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Xakura posted:Why are you telling me this, compensatory were already awarded, I''m fully aware. I would correct your statement to say either zero or $750k. The only way the end up with less than $750k in punitive damages is if they are awarded less than that, which I don't see happening. They'll award $150m in punitive now or something like that. I wonder if anyone will ask the jury how they feel after about Jones making half a billion off this lie (since this has gone on over a decade) while the people he hurt get less than $5m.
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Don't think it's to unrealistic to think the jury might go all in on the punitive. Even if it gets cut down a lot by Texas law still be nice to see Jones get the max he can get on it.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:32
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The max is only $750k though.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:43
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Baron von Eevl posted:The max is only $750k though. Unfortunately, Jones is only paying out ~$5m for this trial. He has been sanctioned nearly that much in both cases already.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:45
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If he can produce the 5mil and continue producing Infowars he should be penalised more for perjury.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:49
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Not doom posting, but he won't. I hope CT ends up being a higher figure, and that there is some fallout from the phone, and that other families decide to go after him too, but all that is iffy and none of it is going to result in him being broke.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:53
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Oh I know he won't, but in a good world he would be sanctioned for each individual lie with an exponentially increasing penalty for each.
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Aug 5, 2022 13:59
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One thing to think about - when they do finally get to trial in CT, when the plaintiffs have Jones on the stand, they're going to bring up his bragging about poisoning the jury with his "woe is me" poo poo, and if he denies it play his words to the jury.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Unfortunately, Jones is only paying out ~$5m for this trial. He has been sanctioned nearly that much in both cases already. Wonder if his legal team expects to get paid. Jones seemed genuinely shocked about the phone data but the way he said "so you DID get my emails" suggests that he and his team knew there was a possibility this would happen. Definitely would be surprised if that team gets another client in his life. They can't even throw a paralegal under the bus since they didn't do any of the legal kung fu that would have made the info protected in some way. gently caress that jury decision though. At one point he was making $800,000 a day, so they've basically docked him a week's wages for siccing dangerous lunatics on grieving parents.
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Aug 5, 2022 14:13
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Jones is likely going to make money off this trial than lose money.
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wit posted:Wonder if his legal team expects to get paid. Jones seemed genuinely shocked about the phone data but the way he said "so you DID get my emails" suggests that he and his team knew there was a possibility this would happen. Definitely would be surprised if that team gets another client in his life. They can't even throw a paralegal under the bus since they didn't do any of the legal kung fu that would have made the info protected in some way. Reynal has already been paid. Most criminal defense attorneys only take cash up front earned in full the moment you ink your name to the paper. Reynal is, by trade, a criminal law guy. Now, Jones definitely has grounds to sue Reynal for malpractice. Whether he does or not is up in the air. Reynal certainly has $1m-$5m in malpractice insurance, so they might not even hit his policy limit with this case.
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Philthy posted:Jones is likely going to make money off this trial than lose money. He already has raked in far more than $5m off of it.
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goatface posted:Oh I know he won't, but in a good world he would be sanctioned for each individual lie with an exponentially increasing penalty for each. Yeah, that would require the US to hold rich peoples' feet to the fire for crimes, and we just don't do that here. Our betters commit crimes for the good of themselves, and that's good for humanity or something.
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funeral home DJ posted:Yeah, that would require the US to hold rich peoples' feet to the fire for crimes, and we just don't do that here. Our betters commit crimes for the good of themselves, and that's good for humanity or something. The only way rich people are held accountable is if they mess with other rich people. If one of the victims belonged to an extremely wealthy family, Jones would have been hosed five ways from Sunday.
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Armitage posted:The only way rich people are held accountable is if they mess with other rich people. If one of the victims belonged to an extremely wealthy family, Jones would have been hosed five ways from Sunday. So to we need a school shooting at a private school to get his attention and him rant for 15 yeas that it was all an stage play? We need a different timeline.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He already has raked in far more than $5m off of it. And with all the attention the case has got you know some new people are listening or buying that weren't before.
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Here’s hoping he has a lot of rich people texting him crazy stuff that can be exposed in the data dump.
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Confusedslight posted:Be wild if he turns out to be a regular listener of Knowledge Fight. Maybe some day: Jordan: "Dan!" Dan: "Jordan." Jordan: "Daaaaan!" Dan: "Jordan." Jordan: "Quick question." Dan: "Shoot." Jordan: "What's your bright spot today?" Dan: "My bright spot is that the info on Alex's phone finally got leaked, and oh by it's a doozy." Jordan: "An actual doozy, or like the time Osama Bin Laden's hard drive got leaked and it was mostly porn and children's movies?" Dan: "No, this one's actually damaging."
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I feel like most people don’t really have a good idea of how much money Alex has, or they just pretend not to do they can fully wallow in their self pity
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MLSM posted:How did that loving idiot lawyer not see this coming Let's not use jack posobiec tweets if possible, dude is a neonazi.
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Today there will be a feed, as it is now the Punitive phase And know what? Even if yesterday was less than ideal, if Heslin and Lewis get some peace for goddamn once, I’m happy. Ultimately, they are the plaintiffs, not us* So with that, I’ll watch. I presume it’ll be a bit dryer, but maybe a weird gem or two will appear. Plus inshallah, I will see the defense step on yet more rakes. Once the link is live, I or a thousand goons will post it, and I’ll post it in the OP as per usual. Join us, won’t you? *yet
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Sir Tonk posted:Let's not use jack posobiec tweets if possible, dude is a neonazi. Poster thought this was a sick burn and that Matt got totally owned so for all I know you might be replying to a neonazi.
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We are live! And Jones is here
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live on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TT7yFiXyU
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teen witch posted:Today there will be a feed, as it is now the Punitive phase Inasmuch as I'd love to see Alex get punished, at least people like him might be a bit more careful about what they're saying. That is, if he'd stuck with a "Sandy Hook was done by the feds and Adam Lanza was a patsy" or "he was conditioned to do so", that'd be one thing, but the victims themselves were piled-on to be fake. Accuse the US government or the FBI of doing this, not on actual victims who will feel that pain.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I feel like most people don’t really have a good idea of how much money Alex has, or they just pretend not to do they can fully wallow in their self pity A large part of this trial revolved around the fact that literally nobody outside Infowars had a good idea how much money Alex has. They still don't, really. Even by your standards this seems like a dumb and pointless thing to post.
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this dude is loving crazy qualified. E: where the gently caress is Alex
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teen witch posted:this dude is loving crazy qualified. Unfortunately in this timeline that's could actually be a detriment.
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I am 100 percent open for more people within this field to chime in for “this is what it means for us numberweirds” at any time
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teen witch posted:this dude is loving crazy qualified. I am always astonished and in awe of these people with such educationa and qualifications. As I sit here with a associate degree and never continued. He was there.
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At the rate he's aging, I expect Jones to look like if Emperor Palpatine had unlimited access Country Kitchen Buffet by the time he's 52.
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I don't know weather to watch this or not. Seeing how wealthy he is will just make me feel sick.
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Digital Jedi posted:I am always astonished and in awe of these people with such educationa and qualifications. Back when I was in college, I was part of the college's CGA* case competition team, where you compete against other teams from other colleges to prepare a 10-minute presentation for a group of judges (with two hours to prepare). One of our judges had SIX designations after his name. I can see getting two or three, but six non-bullshit designations was incredibly intimidating. *One of 3 Canadian accounting designations. There's just one now, CPA
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Catastrophe posted:At the rate he's aging, I expect Jones to look like if Emperor Palpatine had unlimited access Country Kitchen Buffet by the time he's 52. Yeah, never forget that Andrew Breitbart keeled over from a heart attack and he looked about as healthy as Jones does.
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Confusedslight posted:I don't know weather to watch this or not. Seeing how wealthy he is will just make me feel sick. Ugh, yeah. Can't sit here and watch this guy blow Jones over his accomplishments. If I wanted to see that, I'd just wait for phone videos of his to be uploaded to Motherless.
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*Bankston-ishly*: "Mr. Jones, are you aware.."
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Confusedslight posted:I don't know weather to watch this or not. Seeing how wealthy he is will just make me feel sick. seems like the real answer anyway is he has access to the rich that functionally translates to being infinitely wealthy. Sue him for his last dollar today and someone'll drop millions more in his bank account tomorrow. Garnish every penny he ever makes for the rest of his life and he'll spend it like the Pope, penniless in a gilded palace that is technically entirely owned by a legally distinct entity. You're not gonna hurt him through his wallet, time to try something else.
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2021 net revenue for FSS was $64 million
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