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Jake Hager still has the distinction of being in the worst AEW World Championship match ever.
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MJeff posted:Jake Hager still has the distinction of being in the worst AEW World Championship match ever. It's obviously subjective but I'd say it's a competition with Omega/Rich Swann and Mox/Butcher, the latter of which I believe was the impetus for Butcher getting absolutely ripped because he felt like he got blown up in that match and didn't deliver because of it.
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Aug 10, 2022 19:44
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I don't think anyone would miss Hager, but I also can't argue that he's overused. He's just Jericho's big doofy bodyguard, he doesn't really do singles matches any more (except the Claudio one and I understand why you'd wanna do that one), and it's funny that JR still absolutely loves the guy. I also cannot for the life of me fathom someone saying WWE needs him or would use him better.
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Aug 10, 2022 19:52
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Dawgstar posted:I just realized I really dropped off Lucha Underground around the time Mil Muertes The Man Of A Thousand Deaths was sitting on his skull throne like he was the Puerto Rican Shao Khan. I think my cable package lost El Rey. Aw man you missed the entire run of THE MONSTER MATANZA CUETO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zZFN5DFTu8&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zMw_Kc4NzE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veKO3mbdXM0 Shard fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Aug 10, 2022 |
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Aug 10, 2022 20:01
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A Fancy Hat posted:I don't think anyone would miss Hager, but I also can't argue that he's overused. He's just Jericho's big doofy bodyguard, he doesn't really do singles matches any more (except the Claudio one and I understand why you'd wanna do that one), and it's funny that JR still absolutely loves the guy. They don’t need him but it would make it infinitely less likely I’d have to see his boring matches anymore, so he should go back ASAP
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Aug 10, 2022 20:17
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A Fancy Hat posted:I don't think anyone would miss Hager, but I also can't argue that he's overused. He's just Jericho's big doofy bodyguard, he doesn't really do singles matches any more (except the Claudio one and I understand why you'd wanna do that one), and it's funny that JR still absolutely loves the guy. poo poo, you'd think it would occur to them that they had him, and hosed him over just about each and every time he got momentum (the exception being his WM29 match. Hager can wear that one).
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Aug 10, 2022 20:18
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History Comes Inside! posted:They don’t need him but it would make it infinitely less likely I’d have to see his boring matches anymore, so he should go back ASAP AEW usually announces their matches before the show, so you have the option to avoid Hager.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:23
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Yeah but he might be in another sweet multi-man clusterfuck that I do want to watch despite him being there and then I’m trapped
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Aug 10, 2022 20:24
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Ganso Bomb posted:It's obviously subjective but I'd say it's a competition with Omega/Rich Swann and Mox/Butcher, the latter of which I believe was the impetus for Butcher getting absolutely ripped because he felt like he got blown up in that match and didn't deliver because of it. I may be wrong here but wasn't the Butcher match literally one week after he'd just gotten over COVID? I'm pretty sure that was a major part of the reason he was blown up. He did look great when he returned though.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:24
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has Hager even had more than like two or three singles matches on aew TV? I can think of the claudio one and the wardlow worked mma one
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Aug 10, 2022 20:30
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Hoss Corncave posted:I may be wrong here but wasn't the Butcher match literally one week after he'd just gotten over COVID? I'm pretty sure that was a major part of the reason he was blown up. He did look great when he returned though. Yes, might’ve even been less than a week.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:31
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Man, JD Drake looks terrible here.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:32
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flatluigi posted:has Hager even had more than like two or three singles matches on aew TV? I can think of the claudio one and the wardlow worked mma one + vs. Mox from an empty American Korakuen. + vs. Dustin Rhodes with the gross kiss spot. + that might be it. + some stuff on dark probably.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:34
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flatluigi posted:has Hager even had more than like two or three singles matches on aew TV? I can think of the claudio one and the wardlow worked mma one From his debut, his purely TV matches have been QT Marshall, Chico Adams, Mox (World Title), Cody (TNT Title), Wardlow, Brandon Cutler, Wardlow again (MMA rules), Eddie, and finally Claudio.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:35
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karmicknight posted:+ vs. Mox from an empty American Korakuen. Had a match against Eddie Kingston in June, against Cody for the TNT title back in 2020 and that's about it.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:36
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MJeff posted:Jake Hager still has the distinction of being in the worst AEW World Championship match ever. That match was actually good though, quality time with good ol’ JR.
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Aug 10, 2022 20:52
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A Fancy Hat posted:I don't think anyone would miss Hager, but I also can't argue that he's overused. He's just Jericho's big doofy bodyguard, he doesn't really do singles matches any more (except the Claudio one and I understand why you'd wanna do that one), and it's funny that JR still absolutely loves the guy. hager played for his favorite college football team so jr will always be a mark for him
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Aug 10, 2022 21:02
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Hoss Corncave posted:I may be wrong here but wasn't the Butcher match literally one week after he'd just gotten over COVID? I'm pretty sure that was a major part of the reason he was blown up. He did look great when he returned though. Might've been, I don't know if I knew he was coming off of COVID. I just remember it being another hot outdoor show in Florida and he seemed to definitely be suffering from that (in addition to post-COVID, apparently). It's maybe excused for being the worst title match because it was what pushed him to get into better shape, so everything worked out in the end. Found these quotes from him: quote:"It was 98 degrees that night," Butcher stated. "My two singles matches with AEW, one was against Mox. It was 98 degrees with a 100% humidity. Then my match with PAC, it was 27 degrees that night. Two different extremes but here's the thing, I got frustrated in a whole other way with that Mox match because I really wanted it, and I know that me and Mox would have great chemistry. And it was so easy to call the match. I didn't take anything into consideration. I didn't take the heat into consideration. I didn't take the fact that even though I didn't have symptoms of COVID, it still affected me. I was still fatigued, and I'm not making excuses, but it was a rough one.
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Aug 10, 2022 21:25
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flatluigi posted:has Hager even had more than like two or three singles matches on aew TV? I can think of the claudio one and the wardlow worked mma one I think he had a title match with Mox
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Aug 10, 2022 21:29
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What’s niacin for and damnit tell us this conditioning workout please, Butcher
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Aug 10, 2022 21:32
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It’s a vitamin supplement and if you take a bunch of it it makes you go all red and angry looking like he says. It can also gently caress your liver up but yolo.
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Aug 10, 2022 21:36
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niacin is a b vitamin and you make it. so don't take more unless you need to. or you want to. but you should want to for a reason. don't do it for no reason unless you want to. that's a reason
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Aug 10, 2022 21:56
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1557124010743238656?t=3c36emjAc8ak3AWovQesWg&s=19 Bit of dumbassary because who did not see this coming. I will say this in the dude's defence though, AEW storylines are so well paced and enjoyable that the long slow build was so good I'm almost sad they pulled the trigger entering the next phase See also; Hangman winning the title and Wardlow turning face.
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Aug 10, 2022 21:58
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Miller is a wrestler in the NXT system https://twitter.com/Winttxrr/status/1557461645043142662?s=20&t=mF8kD_c2pk07jK_0s0mmQA
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Aug 10, 2022 22:35
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TV Zombie posted:Miller is a wrestler in the NXT system  but of course, Sasha isn't Black enough for her
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Aug 10, 2022 22:53
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It's weird to see One Drop Doctrine done in reverse.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:04
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Yeah, gatekeeping biracial black people is sadly a thing. I remember when people were so desperate to call Kofi the first African American WWE Champion, they de-blacked the Rock.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:06
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Hager is so boring that I started watching AEW for the first time in November 2021 and I only realized he was Jack Swagger like a month ago, my entire experience with Hager has been "occasionally standing behind Jericho with arms crossed, not speaking" and the occasional match
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Aug 10, 2022 23:17
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HonorableTB posted:Hager is so boring that I started watching AEW for the first time in November 2021 and I only realized he was Jack Swagger like a month ago, my entire experience with Hager has been "occasionally standing behind Jericho with arms crossed, not speaking" and the occasional match That's basically all there is to him except sometimes he comes along with a killer match like the wardlo shoot fight
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Aug 10, 2022 23:24
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Kosmo Gallion posted:https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1557124010743238656?t=3c36emjAc8ak3AWovQesWg&s=19 It did share the same negative trait that a lot of AEW storytelling suffers from which is while the stories are told good there's often a limp pull of the trigger. Julia is another example. Everyone knew she was turning, was ready for it, and then it didn't happen that night it should have and now to be honest I can't remember off the top of my head when she actually did turn. They somehow are able to completely telegraph something but still make it feel like it came out of nowhere. And not in a good way.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:34
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HonorableTB posted:Hager is so boring that I started watching AEW for the first time in November 2021 and I only realized he was Jack Swagger like a month ago, my entire experience with Hager has been "occasionally standing behind Jericho with arms crossed, not speaking" and the occasional match I think he went through the entire infighting with the Inner Circle, the whole team meeting thing, the break-up, and the picking of sides without ever saying a single word.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:36
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Julia spit mist in PAC's face at Double or Nothing and it was perfect The turn itself was delayed partly because of Rey Fenix's injury
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Aug 10, 2022 23:36
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i can sort of understand saying the turn felt "rushed" simply because cole fish and kylo had been off tv since forbidden door, and then came back and immediately turned, but it felt to me like more of a "welp, we can't wait on guys to get healthy, we just have to get it overwith"
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Aug 10, 2022 23:41
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The only reason it feels "rushed" is because Cole was being proactive against the Bucks, not reactive.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:43
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1glitch0 posted:It did share the same negative trait that a lot of AEW storytelling suffers from which is while the stories are told good there's often a limp pull of the trigger. Julia is another example. Everyone knew she was turning, was ready for it, and then it didn't happen that night it should have and now to be honest I can't remember off the top of my head when she actually did turn. There was a false start to Julia turning, where she was going to hit Griff or Pillman with a chair but didn't. She appeared at DoN and spat black mist at PAC, finally turning.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:43
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Kosmo Gallion posted:There was a false start to Julia turning, where she was going to hit Griff or Pillman with a chair but didn't. She appeared at DoN and spat black mist at PAC, finally turning. I remember the false start, forgot about PAC. Shoulda been against the Blondes
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Aug 10, 2022 23:55
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Julia not turning on the Blondes made her appearing out of nowhere to mist PAC after everyone thought her story was over way better
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Aug 10, 2022 23:56
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Malakai talked a bit about the timing of that angle in an interview and said he specifically didn't want to do it during the Blonds segment because he didn't want to give people what they wanted.
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Aug 10, 2022 23:57
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it's funnier that she didn't bother to turn on the blonds because they're now beneath her notice or attention as they whine about her
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It also leaves the door open for future angles with the Blonds, which I hope they never do
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