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TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

I think in general ppl should stop worrying about short probes or lack of probes as some official policy line of the forums staff. Like if you’re being weird in a thread sometimes you may get a bad shoot, and sometimes people will post bad poo poo and go unpunished. Its an Internet Forum we’re not drafting the official constitution of the fifth international in here.

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docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

TheSlutPit posted:

I think in general ppl should stop worrying about short probes or lack of probes as some official policy line of the forums staff. Like if you’re being weird in a thread sometimes you may get a bad shoot, and sometimes people will post bad poo poo and go unpunished. Its an Internet Forum we’re not drafting the official constitution of the fifth international in here.

We're not...oh.

I have to make some calls.

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

We're still insisting that the mods Free Larry, despite Jeffrey himself saying it's not happening. Unpopular calls are gonna stick with you and you learn to roll with it (ex a thread IK hitting, I think, How are u with a sixer every time someone said "Free Larry") or burn out under the pressure.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Azathoth posted:

Personally, I thought the sequence of posts that led to the probe was gross and what NHD put through was appropriate, but like him I also don't read the thread.

Why it strikes me as a bad probe is that it seems to come from a place of projecting the worst possible intentions onto a poster.

One of the nice things about cspam is we usually don't do that, and let people post it out. So yeah I don't agree on this one, it kinda sucks and feels like the same sort of bad faith reading that someone would use to target a posting enemy or whatever

I'm sure it wasn't that motivation but still looked like a bad call. Drop in the pond tho. CSPAM still mostly on the up and up tyvm

speng31b has issued a correction as of 04:18 on Aug 11, 2022

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
free fly molo

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

Lib and let die posted:

We're still insisting that the mods Free Larry, despite Jeffrey himself saying it's not happening. Unpopular calls are gonna stick with you and you learn to roll with it (ex a thread IK hitting, I think, How are u with a sixer every time someone said "Free Larry") or burn out under the pressure.

To clarify I’m referring to stuff like sixers and not more serious punishments that effectively remove people from posting for extended/indefinite periods

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

Azathoth posted:

interesting :words:

hmm, okay! thanks!

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
I reluctantly am gay

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Weka posted:

The most recent one of these was Majorian telling someone not to baselessly accuse someone of racism, which is in fact good.
I'm also a fan of their mod challenging people from GBS or D&D who pop in to justify their claims. And I like that they tend towards just asking people rather than probing people.

That wasn’t it at all. You can check the posts around them, no one was complaining. If you like debating there is an entire sub forum you can post in.


Majorian posted:

Stop posting like this. That goes for everyone. I'm not going to welcome weird bitchy sniping at each other here. If you want to keep doing that, gently caress off to another thread please.

\/\/\/If you want a vision of the future, imagine an rear end farting on a goon face – forever.\/\/\/

Majorian posted:

Hey, if it bothers you don't post here.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

paul_soccer12 posted:

I reluctantly am gay

glad to have you here secretary buttigeig

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Azathoth posted:

glad to have you here secretary buttigeig

I'm gunna chain probe you for a month for this homophobia

--pete_gaywad12

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

That wasn’t it at all. You can check the posts around them, no one was complaining. If you like debating there is an entire sub forum you can post in.

The first one there was in response to this. Which is exactly the same poo poo you've been rightly complaining about happening to you.

fanfic insert posted:

but youre assuming mlmp88 values testimony of white and pure ukrainians the same as filthy mongrel russians

clearly evidence weights differently.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
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Weka posted:

The first one there was in response to this. Which is exactly the same poo poo you've been rightly complaining about happening to you.

Bro he’s being facetious. How on earth can’t you tell that? You even post in that same thread.

AnimeIsTrash has issued a correction as of 04:39 on Aug 11, 2022

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Do you get upset at every post where someone talks about orcs in the Russian context?

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Calibanibal posted:

Majorian is really good at being an IK and I dont think paul would be nearly as good at being an IK. On the other hand I thought NeatHeteroDude was a cringe dweeb but they have proven to be a very good moderator and we're really close friends now so maybe I'm not the best at judging these things

:bighow:

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

demod and ban NHD, for being cringe

This, but all mods and admins

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

demod and ban NHD, for being cringe

https://twitter.com/unclefathers/status/1556782544137453569?t=TyUMMkH6o9hAxkzhL7Gu5g&s=19

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

free larry

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
a free larry with every happy meal, with a chance at a shiny larry

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


will trade three booster packs for one foil larry

Marzzle
Dec 1, 2004

Bursting with flavor

if you like your larry plan, you can keep it! even with a single larry universal system

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Bro he’s being facetious. How on earth can’t you tell that? You even post in that same thread.

poo poo you're right. I don't know how I missed that beyond waking up high. Ooops.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Buck Wildman posted:

will trade three booster packs for one foil larry

it's easy to foil Larry, just put things on a high shelf

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Brain Candy posted:

i know i've poked at this before but your star is a different color now

the problem is reports generate work and this makes mods/admins want to make it stop. the easiest thing right now is to ban the poster. finding out there is a daily report limit that is regularly hit by some posters blew my mind. randomize it and if someone hits it, ban them. rig it to a detonator

set the mean to be 999th in D&D because that's their way and like 2 in CSPAM

given all the other insane poo poo that slips by without getting reported i think you are looking at the wrong signal

by far the easiest way to deal with a report is to do nothing, not to ban somebody. And absolutely nobody is hitting the report limit in CSPAM the way they are in D&D, no matter what D&D mods claim when they're trolling about what the report forum looks like. I've been a mod for a year and the only times I've seen the report forum filled with CSPAM reports is when there's some kind of meltdown going on in a thread, and then it's pretty much always ten different people all reporting the same poster who's melting down, not one person maxing out their reports trying to get us to ban their posting enemies.

Reports are really useful because CSPAM is such a big and active forum. Even with a big mod team, things fall through the cracks - maybe the mod who usually reads a thread is away, maybe it's a less-trafficked thread and it hasn't been checked on in a while, etc. In those cases, a report means somebody is guaranteed to look at the problem and do something about it, even if that's just reading the context and saying "this isn't actually as bad as the report made it seem, no action necessary". To bring in this post:

The Voice of Labor posted:

do we really need a report button?

we've got qcs and the mods have pms. like, if someone's posting chipmunk porn or whatever there's ways to get that taken care of or completely ignored other than a prominent I don't like thing button. I mean, if you give people the option of reporting, quoting, posting or replying and report is the first option out of four, of course cretins will abuse it.

from the other end, I like it that reports exist, and I can tell you that generally speaking, people aren't abusing reports in CSPAM. When they do, it's pretty obvious, and we try pretty hard not to punish people just because a posting enemy went digging for something bad they said. I wouldn't like the idea of things only being reported in PMs, because as we all know, PMs can get lost and not read, or maybe they decided to PM a mod who's on vacation and it goes unseen for two weeks, or whatever. A report generates an actual visible thing on the mod side that everybody can see, and guarantees somebody is going to see it, otherwise it just sits there annoying the admins.

but really, people aren't abusing reports in CSPAM. There are two reports in the reports forum right now and they're both jokes, not serious things people wanted somebody banned over. Today's the 11th of August and if I look back through the forums for cleared reports I can see that since August 1st we've dealt with 67 reports, so about 6-7 a day. That's a steady stream, but a pretty slow one given the size of our forum. I would compare it to how many D&D gets, but I'm stupid and can't count that high.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
oh, also the most recent case I can remember where somebody maxed out their reports, they were going apeshit over somebody else trolling their favourite thread and in the reports they were calling us names and demanding to be made IK of the thread so they could rule it with an iron fist, and then like a week later they got banned for something completely unrelated

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

vyelkin posted:

oh, also the most recent case I can remember where somebody maxed out their reports, they were going apeshit over somebody else trolling their favourite thread and in the reports they were calling us names and demanding to be made IK of the thread so they could rule it with an iron fist, and then like a week later they got banned for something completely unrelated

Wow DV can catch a ban

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

vyelkin posted:

oh, also the most recent case I can remember where somebody maxed out their reports, they were going apeshit over somebody else trolling their favourite thread and in the reports they were calling us names and demanding to be made IK of the thread so they could rule it with an iron fist, and then like a week later they got banned for something completely unrelated

Lmfao was this judakel or someone in the climate change thread?

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

free cumshitter
free fly molo
free Larry
free catpetter1981
free Crazy Cloud

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Filthy Hans posted:

free cumshitter
free fly molo
free Larry
free catpetter1981
free Crazy Cloud

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004


Ash come get your boy

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Crazy Cloud's been free for ages, for better or worse.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

I would feel more comfortable if we had kept the CATPETTER emergent AI where we could observe its development but I guess it's too late now.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Azathoth posted:



We should have dealt with Alec quicker than we did and I personally should have been more aggressive in handling his creepy behavior and not trying to get him to reform. Either of those would have headed off the impending meltdown.

from yesterday but if all that is true, cumshitter was really justified in being freaked out and wanting to do something about it, and I was no fan of either poster

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

grieving for Gandalf posted:

from yesterday but if all that is true, cumshitter was really justified in being freaked out and wanting to do something about it, and I was no fan of either poster

i will represent cumshitter in forums court. i will lay out a self-defense argument.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

Lib and let die posted:

i will represent cumshitter in forums court. i will lay out a self-defense argument.

thank you.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Lib and let die posted:

i will represent cumshitter in forums court. i will lay out a self-defense argument.

gently caress yes!

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Another day still no ik badge on paul_soccer12. :(

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

grieving for Gandalf posted:

from yesterday but if all that is true, cumshitter was really justified in being freaked out and wanting to do something about it, and I was no fan of either poster

He was justified in freaking out, he was not justified in doxxing or threatening to doxx.

Also, just to be clear, Alec did confirm he was not actually doxxed as a result of it but I do not know if that was because cumshitter had bad info or because he didn't try or both.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Azathoth posted:

Also, just to be clear, Alec did confirm he was not actually doxxed as a result of it but I do not know if that was because cumshitter had bad info or because he didn't try or both.

the prosecution's case falls apart before our very eyes as "banned for doxxing" becomes "banned for pretend doxxing"

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speng31b
May 8, 2010

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Another day still no ik badge on paul_soccer12. :(

i think maybe people are assuming it's an unserious suggestion?

Fwiw i think Paul soccer would be a good IK. He's a good poster who has a good sense of what's deranged and what's not, which is probably what's most important in an ik anyways

That said i also think majorian is also a good IK, so I'm not saying dethrone anyone. But if there's room at the table Paul soccer should be actually considered, think he'd do good

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