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landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Lumpy posted:

Walk in, say “when are you going to discount that again, because I’ll come in and buy one”. It may turn our that it just so happens they were going to discount it again tomorrow, but they’ll give it to you today. Then again they may be moving them like hot cakes and you’ll have to wait a while.

this is terrible advice. no one on the floor at retail knows when they’re gonna discount poo poo before it’s time to put out the tags.

ask me how i know

e: oh nvm i was imagining a guitar center, whoops

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Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib
Thanks for the advice. I can’t imagine they move many Helix’s, at least not the LT. I think the manager at my local shop works today so I’ll pop in and try ask him.

Haggling is not really part of our culture here given our English colonial roots. Worst they can do is say no though I guess!

gregday
May 23, 2003

Tenchrono posted:

Moved into a new place over the weekend and finally have enough space to display more than 2 guitars at once. Still waiting on a console table and playing chair to be delivered but its nice getting to see the collection instead of them stuffed in cases inside of a closet.


Nice spread. I need to get an SG.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Tenchrono posted:

Moved into a new place over the weekend and finally have enough space to display more than 2 guitars at once. Still waiting on a console table and playing chair to be delivered but its nice getting to see the collection instead of them stuffed in cases inside of a closet.


I approve of guitar collection photos

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

gregday posted:

Nice spread. I need to get an SG.

Get a sparkly pink one

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

That’s not a bad idea.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Ok I just had a great warm-up and practice. I'm feeling good so I'd like to share. It's totally e/n but it's about the instrument, performance, and their relationship to me, so skip it if you might wanna be a dick about it.

The band I worked my rear end off for, with our one gig in May, kinda kicked my rear end. On the one hand, I give myself credit for doing the best I could preparing all of that material over just six weeks. I did learn everything, I wrote gig-appropriate patches in my modeler. I've had a chance to go back through them recently and drat they are good. At the gig I made it through most of the show but my left hand did actually lock up with two songs left in the night. My keyboardist bailed me out on the intro to Journey's "Lights" which sucked because I worked out that intro really well and couldn't wait to play it, and I limped through You Really Got Me to finish the night. But my left hand was just dead, it turned into a claw that I could only stare at accusingly. loving traitor. After so many years of neglect I couldn't get through a three hour show, even though I tried to be smart about practicing to the right amount and not quite overdoing it. I didn't want to hurt anything important.
All that was really hurt was my pride. The band leader never gave me any credit (but the rest of the band was much cooler and I was able to feel good about that). But I also got depressed and avoided my guitars for the rest of May and June. I got them all cleaned and strung up and set up, but then just couldn't lift one to actually play it.

Early in July I got a message on Bandmix. It was a bassist here in town who had a drummer and they had an idea for a project. They found me there and followed to my Soundcloud and they thought I was their guy. They wanted to know if I was interested. So when they told me it was a Sammy Hagar project, I saw why. It would be covering any material we liked from Montrose, his solo albums, Van Hagar, Chickenfoot (with Michael Anthony and Joe Satriani), and The Circle (which is a Led Zepp tribute with Vic Johnson on guitar). There are a lot of hits in there, a ton actually, if we can find the right singer (not my problem).
I was inclined to do it just to get out of the house. To get back into a live situation and play way too loud. That seemed like a good idea, and all I had to do was play the kind of stuff I've been playing since I started playing Van Halen in 1987.

ITT we had discussed 5150 amps because Agreed got one, and I already had been playing with similar sounds in my modeler, including Soldanos, Plexis, Freidmans, ENGLs, Diesels, the 5150 MKIII, and the o so delicious Cameron Atomica. So I started over and made three stereo rigs for tryout (which I will distill down to mono for gigs.) One is Atomicas, one is 5150 MKIIIs, and one is 5150 BLs. They are identical except for the amps, with the typical EVH sounds: phaser, flanger, chorus, and Wet/Dry/Wet stereo detune "chorus." Stereo delays, simple room and plate reverbs, and a digitech whammy effect because I remember Satch loved those for awhile.
I also made that acoustic IR based on my Breedlove and matched to the Crunch Lab in my JEM70VSFG which is now set up in standard for this project. I use that for the intro to Dreams. It sounds loving amazing. And it doesn't matter which 5150 or Atomicas I play, they sound sick. Attitude. Just my Pearly Gates in my hard-tail strat and those amps dry, man Rock Candy sounds fat as hell. I might just start using the Firefly LP for that old Montrose stuff.

But I have been nagged constantly by how things ended in May. Way too much up in my head. I set boundaries right away with the new rhythm section. Told them I don't care what is on the setlist. I won't play dress up to look like Eddie or anything stupid like that. I don't want to talk from the stage or do anything but nail some Van Halen and some Chickenfoot and go home. I don't want to work out the setlist, or debate where to play, any of that poo poo. At first they thought I was too nonchalant about it all until I told them it ain't that I don't have opinions. You guys know me better than that! Instead, I simply have no interest in imposing my opinions on this project. Hire a rhythm guitarist if you want, just keep them out of my lane. I won't bow up about anything, but I also told them in all honesty I just may not cut it. I told them about the May gig and how I'd kinda fallen low after. I told them I would be happy just to hang out if I didn't have the hands for it anymore, as I wasn't sure. I think they appreciated my honesty.

So this Wednesday I was invited to the rehearsal space, which they hadn't been to since the pandemic started. Last weekend I had been practicing the tunes I was told to learn and I had gotten back to wanting to stand up and move around. To really get into the spirit. And it was getting fun. Playing Rock Candy, Heavy Metal, There's Only One Way To Rock, Dreams, Finish What Ya Started, Won't Get Fooled Again, Rock 'n Roll. I learned this ridiculous blues called Big Foot from Chickenfoot III. Jesus Christ is it fun. Since I hadn't tried out yet (that is Sunday) I sat down with the backing tracks I had gathered and I recorded all of Big Foot, half of Rock Candy, and Dreams through the solo. I put them on my phone and took them with me. And btw I played my left hand very nearly to overload again. It was a hard workout because I let myself get fixated on the solo to Dreams and did way too many takes. And I try to throttle the guitar to death on Rock Candy, it feels like I need to sell it and I end up just wailing on the thing.

At the rehearsal space I got my phone hooked up to the PA (which is niiiiice) and cranked the tracks I had put down earlier that morning, and the guys and their buddy who owns the building started looking at me funny. In a good way. We hung out from 10am to noon and I came home and did not touch a guitar again until tonight. I needed at least a day to recover from the recording session because now I am playing 10's at standard pitch and that's more of a lift than I am used to. But it has paid off. I played all the tryout songs through twice tonight and I still have fingers left. Those whole-step bends at standard feel like they used to at Eb, which is to say my callouses are fully recovered and my finger strength and endurance are back online. Accuracy still suffering, but I can even get some stretches of very fast alternate picking going which is new. I went back to the band leader's place and got back my other Headrush 108 cabinet which I had left there all this time, and I am ready to try out on Sunday. All honesty I think bringing my tracks in on Wednesday got me the gig already, but I can take it or leave it. It's neat to see my Bandmix and Bandfinder profiles are still getting visitors every week.

I'm feeling a confidence I didn't feel back in April. I bought some 9's for standard tuning but now I don't think I will need them (but if I do, they are D'Addario XT 09-046 and I have four packs to start. Finish What Ya Started, I play on a preset that's a Fender Super and a Deluxe Reverb, 2x12 and 4x10 cabs, and hell yes put a Leslie rotary on it and vary the speed with an expression pedal in some places, it's magic! I found the tab for the solo, thank God. It's not so hard as it sounds.

So looking back at all my posts here, that's where all that stuff came from. The acoustic talk, for example. That worked out really great!

We will need a keyboardist, and they are hoping for a rhythm guitarist. I'm easy. I just hope I can deliver. Better than May, anyway. So I am looking at new guitars because I found this Ibanez S-Series that I really really like, but I may gently caress up and "accidentally" buy one of the used Guthrie Govan Charvels on Reverb.

If you hung through all of this, bless your heart. :)

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


I heard that loving machine gun kelly song while I was getting a haircut now my evening is ruined

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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Sounds like yer pretty mad

















this summer

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Today I went looking at guitars and when the conversation turned to amps I pointed to a Boss Katana and told the guy that the internet told me to buy that one

I feel like I did good









(not my exact words; I told the guy I'd heard good things about it)

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I hope you have a blast Dr. F, and that your hand doesn't trouble you! Don't sweat how poo poo went down, that's not your fault man. I'm sorry they were pricks about it. Don't let it weigh on you, just do your thing and enjoy it.




Re: Katana, I like a Katana every time I plug into one to test some pedal I shouldn't be buying at Guitar Center (I have too many (it's happening again)), I think they did a really nice job on those

Agreed fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 6, 2022

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Dr. Faustus posted:

Guitar related e/n

Man, I'm sorry to hear how the thing went in May. I'm glad to hear you're doing better now, and it sounds like you're rocking the new project. If I may ask, why go for 10s in standard if there's a worry about your endurance/strength? Wouldn't 9s or even 8s help keep the tension down, if that's a concern?

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

Yeah that sounds like a good idea, if your hand is suffering with 10s using lighter strings would make a lot of sense.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Long story short, if you don't use those muscles you will lose them. I'd rather work back through an adjustment period than give up so early. I bought 9s. But tonight I played 14 songs and still had lots left in me. Another five-six no problem. And the longest show we will do I expect to be maybe 14 songs. Maybe even less. 45 minutes to an hour, plus three "encore" tunes.

I'm not ready to admit defeat, that's all. I'm prepared if I must!

Thanks, guys. :3:

E: Also imagine if I work out on 10s in standard and talk them into staying in Eb all night, they'll feel like 9s! And no way I am dedicating more than two of my floating trems to standard tuning. Not. Gonna.

SwissDonkey
Mar 29, 2007

I'm really excited for you Faustus. It was awesome seeing you get keen for the gig in May, and you had all of my sympathy when you reported back about the shitfight that it became. Hybrid strings seem like they'd be up your ally, standard E A and D but lighter G B and E. I fret quite hard for my rhythm but my leads have a light touch and a lot of legato elements. If I run straight 9s I pressure bend the gently caress out of the bass strings, 10s are too high tension for my leads on strat scale length. I run Elixir Optiwebs because my sweat kills normal strings in a couple of days, but YMMV

I've recently joined a "punk" band myself about 7 weeks ago (hence the recent purchase of the player plus strat, vox ac15 and a bunch of pedals). It's the first non cover band I've been in, and I've become the main composer for the group. I've brought across a couple of songs I wrote and shared with you guys a year or so ago - teaching other people YOUR song, and hearing it played with 4 other people is a phenomenal thing.

We have 10 originals now, planning on recording an EP later this year and launching with live shows early next year (while continuing writing). The first time in my life it's felt right to fully dedicate myself to music and I've never had more life satisfaction.
In short, guitar owns so loving much.

SwissDonkey fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Aug 6, 2022

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Right on, man. It really is.

Congratulations on the band! My most recent VOX memory is this summer on Facebook I watched a guy in a Fractal group playing some intensely amazing old-school searing surf-y kinda stuff on a Danelectro. It was one of those really raw sounds that I felt like I should have known what it was but was embarrassed I had to ask. And when he told me it was an AC15 model I smacked my head. Duh. Not punk, of course, but the few times I got to spend on an AC30 were just glorious.
Writing music is something I hate doing by myself but I can definitely get into when I have other ears in the room to help me pick out the riffs, hooks, and grooves. It's great to have a drummer just react to your riff and lock into it with you. I miss that. Best of luck to you, too. I look forward to hearing what you guys put together as you are able to share.

Rock on!

I'm hoping to be able to bring home audio and video before too long, and if it's not too bad I'll want to share it. Thanks.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

I. M. Gei posted:

Today I went looking at guitars and when the conversation turned to amps I pointed to a Boss Katana and told the guy that the internet told me to buy that one

I feel like I did good









(not my exact words; I told the guy I'd heard good things about it)

you know what, you did good. it's a good amp

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

Helianthus Annuus posted:

:golfclap:

nice performance. the song isn't my thing, but you're my favorite guitarist / singer in this thread, mr dent!

aw thanks!

Dr. Faustus posted:

But my left hand was just dead, it turned into a claw that I could only stare at accusingly. loving traitor.

good post all around, but this? i have been there. especially when performing classical solo...total lock up the first few times.

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Dr. Faustus posted:

I went back to the band leader's place and got back my other Headrush 108 cabinet which I had left there all this time, and I am ready to try out on Sunday.
It seems funny to me to just pull this out from your post, but I’m wondering how you like the Headrush. I’ve been thinking about getting a FRFR to get away from using my monitors, and this one seems to come up a lot as a recommendation.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

i played that pearly gates hardtail strat it sounded sick

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

The Rev. Billy G definitely lines 'em up right. I played a Pearly Gates in a friends' guitar (straight into a DSL40) a couple years ago, and it was glorious. Now I'm GAS-sing, thank a lot folks.

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


The Boss Katana owns and guitars own.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


That lovely bastard put out a full version of Mad This Summer.

https://augustisfalling.bandcamp.com/track/mad-this-summer

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Tenchrono posted:

The Boss Katana owns and guitars own.

I bought one based on this thread and I've been delighted with it. It sounds better than the 15w Park or 5w Blackstar I was using, and I can get a pretty nice sound at low volumes in my flat with the .5w setting. I use pedals more than the settings, but the dirt and reverb are pretty sweet when I can't be arsed unzipping my pedal case. I'm not far beyond "guitar go brrrr", but I can't imagine needing much more than my Player & MIM Tele & Strat and the Katana for like 85% I can imagine doing with guitars for the foreseeable future.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

The Leck posted:

It seems funny to me to just pull this out from your post, but I’m wondering how you like the Headrush. I’ve been thinking about getting a FRFR to get away from using my monitors, and this one seems to come up a lot as a recommendation.
I totally get it, as I was all questions about FRFRs and worried I'd spent my money incorrectly until I actually took them to a jam with a real drumkit and huge refrigerator bass rig to hang with.

The Headrush and the Alto are, I guess, the same product or close to it. And before I tried the HR108s I had heard they are very boomy. I'm sure you already have an idea in your head of what that means, right? So did I, but, you know, what does that actually mean for using them?
My experience went like this: I tried them out in my apartment at very low volume and wow, yeah they are like all bass down low. I mean, you will want to EQ all that bass right the gently caress out to play them quietly. That was when I doubted them, of course. I took them both to a jam and was stunned by how loud and clear they are. They are powered PA cabs essentially and they are not loving around. I did not need two of them, that was just plain overkill. The output on my rig was off and the one cabinet was maybe turned up to 5? And when I started rolling in the volume from my rig I blew right past apartment volume and suddenly the springs on the snare were rattling in sympathy. Like, I would expect that, maybe, if I'd already set the cab to 10. But I wasn't close to that on the cab yet, and I was still at about 5 on the output volume from my rig. And we are talking full, fat, bright and clear sound. Not like a 4x12 cabinet, but more like a 4x12 that's been miced up, run into a board and processed for a studio recording. As raw as you like, but still polished. And the disparity caused by those prevalent lows went away at jam volume. Nothing to complain about. Chug chug chug squeeeeaall! That was when I knew I was happy and didn't have to worry about getting rid of them. And they are only 19 lbs. each. So at very low volume be ready to dedicate an EQ to killing those lows, but you won't need it at any volume you might need to keep up with a drummer.
I am not exaggerating when I say this pair could without question push a small (indoor) venue. With volume to spare. I kept the other cabinet around to let my keyboardist use as a powered monitor, and from across the room it sounded amazing as well.

And they have two inputs on the back with independent volumes, so you can run a vocal or something else into them.

Now that I know all of this, I am going to set them up facing me in stereo so I can just groove on the sound myself, and give the rest of the band whatever they want through the PA. Tomorrow evening at 6pm. I cannot wait. It is a big stage, I have the room to spread out.

They don't look like much sound reinforcement at all, but Jeeeeesus. 2000W each.

landgrabber posted:

i played that pearly gates hardtail strat it sounded sick
If you ever have downtime to kill in Charlotte you know where I am, and you are always always welcome. We should just spend our time playing and talking about music. I can get my bass out and accompany you. I am adding a new guitar sometime around the 15th. :)

a.p. dent posted:

total lock up the first few times.
It was maybe the most frightening and shocking thing that's ever happened while I was holding a guitar. I was at a total loss. I think my whole life flashed before my eyes while I was staring down at my guitar neck. Somewhere in my head a voice was asking, "Is this it? Did I die?" lol

duodenum posted:

The Rev. Billy G definitely lines 'em up right. I played a Pearly Gates in a friends' guitar (straight into a DSL40) a couple years ago, and it was glorious. Now I'm GAS-sing, thank a lot folks.
My late pal was a ToneZone freak, he had a slew of Ibanezes and they all ended up with ToneZones in them. When I bought my PG I accidentally bought a standard-spaced pickup when I needed trem-spaced. So I had it just lying around. I gave it to him but he never installed it (and he was handy with a soldering iron.) So I took it upon myself to install it in his Pacifica and sent him home with it (like I wanted to do for lg), and from then until he passed I heard about it all the time. He just couldn't understand why he liked it so much when his whole approach to guitar was gain, gain, and more gain. It was funny, and it was fun. I'd say to this day my favorite two bridge humbuckers I have are that PG and a JB. Just can't go wrong with those guys.

I gotta go through all my poo poo and make sure I have all my cables and stuff for tomorrow!

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

I've had my hand get crampy when I was first learning new skills, and indeed playing through it (on the scale of weeks, not, like, that night, which might have actually hurt the tendons etc. to keep pushing past failure on such intricate structure) and building strength made the things that used to be impossible not just possible but "sit there and do it for an hour no problem" level doable eventually.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Kazinsal posted:

That lovely bastard put out a full version of Mad This Summer.

https://augustisfalling.bandcamp.com/track/mad-this-summer

Everyone buys this for as much as you can spare. Let’s get Pat that hot tub money.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Done. It's almost Saturday noight.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Lumpy posted:

Everyone buys this for as much as you can spare. Let’s get Pat that hot tub money.

He's done this to himself though, he can't spend that money on anything BUT a HT

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Lumpy posted:

Everyone buys this for as much as you can spare. Let’s get Pat that hot tub money.

Idk, I want the rest of the EP. We were promised at least three more tracks, including a Kim guest verse

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I have a headrush 108, it's alright, but pretty boomy even sitting on some foam. I think I had to put the high pass on my Helix up to like 110hz or so to get rid of it.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



How does one go about convincing themselves that it's okay to play guitar?

I have this weird deep-seeded sense of shame any time I look at or pick up a guitar, like God or some unseen entity is judging me and I shouldn't be doing it. I don't know if it's imposter syndrome or what but it does gently caress with me pretty bad. Like I went to Guitar Center today and it took a pretty good bit of reassuring myself it was okay for me to be in there to even go into the store at all, much less look at anything or ask questions.

I know I'm hosed up and all, but is this a thing other people experience?

I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Aug 7, 2022

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
you just need to buy more guitars so people know you are serious about it

And yes. I feel it sometimes even though I'm not a beginner. And it can apply to anything. Think about how most people feel their first time going to a public gym. What would you say to them? It applies to yourself as well with guitar. Although if it's fairly problematic, seeking therapy or something would probably help, a thing I really could benefit from myself.

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Aug 7, 2022

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I mean if this is the kinda fear I'm gonna have about going to lessons then I'm not gonna make a lot of progress.

Surely this is a feeling other people besides me have had too?

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

I had a crushing dread to play in front of/with other people for a long time. It took forever for me to get comfortable even making the noise so that I could hear it, but eventually you break through that wall.
Then I just recently did a big recording session with my brother who's been playing for twice as long as I have and is easily three times better than I'll ever be

but you just gotta make some noise and realize the planet will not come crashing down if you make an unpleasant sound or flub a note

and all the rules of music are made up anyhow so just make yourself happy

confidence comes from doing the thing that scares you, no amount of preparation is going to make the initial fear go away but spending enough time doing the thing that scares you makes it less scary

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
It might "ruin" the first couple of lessons, but if you find a good teacher you'll get familiar with them pretty fast and feel better.

Anyway, it's definitely a thing people experience. If it continues to be a problem, don't be afraid to go talk to a professional about it.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Drunk Driver Dad posted:

And yes. I feel it sometimes even though I'm not a beginner. And it can apply to anything.

I actually feel this way about a lot of things. It took me well into grown-rear end adulthood to convince myself that it was okay to listen to my choice of radio station in my own car. I don't know if there's a trauma behind it but it fucks me up BAD.

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

Think about how most people feel their first time going to a public gym. What would you say to them?

Until a few years ago, I did all of my working out at home because I was terrified of going to a public gym. And I'm only just barely able to go to one now.

widefault
Mar 16, 2009

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

you just need to buy more guitars so people know you are serious about it

I just get called a hoarder when I do that, but I'm doing something about it at least. Since the middle of June I've bought 5 guitars, but sold 13. There's another 9 that are on the chopping block. I even have space on one of my guitar racks right now.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I'm just trying to have money to buy ONE trumpet





and y'all in here buying and selling 10+ guitars


I need to get a job :smith:

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Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

I. M. Gei posted:

I know I'm hosed up and all, but is this a thing other people experience?

Yeah I put immense pressure on myself when it comes to my guitar playing. The thought of playing or practicing often fills me with dread. It gets in the way a lot.

I'm afraid I'm not sure what will help. It'll probably be easier as playing becomes more habitual, though.

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