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ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Payndz posted:

And even then, you're not seeing them as they were broadcast. PAL DVD resolution is 576 lines, compared to over-the-air's 625. You need Blu-Ray for the full original experience.

Only 576 of the 625 "lines" are visible the rest are blanking lines (which by the 70s were no longer actually needed as TVs were able to redraw the screen faster so you see them being used for data like teletext, palplus, etc)
You can see the same thing with HDTV where analogue MUSE was described as 1125i but then the exact same size of footage was 1080i once it went digital

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Ms Boods
Mar 19, 2009

Did you ever wonder where the Romans got bread from? It wasn't from Waitrose!

ookiimarukochan posted:

Only 576 of the 625 "lines" are visible the rest are blanking lines (which by the 70s were no longer actually needed as TVs were able to redraw the screen faster so you see them being used for data like teletext, palplus, etc)
You can see the same thing with HDTV where analogue MUSE was described as 1125i but then the exact same size of footage was 1080i once it went digital

You'd get along with Ms Boods, cos he said almost the same thing, word-for-word, when I asked him about the lines and stuff on PAL/British tv. :)

He's been leaning towards a BluRay, so I need to think of the DW serial that might tip him over the edge. The extras might do it, too -- I've been trying to lure him into the world of commentaries and all the extra bits (I bought Timelash specifically for the commentary with Colin B and my lovely Paul Darrow).

It's been fun trying to guess which ones he'll find a hoot -- I love Mark Strickson's dial-it-up to 11 in Frontios and Enlightenment, but while he enjoyed them, they did hit him in the same sweet spot. He loved Timelash and Vengeance on Varos; we've done Mark of the Rani (he spent the entire serial convinced it was Joan Collins, not Kate O'Mara) and The Two Doctors (his first viewing of Patrick Troughton and Fraser Hines, so he had no idea who they were as DW characters, although since seeing a couple of 1960s serials, he's really come to like the dynamic between the Doctor and Jamie).

Apologies for interrupting the interesting general chat with our shenanigans! It's just been fun rewatching these serials with someone who's never seen them before -- this all came out of Forces TV I think it was showing a handful each of serials back in the springtime, and me saying, 'Oh, I have a lot of these on dvd if you want to see them without adverts.'

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The commentary on The Invasion is amazing because they just get increasingly happier and more excited as Packer gets more and more disheveled as the serial goes along. By the end when his hair is all over the place and he just looks so loving done with life everybody is howling, it's the best. :allears:

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Ms Boods posted:

(I.E. 'Why doesn't he just get K-9 in there?' Or trying to explain who Liz Shaw is -- he vaguely remembers Jo Grant, but was baffled when Liz showed up -- that said, so far Inferno is his favourite Jon Pertwee of the ones we've been through. Or that the Master in The Mind Robber is not that Master.)

You mean e.g. I.e is short for id est, in Latin, which means "that is." "E.g." is "exempli gratia," which translates to "for example."

:eng101:

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Timby posted:

You mean e.g. I.e is short for id est, in Latin, which means "that is." "E.g." is "exempli gratia," which translates to "for example."

:eng101:

Oh poo poo, I've always just assumed i.e. stood for 'in essence' or something like that.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Some of Get Shorty hasn't aged especially well but this scene is fun and educational!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_PL8ouEAus

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Timby posted:

You mean e.g. I.e is short for id est, in Latin, which means "that is." "E.g." is "exempli gratia," which translates to "for example."

:eng101:

now do "q.v." and "c.f."

Ms Boods
Mar 19, 2009

Did you ever wonder where the Romans got bread from? It wasn't from Waitrose!

Timby posted:

You mean e.g. I.e is short for id est, in Latin, which means "that is." "E.g." is "exempli gratia," which translates to "for example."

:eng101:

Nah -- I did actually mean it as 'that is, he asks me...[followed by the examples]' but you're absolutely right -- and it was sloppy usage on my part. E.g. would have been much better! No worries, I know what they both mean (and also where the Romans got their bread from). But ta :)

I blame posting before I was fully awake.

Ah, brilliant, on the Invasion commentary - if I can't persuade Mr Boods to watch it, I will on my ownsome.

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

ookiimarukochan posted:

now do "q.v." and "c.f."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDsSMi4zclo

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
https://twitter.com/mistressofnull/status/1553707671194423298?s=21

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Hope he just means that he plans to chew a SHITLOAD of scenery :hellyeah:

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

So in a Covid-fuelled dream last night, I dreamt that one of the new villains David Tennant would face off against was himself. Bad David Tennant was wearing a weird plastic parody mask of himself, like the William Shatner mask that Michael Myers wears in Halloween. It had very cartoonish proportions, all angular pointed chin and cheekbones, with a big plastic pompadour/quiff/spiked hair, and black eye holes, through which you could just see Tennant’s real eyes against his burnt, blackened skin in a very creepy effect. He had a fake Rose with him too, in a similar style, and just yeesh :stonk:

The_Doctor fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Aug 1, 2022

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
There's a villain in either The Avengers or The New Avengers (proper, not Marvel) who's pretty much that. He even swaps masks when he wants to change his expression.

Narsham
Jun 5, 2008

The_Doctor posted:

So in a Covid-fuelled dream last night, I dreamt that one of the new villains David Tennant would face off against was himself. Bad David Tennant was wearing a weird plastic parody mask of himself, like the William Shatner mask that Michael Myers wears in Halloween. It had very cartoonish proportions, all angular pointed chin and cheekbones, with a big plastic pompadour/quiff/spiked hair, and black eye holes, through which you could just see Tennant’s real eyes against his burnt, blackened skin in a very creepy effect. He had a fake Rose with him too, in a similar style, and just yeesh :stonk:

It's the Doctor and Rose from an Auton-ate universe!

(sorry not sorry)

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013

The_Doctor posted:

So in a Covid-fuelled dream last night, I dreamt that one of the new villains David Tennant would face off against was himself. Bad David Tennant was wearing a weird plastic parody mask of himself, like the William Shatner mask that Michael Myers wears in Halloween. It had very cartoonish proportions, all angular pointed chin and cheekbones, with a big plastic pompadour/quiff/spiked hair, and black eye holes, through which you could just see Tennant’s real eyes against his burnt, blackened skin in a very creepy effect. He had a fake Rose with him too, in a similar style, and just yeesh :stonk:

This sounds like exactly the sort of thing Doctor Who should do, tbh.

Wolfechu
May 2, 2009

All the world's a stage I'm going through


https://twitter.com/GerardGroves/status/1554519633071411206?t=h5Y357IMeujAjMahuLwf5w&s=19

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Four amazing artistic interpretations of the actors at an older age, and one current day photograph of Peter Capaldi :hai:

Narsham posted:

It's the Doctor and Rose from an Auton-ate universe!

:golfclap:

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020
The title just gives me images of them sitting down and enjoying some tea together. :3:

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
That Whittaker gives me Angela Lansbury vibes, and now I'm just imagining Whittaker in a reboot of Murder, She Wrote.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Smith and Tennant are horrifying but that Capaldi owns.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
Smith looks fine in the cropped twitter preview, but thumbskull above it makes him look so alien.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

I thought Tennant was one of Hale and/or Pace at first.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
Pornstache Tennant is extremely funny.

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.
Remember, canonically, The Curator can regenerate into older forms of previous incarnations at will....

Apparently he appears off screen as an older 11 in Stranded

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

There’s a new Cybus Industries website gone active in the last couple of days, with a countdown going. Cyberspeculation for Jodie’s finale!

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Can't wait for the new Cyber (Cybus?) Lords ARG

Class3KillStorm
Feb 17, 2011



Vinylshadow posted:

Can't wait for the new Cyber (Cybus?) Lords ARG

Oh, they're not bringing back those Cybermen/Time Lord hybrid things from the really crappy second season finale for Jodie's final episode, are they?

Chibnall should know better than making any callbacks to his material by now.

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
Fingers crossed that the Doctor like... magics them out of being dead so that they can go back to Gallifrey and the Day of the Doctor will continue to feel hopeful.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

9 years ago the new Doctor was announced. Yes, David Tennant will be.... wait, no, it must have been Matt Smith..... it was Peter Capaldi!?!?! I could swear it has only been six seasons since the 50th Anniversary spectacular!

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Jerusalem posted:

9 years ago the new Doctor was announced. Yes, David Tennant will be.... wait, no, it must have been Matt Smith..... it was Peter Capaldi!?!?! I could swear it has only been six seasons since the 50th Anniversary spectacular!

:sweatdrop:

I don’t like the passage of time.

McGann
May 19, 2003

Get up you son of a bitch! 'Cause Mickey loves you!

The_Doctor posted:

There’s a new Cybus Industries website gone active in the last couple of days, with a countdown going. Cyberspeculation for Jodie’s finale!

Nice, website powered by International Electromatics. Let's do this.

Narsham
Jun 5, 2008

Class3KillStorm posted:

Oh, they're not bringing back those Cybermen/Time Lord hybrid things from the really crappy second season finale for Jodie's final episode, are they?

*Mouth opens.*

Cyber voice: "This is the game of Rassilon"

*Mouth closes.*

I'll accept the Cyber Lords returning if we get us some surprise Omega action.

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

Narsham posted:

*Mouth opens.*

Cyber voice: "This is the game of Rassilon"

*Mouth closes.*

I'll accept the Cyber Lords returning if we get us some surprise Omega action.

"The Cybusmen of OMEGA!"

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


Class3KillStorm posted:

Oh, they're not bringing back those Cybermen/Time Lord hybrid things from the really crappy second season finale for Jodie's final episode, are they?

Chibnall should know better than making any callbacks to his material by now.
The worst thing about the Cybermen/Time Lord hybrid things was that they just stood there. If they came back as a higher class of Cyberman and actually did something meaningful related to their Time Lord origin that could be (somewhat) interesting and (somewhat) justify their creation in that god awful story.

Do I think Chibnall can actually do something interesting with them? No. I do not. But it's not an inherently terrible concept, despite being pretty terrible in execution. Whatever concept Chibnall goes for has a pretty big chance of being unpleasant and poorly executed. At least if he's referencing his own stories he's not taking a risk of messing up something more beloved.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Eiba posted:

The worst thing about the Cybermen/Time Lord hybrid things was that they just stood there. If they came back as a higher class of Cyberman and actually did something meaningful related to their Time Lord origin that could be (somewhat) interesting and (somewhat) justify their creation in that god awful story.

Do I think Chibnall can actually do something interesting with them? No. I do not. But it's not an inherently terrible concept, despite being pretty terrible in execution. Whatever concept Chibnall goes for has a pretty big chance of being unpleasant and poorly executed. At least if he's referencing his own stories he's not taking a risk of messing up something more beloved.

Yeah, the Cyberlords are an instance of a good idea, done poorly, and trapped in a bad story.

Which is not unique among Chibnall stories. I realized when describing the run to a friend that skipped it that while only one or two components of the run are outright bad just on inception, it's just that most of the good ideas are underused.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


do we know when we get more of this

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

October is the final Chibnall story, and then we get RTD2 potentially at Christmas.

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008

Open Source Idiom posted:

Moffat revealing that Davros never lost his eyes and he was just Wesley Snipes-ing it for decades.
Haha, I forgot about that.

One thing that always annoyed me with Davros is that the shots were always framed with his non-working eyes in the space where eyes should be. Like when they'd do a close-up for his dialogue, the blue forehead "eye" was always too high in the frame, so it doesn't make you think that he's looking out of it. I guess the whole time the camera operators knew!

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
I always assumed that Davros's original body had melted eyes but at some point the Daleks forgot to duplicate that when bringing him back.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DoctorWhat posted:

I always assumed that Davros's original body had melted eyes but at some point the Daleks forgot to duplicate that when bringing him back.

Oh believe me, the Daleks would not miss out on an opportunity to melt some eyes. ESPECIALLY Davros'!

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