022 22:28
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Grand Fromage posted:gently caress I missed it what happened Judge says that Jones has to be the butler for all the plaintiff families
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Aug 4, 2022 22:28
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It was quite the ride while it lasted! Now we'll have to find some other drama to occupy our waking hours.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:28
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  TORT REFORM quote:The main difference between Connecticut and most of the states that allow punitive damages is the amount of the award. By limiting punitive damages in most cases to litigation expenses, Connecticut's punitive damages tend to be lower than other states especially those that view punitive damages as a method of punishing the wrongdoer. These states allow much higher punitive damages based on such considerations as the defendant's wealth and finances. As previously noted, some Connecticut statutes allow punitive damages for certain situations in the amount of two or three times the victim's actual damages. While this sometimes can be a sizeable amount where the victim's actual damages were significant, it does not compare to states that do not put similar limits on their punitive damages awards and instead focus on such things as punishment and the defendant's financial situation.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:29
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Plan R posted:It was quite the ride while it lasted! Now we'll have to find some other drama to occupy our waking hours. Oh good news, it's not done. Jones' is back on the stand tomorrow.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:29
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Be very very careful about taking any legal advice by third party goons
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https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1555304329573273600?t=6Vg0EZX2_fGk8fjJ8Vwy4w&s=19
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plus, sanctions. Maybe this is a death by a thousand cuts.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Yeah but punitive is capped at $750k so... it's not much that's why Texas capped punitive and not compensatory. because punitive is where the jury's supposed to bust out the "gently caress you" numbers if the jury knew punitive was capped, it'd be a different story. but that's exactly why they're not allowed to be told but the defense lawyer accidentally leaking Jones' phone data makes this so loving worth it. that's gonna sting a lot more than 5 million bucks
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Aug 4, 2022 22:29
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If we didn't get the phone out of this case I'd be legit mad. Of course I wanted as much money as possible for that family but hopefully something even bigger than that can come out of all this.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:30
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Plus not for nothing, I bet Jones is still going to loving whine about it. Somehow this is the greatest injustice
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Aug 4, 2022 22:30
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/dansolomon/status/1555304329573273600?t=6Vg0EZX2_fGk8fjJ8Vwy4w&s=19 Still gonna be capped at 750k no matter what they award.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:31
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another "ah! well. nevertheless," moment
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Aug 4, 2022 22:32
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Lawlicaust posted:Still gonna be capped at 750k no matter what they award. IANAL, but according to https://www.mcminnlaw.com/damage-caps-in-texas/ quote:In Texas, punitive damages may not exceed more than two times the amount of economic damages plus the amount equal to non-economic damages not to exceed $750,000 or $200,000, whichever is greater. For instance, if someone sues a corporation for a brain injury case after suffering an injury due to gross negligence and this person is awarded $1.5 million to cover economic loss and $3 million to cover non-economic loss, then the total amount possible for punitive damages would be $3,750,000 (two times $1.5 million plus the $750,000 maximum amount from non-economic damages). So if that's the case then the cap is at least 10 million.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:32
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Aug 4, 2022 22:32
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This is what I was talking about yesterday, that as lovely as Alex Jones is it's really hard to prove he defamed the plaintiffs. Reynal is a terrible lawyer, and AJ is a lunatic with a large mic but only one of those is punishable. At the end of the day there's not a ton of hard evidence (the psychological assessments are valuable but only with more concrete evidence and testimony) that Jones or his followers caused the emotional harm and financial/reputation damage. I don't know what the moral is to be gained here, sometimes lovely people get to do lovely things. I think if there's anything we can learn from this it's to be aware and try to catch people we know before they fall down that conspiracy theorist/truther rabbit hole.
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ashpanash posted:IANAL, but according to https://www.mcminnlaw.com/damage-caps-in-texas/ I need to see the breakdown of charges and which were economic or not but all pain and suffering or mental anguish is non-economic. Someone have a link to which charge was which #.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:33
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What I'm gathering so far from Bankston, random twitter users and this thread is that I have no idea what the final damages will be at all
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Aug 4, 2022 22:34
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This was going to be the case no matter what but the sheer amount of fundraising he can and has been doing for 5 years off this trial is worth way more to him than 5 million. This case arguably made him money.
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Aug 4, 2022 22:35
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gently caress, just feeling down now. Not holding out any hope from here on out that anything will happen to him. Lol and as soft as the jury was he’ll probably call them all child molesters.
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Main Paineframe posted:that's why Texas capped punitive and not compensatory. because punitive is where the jury's supposed to bust out the "gently caress you" numbers Alex is going to make more than 5 Million today alone. His fan base won't care about anything that came out during the trial. Honestly, AJ got away without any real consequences.
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