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atrus50 posted:i have a sneaking suspicion from this one daily beast interview i read that his casting team might target weirdos on purpose. they certainly do not use regular casting agencies for their "marks," instead putting feelers out in certain communities I totally buy that this is the result you'd get from casting calls via Craigslist edit - my favourite line this episode may have been "I watch Key and Peele", but also that Nathan's defense of eating dr farts candy poos was that he was "riffing" with the kid alf_pogs fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Tea Bone posted:Then it occurred to me the far more boring obvious answer; there's probably a bunch of questions like "what is your favourite movie?" brought up during casting. Nathan already knew she was going to say Apocalypto and planned to ask Angela her favourite movie to "break the tension" before even starting the conversation. Keep in mind that they are probably shooting for long hours every single day so there’s probably 100s of hours of unused footage of Nathan trying to bait a reaction and it not panning out. They only need to show you the one time it works perfectly.
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I like the part where fake Angela's like "am I the joke?" Because like honestly, kinda.
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Based on what was in the trailer but hasn't appeared in the show yet, the obvious prediction would seem to be nathan spiraling into nightmarish delusion in the house eventually with creepy adult adam
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No Mods No Masters posted:Based on what was in the trailer but hasn't appeared in the show yet, the obvious prediction would seem to be nathan spiraling into nightmarish delusion in the house eventually with creepy adult adam there's also a preview up on HBO.com for episode 6 and it looks like Angela has left the house but not the show which should be fun
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Looten Plunder posted:side note: I'd love someone to write a book on religion for dummies that spells out the differences in beliefs between all the different religions and denominations and how they all evolved/branched out from each other. There's literally a book called Religion For Dummies that is what you're describing. It's really good and interesting
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Looten Plunder posted:side note: I'd love someone to write a book on religion for dummies that spells out the differences in beliefs between all the different religions and denominations and how they all evolved/branched out from each other. Angela honestly breaks the schism down pretty well here. To very very much simplify it, Old Testament scripture, held in common by Christians and Jews, prophecies the coming of a savior or a messiah. Christians believe Jesus was that person, Jews don't believe it's happened yet.
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What a beautiful, unusual show. My wife is convinced that the whole Angela story is a way for Nathan to process his real life divorce, and while I'm not sure it's that explicit, I love how it's a perfectly viable read for the show. a new study bible! fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Puppy Galaxy posted:Last scene got me real good, both in the way it was set up and just how Nathan played it. I wonder if they screened for a pro-isreal person or just rolled the dice The last scene is so good. Nathan understands that we never break the cycles, just reconstitute it in a different form.
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Riptor posted:There's literally a book called Religion For Dummies that is what you're describing. It's really good and interesting This looks to be what I want, I'd just prefer it to not be authored by believers.
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah the woman calling her an anti-semite for not wanting to raise "her kid" Jewish was really silly. You could tell Angela was trying to explain further that she wasn't "against Judaism" in the way that the woman implied but she had already flown off the handle. Not that there aren't probably some more problematic things buried in there, but it Angela clearly wasn't trying to express that she is anti-Jew. She was going to explain it in the same way anybody with bigoted views but not a specific cartoon "hatred" of a specific race will claim they're not racist or bigoted, they're just [expressing whatever bigoted or racist belief they hold without personal hate, just a conclusion of their other beliefs]
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I love that Nathan cut off all the shallow critiques of The Rehearsal while simultaneously exposing their creators as being just as guilty of the narcissistic overindulgence they accuse him of.
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RestingB1tchFace posted:ROFL! Mel Gibson would definitely be her favorite director. As hilarious as this was it did feel like he was, trying to poke her into saying something/ reacting in a way that would be funny for his show
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:lol at them hiding in the underground basement to study the Torah. You just know Nathan was kicking himself for not renting a house with an attic
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No Mods No Masters posted:Based on what was in the trailer but hasn't appeared in the show yet, the obvious prediction would seem to be nathan spiraling into nightmarish delusion in the house eventually with creepy adult adam that trailer image is great. looks like a dark and freakish road to go down. i was reminded of this as well with Angela going on about 'perfect snow-white hair' this week: 
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I would kill a man for a black baseball hat with the Nate's Lizard Lounge logo.
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roomtone posted:i might be a simpleton but i think i would've enjoyed the show that was the first episode more than this is turning out. the concept has trailed off into boring. i didn't mind in previous episodes because he was doing something else too but i'm as checked out as angela is at this point. hopefully episode 6 is a surprise. angela's gone so at least it won't be more of her. Yeah... this show has been amazing so far, but I really just want more regular episodes sprinkled between the Angela arc. A lot of the fun of Nathan is seeing the lengths he goes to try to help people. It kind of feels like this show was supposed to be 10 episodes, but HBO only gave him 6.
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Gorman Thomas posted:You just know Nathan was kicking himself for not renting a house with an attic 
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Tea Bone posted:Then it occurred to me the far more boring obvious answer; there's probably a bunch of questions like "what is your favourite movie?" brought up during casting. Nathan already knew she was going to say Apocalypto and planned to ask Angela her favourite movie to "break the tension" before even starting the conversation. Imagine it being like the first episode where Nathan subliminally fed Kor answers to the quiz. Set up a movie night and just play nothing but Mel Gibson movies and eventually when you ask what her favorite movie is she will say one of them because it's foremost in her mind and there you go.
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TheMopeSquad posted:Imagine it being like the first episode where Nathan subliminally fed Kor answers to the quiz. Set up a movie night and just play nothing but Mel Gibson movies and eventually when you ask what her favorite movie is she will say one of them because it's foremost in her mind and there you go. The Kor episode shows that subliminal messaging doesn't work. He got some answers wrong and the ones he got right he got right because he actually knew the answer.
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What Nathan was doing with Kor was not subliminal messaging.
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alf_pogs posted:that trailer image is great. big Vivarium vibes from this pic
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JAMOOOL posted:guessing this was obvious to everyone else but I just realized that the 1st episode, which appeared to have been filmed in 2019, was probably just done as an HBO pilot, whereas the subsequent episodes were filmed in either 2020 or 2021 (given all the scenes of people wearing masks). so the 1st episode was a model for what the show could be, but obviously it turned into something very different That makes a lot of sense. The first episode definitely feels like a prologue to the rest of the show.
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I'm beginning to feel like the concept of the show isn't the Rehearsal, but rather a bizarre performance piece. I tried to describe the show to someone at a party last night, and all I could describe it as was just art. But I feel like the show is really about how Nathan has let the concept of the show spin out of control and he's become consumed by this ability to create a fantastic version of reality. It's about someone trying to manufacture real emotions, and what comes out from that. In the first episode, we see the ideal concept for the show. But in later episodes, we see more and more how the concept falls apart. Because unlike most reality shows, it's not about the other people. It's about Nathan. The episodes focus on his methods and his attempts to perfect the Rehearsal. I feel like people are going to be talking about what we've seen for a long time. I still don't feel like I have my finger on it, but that's exciting for me. Looten Plunder posted:side note: I'd love someone to write a book on religion for dummies that spells out the differences in beliefs between all the different religions and denominations and how they all evolved/branched out from each other. I do want to correct something here - Christians do not believe that Jews are going to hell, at least not in the sense that it is something that is inherent to Christian thought and belief. There are definitely some Christians who believe that, but most mainstream denominations don't believe that. It's also a pretty complex topic too. Early Christians did see themselves as Jewish, and there were questions about what you needed to do as a Christian. Over time, things changed, and Christians started moving away from Judaism and having their own customs and beliefs, likely spurred on by the fact that these Christians knew that Jews were correct.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Because unlike most reality shows, it's not about the other people. It's about Nathan. The episodes focus on his methods and his attempts to perfect the Rehearsal. Which Nathan are we talking about here -- Nathan Fielder, the human being running a prank show, or "Nathan", the character he's constructed through voice over and editing? Because I agree that the show is performance art, but the character being constructed here isn't a genuine human being, and I dunno if there's much point talking about "Nathan" like he is one, or that he's genuinely trying to construct and perfect a theatrical / therapy hybrid.
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I think there's unseen Real Angela who is much more unlikable and flagrantly offensive/ignorant, Fake Angela who we've been told is the real one but is actually a Jewish actress, and then of course Fake Fake Angela. What we've been told is real Angela seems like a real woman to me, but her delivery of realistic lines seems too well done and a it like you polished up a transcript into a screenplay. Her comment about direction really got me thinking it's not a bad theory. Used to do a ton of theater in highschool and college, and the authenticity of how actor people the actors are is wonderful. All of them working hard and super engaged, doing things slightly over projected like one would do on a stage, and the way they always want to escalate the role or monologues into drug addiction or sliding the knife into Nathan's confidence he can ever feel emotion.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Which Nathan are we talking about here -- Nathan Fielder, the human being running a prank show, or "Nathan", the character he's constructed through voice over and editing? I disagree. First off, we can only talk about Nathan, the character, because that's all we have. I'm not interested in trying to understand Nathan, the real person. I'm sure there's some overlap, but that's not at issue here. But more importantly, what makes Nathan different from Frasier or Captain Picard or George Costanza? They are all characters, they are all incomplete, but we look at them as genuine human beings. It feels like the show is itself an exploration of that Host character on a reality TV show, and trying to get into the head of that character. In what ways is Nathan lacking in humanity? He has desires. He has hopes. He has dreams. He has flaws. We feel sympathy for him. What is he if he's not a genuine character?
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Cemetry Gator posted:Because unlike most reality shows, it's not about the other people. It's about Nathan. The episodes focus on his methods and his attempts to perfect the Rehearsal. I think the disconnect for me is that it isn't actually about Nathan the show runner, it's about Nathan the character on the show. His persona has blurred a bit by now, but the real Nathan isn't actually invested in the rehearsal other than to make an entertaining show. Most others on the show are being themselves, relatively speaking, so you're always aware how much Nathan isn't. There aren't any stakes for him, so as he's become the subject, I feel like I'm just watching a guy trying to wring something out of a concept that has expired. I don't see where the comedic or dramatic tension is anymore. The best episode other than the first one was the Robin one because that was a couple of serious weirdos put into a bizarre situation, with Nathan just coming in to manipulate things to get the best material. Patrick's portion of ep 3 was good, teenage Adam was good because of the hilarious gritty teen drama performance, but outside of that it feels like the show has kind of disappeared up its own rear end a bit. That's where I'm at with it right now - I think Nathan is clever enough that this could be one of the intended responses to the latest episode and episode 6 will turn everything I'm saying on its head making me change my mind, but I'll have to wait and see what episode 6 does. It probably won't change that I was pretty much bored by this episode, though. roomtone fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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Cemetry Gator posted:I do want to correct something here - Christians do not believe that Jews are going to hell, at least not in the sense that it is something that is inherent to Christian thought and belief. There are definitely some Christians who believe that, but most mainstream denominations don't believe that. Evangelicals totally believe Jews are going to hell, and that's ~33% of the US.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Which Nathan are we talking about here -- Nathan Fielder, the human being running a prank show, or "Nathan", the character he's constructed through voice over and editing? Nathan is an improv guy, and like all improv guys he's chasing any set of circumstances that will allow him to both perform for others and incorporate them into the act. Everything on the show follows from this central truth.
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Space Fish posted:Nathan is an improv guy, and like all improv guys he's chasing any set of circumstances that will allow him to both perform for others and incorporate them into the act. Everything on the show follows from this central truth. You can definitely see this with the Dr. Farts portion of the show. Nathan yes-and his way through that setup, and engaged in the satanic ritual of eating poop.
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That kid was legitimately funny and I was laughing at all the different ways he administered the farts.
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so could the performers in this show like be nominated for rewards theoretically, or does it not count since they're acting in a reality show
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Snooze Cruise posted:so could the performers in this show like be nominated for rewards theoretically, or does it not count since they're acting in a reality show If Doctor Farts doesn't become a series spin off, I'm going to drop HBO Max faster than Discovery did.
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Dr Farts may be the greatest medical mind of our generation.
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Astro7x posted:Yeah... this show has been amazing so far, but I really just want more regular episodes sprinkled between the Angela arc. A lot of the fun of Nathan is seeing the lengths he goes to try to help people. It kind of feels like this show was supposed to be 10 episodes, but HBO only gave him 6. They gave him budget for 10 episodes but winter is expensive to maintain.
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