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Comedy is a spectrum but you might understand how a trait seen as a positive by some (funny/clever/witty) would be difficult to attach to a loathsome individual. Yeah, you could say that the Gay Frogs diatribe is absurdist in the most Kaufmanesque way. But this is the same guy that says that Child Murder Spree #527 was a government plot employing actors and real-dolls when, you know, parents are out there getting harassed while they mourn their children. Trump isn't funny, he's just an rear end in a top hat. A Wizard of Goatse posted:A bunch of posters with regdates from when SA was well within its "comedy forum ...
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1) That wasn't very funny 2) yet again, it was literally at someone else's expense and making fun of the insane criminal accusations against her that he's been spouting for years. That basically proved my point.
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mojo1701a posted:Also, the only version of Dan and Jordan's interview on CNN that I can find so far: This is the first time I’ve seen podcasters in something I listen to and they look exactly how I imagined they would.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:A bunch of posters with regdates from when SA was well within its "comedy forum where we find harmless weirdos and call them human being a lot" era now acting like they can't conceive of humor being morally neutral or deliberately deployed by a mean person, yeah creepy's a good word. Maybe it’s a misalignment on what people mean by being funny on purpose, then. I could blow up in absurd rage at this post and shout “I’M THE BUTT OF THE JOKE?! SURE PAL, I’M THE BIGGEST BUTT AROUND, GET READY FOR SOME poo poo!” or “YEAH I’M THE BUTT, AND YOU’RE TRYING TO gently caress ME!” or whatever, and I might be having a little fun with it because shouting silly things is funny, but I’m not sure it would count as being funny on purpose. If that was a bad example because I wrote this post while eating sunflower seeds then just imagine something funny in all caps instead of what’s there.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:1) That wasn't very funny Also Trump didn’t write that. It’s a prepared speech. You’ve heard what he sounds like when he’s speaking off the cuff. Disjointed, rambling weirdo bullshit. Trump isn’t (intentionally) funny. Sure it’s funny when he wants to nuke hurricanes or stare into eclipses but it would make him very angry to know that people laughed at those things.
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Aug 8, 2022 02:54
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mojo1701a posted:Also, the only version of Dan and Jordan's interview on CNN that I can find so far: Holy poo poo these guys suck
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Devils Affricate posted:Holy poo poo these guys suck you will not find many people agreeing with you in this thread kf is so good, but perhaps the live interview format doesn't work for them as well, idk
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Aug 8, 2022 03:22
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my cat is norris posted:you will not find many people agreeing with you in this thread nah Jordan sucks sorry Jordan fans
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Stefan Prodan posted:nah Jordan sucks sorry Jordan fans
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Auyyyeayyyeah it’s a thing about AJ YEEEAAAHHH
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my cat is norris posted:kf is so good, but perhaps the live interview format doesn't work for them as well, idk They were probably pretty hampered by not wanting to have too much fun at Alex's expense when this case is ultimately about getting justice for the families of murdered children. That's not really something you want to turn into a podcast ad when part of the issue is Alex turning dead kids into advertising. You could really see them actively avoiding opportunities to bring up wacky poo poo. Plus when you're going on for three hours in a podcast it's a lot easier to have enough "gently caress this guy and everything he stands for" to balance out all the making fun of Alex for saying he technically probably killed a guy. Dan looked nervous as hell tho, I'm shocked he agreed to do it.
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Jordan should be less shouty.
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TheMightyBoops posted:Jordan should be less shouty.
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TheMightyBoops posted:Jordan should be less shouty. He can shout to high heaven for all I care, so long as he stops doing it over clips. I generally think Jordan is pretty funny and he performs a good function, but him talking or screaming over the clips attacks the fundamental premise of the show cause I need to be able to hear what they're gonna discuss.
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The Moon Monster posted:I think the key is to have a strong support network of sane people. Bad news about the 21st century tho. Part of this I struggle with, buying into this stuff turns people so vile that the sane people nope out of their lives. I've just said gently caress it and ghosted a lot of folks that are into this stuff. This is probably by design. I always thought the whole "the way to argue with liberals is to never give them an inch, never give up any points, never admit fault" was more of a trained indoctrination than an effective arguing method. Teach them to never listen to anyone but you.
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SalTheBard posted:So I was typing this out on my phone and deleted it, but now that I can type it on my computer here we go: I forgot how many people got ensnared by Loose Change. I didn't realize at the time that it was a portent of things to come. The internet makes you stupid, but social media turned that dial to 11.
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vaginite posted:Part of this I struggle with, buying into this stuff turns people so vile that the sane people nope out of their lives. I've just said gently caress it and ghosted a lot of folks that are into this stuff. This is absolutely right. It's the same thing with Jehovah's Witnesses/etc., the door to door proselytizing is meant more to solidify the proselytizer's bond with the organization, if they do get new members through it that's great but it's not the primary goal.
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Stefan Prodan posted:nah Jordan sucks sorry Jordan fans I listened to a few episodes the last few days, mostly depositions, and while they're doing some great work, I don't like Jordan (with the caveat that this is based on 4 or so episodes). He virtually never has anything interesting to add. If anything his comments are often dumb and out of place. Dan otoh is insightful all the time. Either succinctly explaining things, or giving thoughtful analysis. I mean even his jokes are better. The podcast might not work as a one person endeavor, but I wish Jordan wasn't as obnoxious.
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I think Jones commented about the popularity he had with a more left-leaning audience several years ago and name dropped Google Video. Back in 2005-2008 or so Google Video offered up a simple 'download this video' option to quite a few videos. That bit of a wild west era had a LOT of fringe documentary stuff out there on the early days of streaming, too. I'm pretty sure that's where I first saw Alex Jones outside of Waking Life.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I think Jones commented about the popularity he had with a more left-leaning audience several years ago and name dropped Google Video. Back in 2005-2008 or so Google Video offered up a simple 'download this video' option to quite a few videos. That bit of a wild west era had a LOT of fringe documentary stuff out there on the early days of streaming, too. I'm pretty sure that's where I first saw Alex Jones outside of Waking Life. pretty sure that's how i first saw loose change (didn't watch the whole thing)
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Aug 8, 2022 04:39
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A weird thing about talking Alex Jones being funny is I am not sure he has ever genuinely laughed.
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Anything to look forward to tomorrow that is happening? CT court should lift the stay, right?
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Jordan gives Dan motivation to continue, probably, and that's all the stuff I need. Also he's less yelly on the episodes that he takes the wheel. But to be fair most of what Dan tells him warrants an 'endless screaming' feeling. Not that it makes for entertaining podcasts but: he's right, you know.
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Stefan Prodan posted:The time he mocked Rubio drinking water and then threw it over his shoulder was funny sorry 
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TheMightyBoops posted:Jordan should be less shouty. Deal w/ it nerd
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Jordan IS less shouty. He was slightly more unhinged in the first 200 episodes or so. I think they have a good balance now. Dan has the benefit of hearing everything ahead of time, researching and writing out his thoughts for us. Jordan is off the cuff. I don't think the show works without both and if you don't want to scream after hearing a lot of this stuff then idk.
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Jordan is the id of the podcast and his emotional outbursts are both relatable and cathartic. Dan is great and does great things but kf would be way too dry without Jordan there getting all worked up. They're both necessary and the kf falls apart when either of them isn't there.
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:They're both necessary and the kf falls apart when either of them isn't there. Yep. Listen to a couple eps when Dan is on his own and you'll appreciate the necessity of their dynamic. It's real boring. They make an excellent team.
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This doesn't change the fact that Jordan is pretty ignorant about a lot of stuff and sometimes needs to shut the gently caress up, but he's still integral and I wouldn't want the podcast without him.
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Grand Fromage posted:This doesn't change the fact that Jordan is pretty ignorant about a lot of stuff and sometimes needs to shut the gently caress up, but he's still integral and I wouldn't want the podcast without him. Jordan is that one kid who would be way more awesome if he shut up time to time. Fucker does own, just stop screeching so much.
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Neo Rasa posted:This is absolutely right. It's the same thing with Jehovah's Witnesses/etc., the door to door proselytizing is meant more to solidify the proselytizer's bond with the organization, if they do get new members through it that's great but it's not the primary goal. I haven't gone door to door in two years and have done barely any witnessing in the same time period. Doesn't change my belief that Jehovah's Witnesses have the best understanding of the Bible among any religion. If you dismiss the Bible entirely that's a different thing.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yep. Listen to a couple eps when Dan is on his own and you'll appreciate the necessity of their dynamic. It's real boring. They make an excellent team. Counterpoint: the episode that came out juuuust before this when Alex went on Steve Bannons show was solid and Dan kinda let loose for a bit, which was cool to see. Countercounterpoint: I still missed Jordan. Dan and Jordan to me are chocolate and peanuts. Simply dreamy when combined. Great individually when combined with other certain things; but not EVERYthing. And that’s fine. It ain’t for everyone. There is a certain dynamic to KF and Dan and Jordan’s approach that works incredibly well with me as a listener. It kind of mirrors my feelings towards Alex Jones and conspiratorial beliefs as a whole: I want to dismantle them methodically and with an incredible amount of evidence and common sense. I also want to express my intense frustration, anger and flat out sheer exhaustion with them and I’m tired of having to 
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Anywho, I’ve been wondering, what do we call the Alex Jones extended universe anyhow? Jonesverse, citizens of Jonestown, the GOP?
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teen witch posted:Anywho, I’ve been wondering, what do we call the Alex Jones extended universe anyhow? Jonesverse, citizens of Jonestown, the GOP? "hell"
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New KF has dropped and its guesting Mark and Bill, very excited to get into this one.
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KitConstantine posted:https://twitter.com/Hoolopee/status/1553818630139383808?t=q8oEyXwnsBQnEd4e5NnaTQ&s=19 
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Kinda sad to realize. as it's been pointed out, that if Bill Hicks was still alive he'd probably have become just as chuddy as the rest of the loud drug-taking cynical gently caress conspiracy theorist media industry. I can't think of anyone in the old "question everything" crowd that hasn't pivoted to being fash-adjacent by now. fake edit: and FFS just learned some dipshits believe Jones actually is Hicks! This is so loving stupid but at least it pisses Jones off, it actually upsets him for some reason.
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