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Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Cabbages and Kings posted:

It's been suggested to me by several actual MDs over the years, that as a chronically anxious person with muscle tension issues I might benefit from magnesium supplementation. This seems to be true. However, digging into this (when I was like 24, so, early '00s, I may have early posts about this poo poo here) led me to find out that:

* leafy green vegetables are a traditional source of dietary magnesium for the West
* the amount of magnesium in a serving is based on FDA numbers which may not have been updated within my lifetime
* it is thought that poor farming practices have substantially reduced soil magnesium, in turn making traditionally magnesium-rich foods, not that
* there seems to be basically zero data on the actual, current nutritional content of almost anything

this was a and one of the first things that made me think "wait if this is completely hosed on the national level and has known health effects but no one is even attempting to understand the problem, then......"

I also have GAD with muscle tension and you're not the first to suggest magnesium deficiency as cause - apparently cause for a great number of ills, as per some people I know. I was recommended 400-600mg with L-theanine in 1:1 ratio daily before bed. It seemed to help some but ultimately I never developed the nightly habit so I can't say. My results were middling and I was told to increase the supplemental magnesium but I never tried.

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Euronymous: Jul 19, 2022

Doomers are useless, and potentially as dangerous as deniers. The second against the wall will be those that didn't try to do anything because they were too sad

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:10

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Aha well I think you'll find hundreds of hours of posting labor under my belt

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:12

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Euronymous posted:

Doomers are useless, and potentially as dangerous as deniers. The second against the wall will be those that didn't try to do anything because they were too sad

i'm sad to report the wall has melted down under the summer heat

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:12

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

Oh you wrote "didn't do anything [but post really good] because they were sad" disregard as that was not the reason

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:13

Cromulent_Chill: Apr 6, 2009

Euronymous posted:

Doomers are useless, and potentially as dangerous as deniers. The second against the wall will be those that didn't try to do anything because they were too sad

There is no individual solution to this poo poo so no, gently caress this bullshit. It's not sadness, it's a realistic outlook of the fall of society as we know it based on probable events.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:14

CRUSTY MINGE: Mar 30, 2011; Peggy Hill
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Truga posted:

i'm sad to report the wall has melted down under the summer heat

The Saudis are working on that.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:17

Mirthless: Mar 27, 2011; by the sex ghost

Cabbages and Kings posted:

It's been suggested to me by several actual MDs over the years, that as a chronically anxious person with muscle tension issues I might benefit from magnesium supplementation. This seems to be true. However, digging into this (when I was like 24, so, early '00s, I may have early posts about this poo poo here) led me to find out that:

* leafy green vegetables are a traditional source of dietary magnesium for the West
* the amount of magnesium in a serving is based on FDA numbers which may not have been updated within my lifetime
* it is thought that poor farming practices have substantially reduced soil magnesium, in turn making traditionally magnesium-rich foods, not that
* there seems to be basically zero data on the actual, current nutritional content of almost anything

this was a and one of the first things that made me think "wait if this is completely hosed on the national level and has known health effects but no one is even attempting to understand the problem, then......"

i went down the magnesium rabbit hole when I was doing the keto diet in 2012 and had the same reaction

there's a lot of diseases that are Completely Unique to Western Society and then you find out the american diet is basically devoid of potassium or magnesium or most essential nutrients and there's basically no supplement that is a functional replacement for dietary sources of those nutrients, and getting dietary sources of those nutrients is hard...

We also have a diet that is often insanely high in the wrong types of calcium so many americans gobble up a calcium supplement and eat a calcium rich diet and somehow still end up calcium deficient because none of the calcium is absorbing

edit: and just loving try to meet your daily potassium needs with food, you need to eat three loving cups of nuts a day! Possibly way more if they're lovely nuts! It may be impossible if they're processed! wild nuts were a primary staple for hunter-gatherers in virtually every culture prior to agrarianism, now our stomachs are so loving weak you throw up if you eat a single 8 oz bag of pistachios

there's a reason the clean living people are so loving crazy, there's no way to stare into the black mirror of the nutrition label and not see the horror of the dietary prison we have built for ourselves, a panopticon of relentless suffering and unaccounted misery

Mirthless has issued a correction as of 16:42 on Aug 12, 2022

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Rauros: Aug 25, 2004; wanna go grub thumping?

Truga posted:

this has been known for a while now, basically in less than 20 years the exclusion zone got completely reclaimed by nature/wildlife, to the point where it's the healthiest ecosystem in the world just because humans don't go there

the same thing has happened around the fukushima plant too

the other factor is that most large wildlife protection areas in temperate regions are in marginal habitats (i.e., mountains) that are not that productive due to harsh environmental conditions, while we took all the pleasant, arable land for ourselves.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:20

Perry Mason Jar: Feb 24, 2006; "Della? Take a lid"

https://twitter.com/charlottor/status/1558096555713994758

# ? Aug 12, 2022 16:23

Mirthless: Mar 27, 2011; by the sex ghost

Truga posted:

this has been known for a while now, basically in less than 20 years the exclusion zone got completely reclaimed by nature/wildlife, to the point where it's the healthiest ecosystem in the world just because humans don't go there

the same thing has happened around the fukushima plant too

Animals in the exclusion zones seem to have shorter lifespans and higher rates of birth defects but that seems to get entirely offset by the reduced loss of life due to human encroachment, so if anything the high rates of cancer and stillbirths are acting as evolutionary pressure and animals seem to be adapting better generation by generation

It's odd that a hopeful future for Earth is total nuclear annihilation of the human race, but the exclusion zones give me hope

Mirthless has issued a correction as of 16:43 on Aug 12, 2022

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Oglethorpe: Aug 8, 2005

farmers in the UK are expecting half of their potato, onion, and carrot crops to fail because of heat and drought

4 day extreme heat warning

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:07

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Mirthless posted:

Animals in the exclusion zones seem to have shorter lifespans and higher rates of birth defects but that seems to get entirely offset by the reduced loss of life due to human encroachment, so if anything the high rates of cancer and stillbirths are acting as evolutionary pressure and animals seem to be adapting better generation by generation

It's odd that a hopeful future for Earth is total nuclear annihilation of the human race, but the exclusion zones give me hope

I ended up going down a rabbit hole on this topic yesterday, here's what I found:

"UN Environmental Programme - How Chernobyl has become an unexpected haven for wildlife posted:

16 Sep 2020 | Story | Nature

How Chernobyl has become an unexpected haven for wildlife

Many people think the area around the Chernobyl nuclear plant is a place of post-apocalyptic desolation. But more than 30 years after one of the facility�s reactors exploded, sparking the worst nuclear accident in human history, science tells us something very different.

Researchers have found the land surrounding the plant, which has been largely off limits to humans for three decades, has become a haven for wildlife, with lynx, bison, deer and other animals roaming through thick forests. This so-called Chernobyl Exclusion Zone (CEZ), which covers 2,800 square km of northern Ukraine, now represents the third-largest nature reserve in mainland Europe and has become an iconic � if accidental � experiment in rewilding.

UNEP is working with Ukraine�s Ministry of Ecology and Natural Resources and the State Agency on the CEZ to support that renaissance. A six-year project, launched in 2015 and funded by the Global Environment Facility (GEF), titled Conserving, Enhancing and Managing Carbon Stocks and Biodiversity in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, has helped establish a national biosphere reserve around Chernobyl, says UNEP coordinator for Europe Mahir Aliyev, who is managing the project.

A black grouse in the area around the Chernobyl nuclear plant, the site of the worst nuclear accident in human history. Photo by Nick Beresford

Teams have worked closely with the Polesskiy Radiological Reserve in neighbouring Belarus, which was also affected by the Chernobyl disaster, creating a transboundary protected area. �Both reserves will allow natural forest to help cleanse contaminated land and waterways,� says Aliyev.

In the spring of 1986, Chernobyl�s #4 reactor caught fire and exploded, sending a plume of radiation into the atmosphere. The disaster forced more than 100,000 people from their homes. A 30-kilometre exclusion zone was created around the reactor leaving two large towns, as well as more than 100 villages and farms, empty.

But most of the radioactivity released from the reactor decayed rapidly. Within a month, only a few per cent of the initial contamination remained and after a year this dropped to less than 1 per cent.

Research in the Belarussian sector of the exclusion zone found that boar, elk and roe deer populations exploded between 1987 and 1996. By the mid-1990s, wolves were so plentiful they were becoming a nuisance to farmers.

A host of animals, including Eurasian lynx, have return to the Chernobyl area. Photo by UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology

�Our research with Belarussian colleagues has found mammal populations in the reserve similar to other nature reserves in the region,� says James Smith from the School of Environmental, Geographical and Geological Sciences, University of Portsmouth in the United Kingdom. �Wolf numbers are seven times higher, likely due to much lower hunting pressure in the CEZ.�

Smith, together with Nick Beresford from the UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology, has conducted extensive research on wildlife in the area.

�Our camera trap surveys in Ukraine have photographed Eurasian lynx, brown bear, black storks and European bison. Ukrainian and Belarussian researchers have recorded hundreds of plant and animal species in the zone, including more than 60 [rare] species,� says Beresford.

Wild boar have multiplied in the exclusion zone. Photo by UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology

Sergiy Zibtsev, a forestry expert at the National University of Life and Environmental Sciences of Ukraine, says it�s ironic that it�s taken a nuclear accident to create a richer forest ecosystem in the CEZ. �The pine plantations that were there in 1986 have given way to more biodiverse primary forests, which are more resilient to climate change and wildfires and better able to sequester carbon,� he says.

One of the main goals of the UNEP-GEF project, which focuses equally on flora and fauna, is to help the Government of Ukraine develop policies to reverse environmental degradation and prevent future man-made disasters. It also aims to address Sustainable Development Goal 15, which calls on countries to sustainably manage forests, combat desertification, reverse land degradation and halt biodiversity loss.

�Nature�s resilience can buffer human societies from disasters,� says Christophersen. �As we head towards the UN Decade on Ecosystem Restoration, and especially in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, we need to remember that natural ecosystems are essential for human health and well-being.�

Johan Robinson, head of UNEP�s GEF Biodiversity and Land Degradation Unit, adds: �COVID-19 has taught us that life on Earth is interconnected. As a dominant species in the web of interaction, people have a huge responsibility to get it right. In the exclusion zone, this includes taking into account biodiversity conservation, carbon sequestration and sustainable land management while managing this landscape. The project is helping the Government of Ukraine to attain this know-how.�

Imagine what good we would be able to do for the biosphere if we just "left room for nature." :unsmith:

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:08

Pryor on Fire: May 14, 2013; they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Oglethorpe posted:

farmers in the UK are expecting half of their potato, onion, and carrot crops to fail because of heat and drought

4 day extreme heat warning

Excuse me but thread is celebrating Chernobyl because it keeps humans out of the animals back yard, this is not the time for real news. Read the room.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:10

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Oglethorpe posted:

farmers in the UK are expecting half of their potato, onion, and carrot crops to fail because of heat and drought

4 day extreme heat warning

lmao rain island ran outta rain

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:13

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

Perry Mason Jar posted:

https://twitter.com/charlottor/status/1558096555713994758

maybe there won't be adequate food after all

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:14

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

maybe there won't be adequate food after all

mods, ban this malthusian ecofascist

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:15

Mirthless: Mar 27, 2011; by the sex ghost

Hubbert posted:

I ended up going down a rabbit hole on this topic yesterday, here's what I found:

Imagine what good we would be able to do for the biosphere if we just "left room for nature."

A couple of years ago I got laughed outta C-Spam for suggesting that investing in projects like this was a more worthwhile use of our energy than handwringing over climate treaties or what is happening in brazil

It's very hard to get people to get on board with a solution that is, essentially, "Ignore what everyone else is doing so you can prepare and exclude a large portion of your own land, expressly to not be used, so that someone in five generations may reap the benefit of having a functioning biosphere", but I think the only real way to save our ecosystem is to do whatever we can to re-seed it, and then permanently exclude it effectively forever; The exclusion zones are proof of this concept if nothing else

Extend Yellowstone into a giant bubble the size of five states and take any loving plant we're worried about in a compatible ecosystem and deliberately invade our ecosytem with it before abandoning it for a century, let the great grandkids see what we get when we're done

I don't think any realistic solution to any pressing climate issue that exists today has a solution that is executable in our lifetimes and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. We've gotta be planting seeds for the future, at this point I mean that literally

Mirthless has issued a correction as of 17:30 on Aug 12, 2022

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:24

Tempora Mutantur: Feb 22, 2005

Mirthless posted:

A couple of years ago I got laughed outta C-Spam for suggesting that investing in projects like this was a more worthwhile use of our energy than handwringing over climate treaties or what is happening in brazil

It's very hard to get people to get on board with a solution that is, essentially, "Ignore what everyone else is doing so you can prepare and exclude a large portion of your own land, expressly to not be used, so that someone in five generations may reap the benefit of having a functioning biosphere", but I think the only real way to save our ecosystem is to do whatever we can to re-seed it, and then permanently exclude it effectively forever; The exclusion zones are proof of this concept if nothing else

Extend Yellowstone into a giant bubble the size of five states and take any loving plant we're worried about in a compatible ecosystem and deliberately invade our ecosytem with it before abandoning it for a century, let the great grandkids see what we get when we're done

I don't think any realistic solution to any pressing climate issue that exists today has a solution that is executable in our lifetimes and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. We've gotta be planting seeds for the future, at this point I mean that literally

multigenerational movements are an incredible concept

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:37

Tungsten: Aug 10, 2004; Your Working Boy

Tempora Mutantur posted:

multigenerational movements are an incredible concept

and we have a working example in front of us in the form of american fascists

# ? Aug 12, 2022 17:51

Cromulent_Chill: Apr 6, 2009

Tungsten posted:

and we have a working example in front of us in the form of american fascists

The business plot happened over 50 years successfully.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 18:00

Bathtub Cheese: Jun 15, 2008; I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.

Cabbages and Kings posted:

It's been suggested to me by several actual MDs over the years, that as a chronically anxious person with muscle tension issues I might benefit from magnesium supplementation. This seems to be true. However, digging into this (when I was like 24, so, early '00s, I may have early posts about this poo poo here) led me to find out that:

* leafy green vegetables are a traditional source of dietary magnesium for the West
* the amount of magnesium in a serving is based on FDA numbers which may not have been updated within my lifetime
* it is thought that poor farming practices have substantially reduced soil magnesium, in turn making traditionally magnesium-rich foods, not that
* there seems to be basically zero data on the actual, current nutritional content of almost anything

this was a and one of the first things that made me think "wait if this is completely hosed on the national level and has known health effects but no one is even attempting to understand the problem, then......"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPN7EvbrCp0

# ? Aug 12, 2022 18:02

take_it_slow: Jul 7, 2011

Hubbert posted:

if anyone has any good contemporary book recommendations please let me know, thank you

Energy and Ambitions on a Finite Planet - Murphy, Tom - textbook by the Do The Math guy - quite elementary, but a good introduction to the various non-fossil fuel energy sources. I found it informative, and would consider it a good recommendation to introduce neophytes/ persuade techno-optimists.

I haven't read any of these but they have all been recommended (or at least discussed) in circles similar to this'n:

Hothouse Earth: An Inhabitant�s Guide - McGuire, Bill
Negotiating Climate Change in Crisis - B�hm, Steffen; Sullivan, Sian
The Arctic Fox Cometh - Orlov, Dmitry
Perilous Bounty: The Looming Collapse of American Farming and How We Can Prevent It - Philpott, Tom
Upheaval - Diamond, Jared
How Everything Can Collapse: A Manual for our Times - Servigne, Pablo; Stevens, Rapha�l
Before the Collapse: A Guide to the Other Side of Growth - Bardi, Ugo
Unprecedented: Can Civilization Survive The CO2 Crisis? - Griffin, David Ray
Enviromedics: The Impact of Climate Change on Human Health - Lemery, Jay; Auerbach, Paul

some unique recent suggestions in this thread: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1412.msg330789.html
Lots of contemporary books reviewed here: https://www.resilience.org/ (note - site doesn't have a book review tag; recommend https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=review%20site%3Aresilience.org as a substitute...)

# ? Aug 12, 2022 18:37

Complications: Jun 19, 2014

Cabbages and Kings posted:

* the amount of magnesium in a serving is based on FDA numbers which may not have been updated within my lifetime
* there seems to be basically zero data on the actual, current nutritional content of almost anything

this was a and one of the first things that made me think "wait if this is completely hosed on the national level and has known health effects but no one is even attempting to understand the problem, then......"

Mirthless posted:

i went down the magnesium rabbit hole when I was doing the keto diet in 2012 and had the same reaction

there's a lot of diseases that are Completely Unique to Western Society and then you find out the american diet is basically devoid of potassium or magnesium or most essential nutrients and there's basically no supplement that is a functional replacement for dietary sources of those nutrients, and getting dietary sources of those nutrients is hard...

We also have a diet that is often insanely high in the wrong types of calcium so many americans gobble up a calcium supplement and eat a calcium rich diet and somehow still end up calcium deficient because none of the calcium is absorbing

edit: and just loving try to meet your daily potassium needs with food, you need to eat three loving cups of nuts a day! Possibly way more if they're lovely nuts! It may be impossible if they're processed! wild nuts were a primary staple for hunter-gatherers in virtually every culture prior to agrarianism, now our stomachs are so loving weak you throw up if you eat a single 8 oz bag of pistachios

there's a reason the clean living people are so loving crazy, there's no way to stare into the black mirror of the nutrition label and not see the horror of the dietary prison we have built for ourselves, a panopticon of relentless suffering and unaccounted misery

what

no

what?

nooooo

lol

lmao

# ? Aug 12, 2022 18:58

kater: Nov 16, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/MadiHilly/status/1557399862915776515

wait this seems odd why would a nuclear incident get so much glamorization when these other industries caused more harm

# ? Aug 12, 2022 19:00

The Voice of Labor: Apr 8, 2020

be serious. if we have to recognize bhopal we'd have to recognize indian people as human we wouldn't be able to hold up winston churchil as the greatest american since ronald reagan

# ? Aug 12, 2022 19:34

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

take_it_slow posted:

Energy and Ambitions on a Finite Planet - Murphy, Tom - textbook by the Do The Math guy - quite elementary, but a good introduction to the various non-fossil fuel energy sources. I found it informative, and would consider it a good recommendation to introduce neophytes/ persuade techno-optimists.

I haven't read any of these but they have all been recommended (or at least discussed) in circles similar to this'n:

Hothouse Earth: An Inhabitant’s Guide - McGuire, Bill

Negotiating Climate Change in Crisis - Böhm, Steffen; Sullivan, Sian

The Arctic Fox Cometh - Orlov, Dmitry

Perilous Bounty: The Looming Collapse of American Farming and How We Can Prevent It - Philpott, Tom

Upheaval - Diamond, Jared

How Everything Can Collapse: A Manual for our Times - Servigne, Pablo; Stevens, Raphaël

Before the Collapse: A Guide to the Other Side of Growth - Bardi, Ugo

Unprecedented: Can Civilization Survive The CO2 Crisis? - Griffin, David Ray

Enviromedics: The Impact of Climate Change on Human Health - Lemery, Jay; Auerbach, Paul

some unique recent suggestions in this thread: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1412.msg330789.html
Lots of contemporary books reviewed here: https://www.resilience.org/ (note - site doesn't have a book review tag; recommend https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=review%20site%3Aresilience.org as a substitute...)

Thank you!!!

# ? Aug 12, 2022 19:35

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

God Hole posted:

got real high last night and found myself thinking about how cool it is that we only ever get the one body during our lifetime so we have no frame of reference for what it's like to not have a bunch of teflon coursing through our veins or what it's like to have a nice wrinkly brain that hasn't been shredded by microplastics/covid. is this ennui a result of my deteriorating material conditions or because i've had a slight magnesium deficiency for ten years?

just a bunch of frogs sitting in a pot on the burner, scouring unreliable memories and wondering if it's always felt like this

Cabbages and Kings posted:

It's been suggested to me by several actual MDs over the years, that as a chronically anxious person with muscle tension issues I might benefit from magnesium supplementation. This seems to be true. However, digging into this (when I was like 24, so, early '00s, I may have early posts about this poo poo here) led me to find out that:

* leafy green vegetables are a traditional source of dietary magnesium for the West
* the amount of magnesium in a serving is based on FDA numbers which may not have been updated within my lifetime
* it is thought that poor farming practices have substantially reduced soil magnesium, in turn making traditionally magnesium-rich foods, not that
* there seems to be basically zero data on the actual, current nutritional content of almost anything

this was a and one of the first things that made me think "wait if this is completely hosed on the national level and has known health effects but no one is even attempting to understand the problem, then......"

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:05

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

i just drink magnesium mine tailings to bridge the gap

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:08

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

heavy metals are the unsung heroes of human biochemistry

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:08

theCalamity: Oct 23, 2010; Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War

https://twitter.com/grist/status/1558157372165705730?s=21&t=i9IM54niWHPI1ksEHIHR8A

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:14

Alamani57: Dec 15, 2010

While the models were sophisticated enough to accurately measure lols they insufficiently predicted lmaos, thus dooming the species.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:19

Deep Dish Fuckfest: Sep 6, 2006; Advanced
Computer Touching; Toilet Rascal

theCalamity posted:

https://twitter.com/grist/status/1558157372165705730?s=21&t=i9IM54niWHPI1ksEHIHR8A

simpsons_say_line_climate.jpg

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:24

Cabbages and VHS: Aug 25, 2004; Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

heavy metals are the unsung heroes of human biochemistry

I think you've confused them with chelating agents?

Alamani57 posted:

While the models were sophisticated enough to accurately measure lols they insufficiently predicted lmaos, thus dooming the species.

the real tragedy was finding out there was a hard limit to the lols, but the cringe was bottomless

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:24

Tempora Mutantur: Feb 22, 2005

perhaps we can harness cringe as energy? just spitballing here

not gonna suggest something insane like abandoning the profit motive lol

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:27

Real hurthling!: Sep 11, 2001

trees are dumb. they should be way better at growing and not dying

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:27

r u ready to WALK: Sep 29, 2001

who needs boring trees when you can just cover the entire ocean with blue and green algae

# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:31

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Well alright, if there's no magnesium in our food anymore then where the gently caress did it all go?

# ? Aug 12, 2022 21:21

Trainee PornStar: Jul 20, 2006; I'm just an inbetweener

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Well alright, if there's no magnesium in our food anymore then where the gently caress did it all go?

Probably something to do with not leaving fields 'fallow' every 3rd year or so instead of using fossil fuel fertilisers.

# ? Aug 12, 2022 21:29

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# ? May 24, 2024 15:05

Complications: Jun 19, 2014

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Well alright, if there's no magnesium in our food anymore then where the gently caress did it all go?

Well, if the magnesium goes into us and our livestock then the logical next question is where does our waste go and where did it used to go?

# ? Aug 12, 2022 21:32

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