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Erik Ten Uous
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 05:14 |
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Imagining an alternate history where utd kept ole and brought Declan rice and ended up being arsenal/tottenham levels of kinda decent. Or hell, even getting Antonio Conte in.
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frank de bald
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Andres Villas Boas to Man Utd when? Or bugger eating Joachim Low
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Simiain posted:Imagining an alternate history where utd kept ole and brought Declan rice and ended up being arsenal/tottenham levels of kinda decent. Sliding doors moment was losing the EL on penalties imo. A win there could have galvanised the team, as it was Ole was painted as a serial loser and everything fell to poo poo.
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Who would have to go at Man Utd? De Gea, Maguire, big Phil Jones, Fred, Ronaldo, AWB?
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Hegay posted:Who would have to go at Man Utd? De Gea, Maguire, big Phil Jones, Fred, Ronaldo, AWB? Ronaldo and De Gea want out and they should let them go. See what you can get for Bruno. Send Rashford to therapy - I mean that with the kindest of intent. Let AWB and the kids play.
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i forgot they even had phil jones but i looked him up and this profound quote is part of his profile page on their official website:![]() seems like they could have used him today??
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I could have sworn Phil Jones was gone on a free but he has 2 years left on his contract lol
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Prudent to tie down your best young players to a long term contract
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Is there a max contract length you can sign a player to?
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Cup of Hemlock posted:Ronaldo and De Gea want out and they should let them go. See what you can get for Bruno. Send Rashford to therapy - I mean that with the kindest of intent. Let AWB and the kids play. Do you have a source for De Gea wanting out? I haven't heard that anywhere, and there's something interesting that I'd like to point out about his contract. So De Gea is paid £375k per week on a contract that finishes at the end of this season, with the club holding an option to extend for an additional year. No one will offer him even 1/3rd of what he's making now if the option is declined, and he's completely unsuited to Ten Hag's style of play. They will definitely decline that option and look for a new keeper (or just keep Henderson) next summer if Ten Hag is still around. The club has inadvertently given De Gea a huge financial incentive to make sure Ten Hag is sacked before the end of the season.
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African AIDS cum posted:I could have sworn Phil Jones was gone on a free but he has 2 years left on his contract lol Same lol he's probably on mad wages as well
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Hegay posted:Same lol he's probably on mad wages as well Mad wages for someone not playing, sure, but in the context of Man Utd insanity he's on a modest 75k
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Is De Gea really on 375k a week? That doesn’t seem likely. It makes him one of the top 5 paid players or something like that.
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Vegetable posted:Is De Gea really on 375k a week? That doesn’t seem likely. It makes him one of the top 5 paid players or something like that. Welcome, american
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jettisonedstuff posted:Do you have a source for De Gea wanting out? I haven't heard that anywhere, and there's something interesting that I'd like to point out about his contract. He’s been linked with Real Madrid a few times (and almost joined them). I agree that he doesn’t have any real incentive at the moment beyond ensuring that he keeps getting paid.
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Cup of Hemlock posted:He’s been linked with Real Madrid a few times (and almost joined them). I agree that he doesn’t have any real incentive at the moment beyond ensuring that he keeps getting paid. That's a long time ago. Real Madrid wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole now.
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yep, De Gea seems like a key issue, and not particularly because he catch ball bad on the first goal basically every team in the league has figured out that as long as De Gea stands on his six-yard line and there's no-one dropping off from midfield who can collect the ball, you can just press and harry the centre-backs into giving the ball away Solskjaer solved that by sitting way deeper, at which point everyone bitched and moaned that United were winning 1-0 off VAR penalties and needed more of an attacking threat
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He also doesn't sweep at all and has zero presence in the box. And he never speaks to his defenders.
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TheRat posted:He also doesn't sweep at all and has zero presence in the box. And he never speaks to his defenders. hes got harry maguire and lionel messi standing on a phonebook in front of him, i'd absolutely no hable either
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Is there a max contract length you can sign a player to? I think if you sign them for longer than five years then they can leave on a free after five years anyway, so you do see contracts longer than five yeras occasionally but they're really rare
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Hegay posted:Who would have to go at Man Utd? De Gea, Maguire, big Phil Jones, Fred, Ronaldo, AWB? McTominay for sure, maybe Shaw, he seems to play exponentially worse whenever Maguire's on the pitch, so all the time.
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From watching the highlights again, it's pretty unsurprising that the game went the way it did, two absolute howlers from De Gea and it's all over. No wonder Dean Henderson was fuming about being sent out on loan again. Are United a team where almost everyone gets paid huge money and phones it in because they aren't in any danger of competing for anything and there is a long list of clowns who will take the blame. I mean Harry Maguire is poo poo, but if you put James Tarkovski or Ben Mee in that back four and they would look poo poo too. Except Maguire had had seasons of it and it's rotted his brain irreparably If the Fergie era had continued it would have been different because they would have just signed Harry Kane after his first decent season, Declan Rice would have been there years now and god knows what else. In short they should sign some good players
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There is absolutely a ton of phoning it in. I feel like ETH is too nice to do this, but if he really wants to light a fire, he should have everybody try out for their spot. Nobody is above the crest, etc.
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McFlurry Fan #1 posted:If the Fergie era had continued it would have been different because they would have just signed Harry Kane after his first decent season, Declan Rice would have been there years now and god knows what else. Gary Neville put it perfectly yesterday, "no clubs want their money and nobody wants to go there"
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Eh, I'd say plenty of clubs are more than happy to take their money. A whole lot of it.
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everyone knows they're rich and desperate so is adding way more onto their valuations when asked
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Yep
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i think manchester united are great as they are and shouldn't change a thing
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TheRat posted:Eh, I'd say plenty of clubs are more than happy to take their money. A whole lot of it. Working out pretty loving well right now isn't it?
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smiling giraffe posted:i think manchester united are great as they are and shouldn't change a thing
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I personally think that United would become a competent team again if they addressed their long term problems with defensive and central midfield and center forward, but they’ve been trying unsuccessfully to address those issues for a decade and half decade respectively, so who knows whether they will ever be able to actually do it.
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United were sixth last season with roughly the same squad. Add a player or two and they’ll still qualify for Europe.
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Vegetable posted:United were sixth last season with roughly the same squad. Add a player or two and they’ll still qualify for Europe. Eh. Cavani, Greenwood, Matic, Pogba, Mata, Telles all played some amounts of football and are gone. Ronaldo has downed more tools than last season and De Gea is no longer functional.
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TBH I think Ole was on the cusp of doing that, had talked Cavani into hanging around another year, got Jadon Sancho and Varane in and was working to get Declan Rice, and seems to be the only manager who can talk Pogba into playing football now and again. Things were looking up! Then the board loving nuked his plans by plonking a Ronaldo shaped turd in his lap, lol...funny how life is innit.
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Simiain posted:TBH I think Ole was on the cusp of doing that, had talked Cavani into hanging around another year, got Jadon Sancho and Varane in and was working to get Declan Rice, and seems to be the only manager who can talk Pogba into playing football now and again. Things were looking up!
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Simiain posted:
good news on that front https://twitter.com/hirstclass/status/1558844551070191616?s=21&t=zEUYKzecwAWPvQeFKLw7xg
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Let's go take a look at Manchester United.....oh dear.![]()
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# ? Jun 11, 2024 05:14 |
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Vegetable posted:It’s nuts to blame this on Ronaldo. Sancho hasn’t done poo poo since he arrived, and United hasn’t had a competent central midfielder in years. I don’t think United would have qualified for Europe without Ronaldo. Sancho was bought for a team that doesn't exist anymore. Everything about the team structure and style had to be turned upside down to accommodate Ronaldo. He scores a lot of goals and takes a billion shots but he does absolutely nothing else. Man Utd was top of the league before Ronaldo was signed. Would they have won the league? Absolutely not, but they would have done better than they did. And Ole would still have a job. Jose posted:good news on that front Please do it, I'm loving begging you
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