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Saltpowered posted:About which thing? 80% chance of capping the damages at WHAT? i'm seeing 750k, 750k per person, and up to 10x the compensatory damages (which would be 41 mil)... what is the actual cap that is likely to be enforced, if any?
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ben shapino posted:80% chance of capping the damages at WHAT? i'm seeing 750k, 750k per person, and up to 10x the compensatory damages (which would be 41 mil)... what is the actual cap that is likely to be enforced, if any? 750k per plaintiff per count. So $4.5M. I'm not going to post the Texas code for the 5th time but that's it. Now, the $750k cap per plaintiff per count is not automatic either. The court of appeals could set it lower than that and frequently do. There was a big contract related case involving... BMW I think... a few years ago where $100M+ in punitive damages got turned into $600k.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:36
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I’d like to know who gave Jones that $8mil bailout recently, and I bet the phone leak has some clues about it.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:37
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ben shapino posted:80% chance of capping the damages at WHAT? i'm seeing 750k, 750k per person, and up to 10x the compensatory damages (which would be 41 mil)... what is the actual cap that is likely to be enforced, if any? We don't really know yet. The defense will try to fight for the lowest possible number, the plaintiffs the highest possible number, and the ultimate judgment somewhere in between. I don't think any of us can just read off a law book and say it's going to be x. It's going to be litigated. But it's at least a few million dollars, for sure.
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Saltpowered posted:750k per plaintiff per count. So $4.5M. I'm not going to post the Texas code for the 5th time but that's it. how many counts? is that 4.5M per plaintiff or in total? this is what i mean about people really not communicating the details well. i cant find any of this in any news articles or anything and am just hearing all kinds of things all over the place.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:38
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ben shapino posted:how many counts? is that 4.5M per plaintiff or in total? There are 2 plaintiffs, there are 3 counts, that's $4.5M. There's lots of details and discussions about this in the last few pages. Just assume that AJ is on the hook for a large sum of money that could be up to the $45M but will likely be less. Law is complicated especially Tort damages. It will still hurt him. There are still more cases.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:40
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Pirate Radar posted:I’d like to know who gave Jones that $8mil bailout recently, and I bet the phone leak has some clues about it. Peter Thiel is the most common and well-supported hypothesis, but it’s miles from certain so keep a bag of rock salt handy if you investigate.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:42
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Pirate Radar posted:I’d like to know who gave Jones that $8mil bailout recently, and I bet the phone leak has some clues about it. We'll find out in the bankruptcy trial. Especially since he's talked about it so drat much on the air but didn't put it in any of his financials as part of that filing. 
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Aug 6, 2022 05:43
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Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that Alex Jones isn't Microsoft. His enterprise can take some wounding and survive, but even a couple million is not small change for him, and it will have some negative effect on his business if nothing else. Compounding that with multiple judgments will only make the bleeding worse. There's never going to be a storybook ending where Alex Jones is suddenly destitute in an instant. Reality/Life doesn't work like that. But a win is a win.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:44
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He might have to sell some toys—the boat, the big truck, etc—and that will piss him off
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Aug 6, 2022 05:48
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Pirate Radar posted:He might have to sell some toys—the boat, the big truck, etc—and that will piss him off The tank???
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Aug 6, 2022 05:51
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Pirate Radar posted:I’d like to know who gave Jones that $8mil bailout recently, and I bet the phone leak has some clues about it. A long shot but given the Austin -> Jones-> Rogan connections, I keep waiting for Elon to show up.
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Aug 6, 2022 05:51
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I don't care how poor he is, I just want him off the air
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Aug 6, 2022 05:52
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I can see a wonderful cycle of fans donate to Alex > Alex pays off lawsuits > Alex badmouths the people from the lawsuits and encourages violence towards them > Alex gets sued and seeks donations
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Aug 6, 2022 06:01
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Xiahou Dun posted:The tank??? It’s not even a tank! It’s a Ford with armor plating owned by a delusional narcissist.
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Devils Affricate posted:I don't care how poor he is, I just want him off the air Well, that’s never really gonna happen. Even if FSS shuts down and Alex can’t promote himself, someone else will promote him. Short of Alex going to jail, and maybe not even then, there’s not that is going to get him offline.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:14
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Devils Affricate posted:I don't care how poor he is, I just want him off the air Sure, but in the real world, what you want is for him to be Glenn Beck'd. Made so irrelevant and ridiculous that even people on his side think he's a buffoon and a joke. Get him as far to the absolute floor of his support that you can, and hope the rest of the world forgets about him. Make him an irrelevant joke. This trial has done a lot towards that, a lot like the Jan 6th hearings are doing to Trump. Death by 1000 cuts takes too long to feel like justice, but sometimes that's the best you can do. I'll take it over having nothing done but me metaphorically waving my fist at him.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:17
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Devils Affricate posted:I don't care how poor he is, I just want him off the air Even when his huffing and puffing is disingenuous his heart doesn't know it, the best chance for him to die naturally, soon, is live on air.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:19
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Is there a timeline when any of the others cases begin or at least status of them all? One the CT cases is starting Sept, if the bankruptcy stay is lifted, right?
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Aug 6, 2022 06:22
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Judge said the Pozner case would start mid September. Hopefully the infowars playbook of delay tactics is running out of pages.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:27
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Alex Jones runs for political office if his show goes off the air.
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Aug 6, 2022 06:57
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I guess what I'm saying is I would really like for him to be put in jail for his crimes.
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Devils Affricate posted:I guess what I'm saying is I would really like for him to be put in jail for his crimes. Lol what are you, drunk?
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Pirate Radar posted:It’s not even a tank! It’s a Ford with armor plating owned by a delusional narcissist. O so a technical.
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Devils Affricate posted:I guess what I'm saying is I would really like for him to be put in jail for his crimes. 
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Aug 6, 2022 08:14
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fork jail wont cut it, alex needs a spork jail (for the chili)
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Aug 6, 2022 08:22
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Remember when Jones went running and it looked like if a gorilla was running in a cartoon? https://i.imgur.com/QvJzFtS.mp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igSHbtv52G4
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Snowy posted:I started beekeeping and it gave me a new appreciation for yellowjackets So they basically just try to stab you to death with tiny, tiny daggers? 
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Xiahou Dun posted:O so a technical. Only when he stands up in the back of it, since his voice is a weapon.
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$45.2 million. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/05/media/alex-jones-punitive-damages-sandy-hook/index.html quote:New York (CNN Business)A Texas jury has decided to penalize Alex Jones with $45.2 million in punitive damages in a lawsuit filed by the parents of Sandy Hook shooting victim Jesse Lewis. Suck it Jones.
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So it turns out yellowjackets actually do have venom but I stand by my position that honeybee stings are worse. Wasp stings have much less venom, even if you’re stung multiple times it’s likely to be less overall than one bee sting, plus it’s spread to multiple locations rather than one. Yellowjackets are fine
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Snowy posted:So it turns out yellowjackets actually do have venom but I stand by my position that honeybee stings are worse. Wasp stings have much less venom, even if you’re stung multiple times it’s likely to be less overall than one bee sting, plus it’s spread to multiple locations rather than one. I got swarmed as a kid and was stung 47 times. I was functionally immobile for several days and it sucked a lot. I’m not allergic to them or bees, nor am I scared of them now. But I do find this interesting because I don’t find their stings less painful than honeybee stings. Honeybees are so uncommon now I almost miss the occasional sting on the foot
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DeimosRising posted:I got swarmed as a kid and was stung 47 times. I was functionally immobile for several days and it sucked a lot. I’m not allergic to them or bees, nor am I scared of them now. But I do find this interesting because I don’t find their stings less painful than honeybee stings. Honeybees are so uncommon now I almost miss the occasional sting on the foot In my experience the sting isn’t less painful than a bee’s, but the after effects are much milder
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ben shapino posted:does anyone actually know what is going to happen from this point going forward? There's going to be an epic storm on the internet when someone leaks AJ's phone.
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Is there a video available of his dumbshit lawyer getting laughed at by the judge about the phone? Missed it yesterday.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Peter Thiel is the most common and well-supported hypothesis, but it’s miles from certain so keep a bag of rock salt handy if you investigate. I would think if Peter Thiel is potentially involved, garlic or a silver cross would be more handy to have during your investigation.
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yippeekiyaymf posted:Is there a video available of his dumbshit lawyer getting laughed at by the judge about the phone? Missed it yesterday. A full recording of yesterdays livestream is up on the court's youtube page, but it's unlisted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_TT7yFiXyU&t=28234s Starts at about 7:50:00.
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Snowy posted:I started beekeeping and it gave me a new appreciation for yellowjackets
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Hungry Computer posted:A full recording of yesterdays livestream is up on the court's youtube page, but it's unlisted. Thank you. This is glorious.
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cat botherer posted:WTF yellowjackets absolutely have venom. Yeah I know now, jeez. They just inject much less per sting than a honeybee, so the stings aren’t as likely to have lasting effects, or so I’ve read. Ymmv of course
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