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Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

pentyne posted:

Add into that the dude spending $200 several times a month trying to talk to the vtuber to give gaming advice it was clearly going to be a terror of a thread to moderate.

somehow would have been less embarrassing for him if he'd just blown the $200/mo on a hooker instead

even if the hooker just took his money and laughed in his face

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Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:
Remember the vtuber with all the (definitely real) crippling illnesses that someone kept calling so inspiring or whatever

I'm pretty sure goons being unable to stop posting nws fan art is why the undertale thread got shut down too

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
i closed the Undertale thread because it had exhausted itself, there was nothing left but increasingly heated shitposting with the occasional strafing run from botl

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

The Shortest Path posted:

Even if you ignore all the sexualization of underage anime girls (lol) the whole "parasocial relationship" thing is deeply hosed up and unhealthy and all of the big vtuber agencies do everything they can to encourage that because it makes them truckloads of money by marketing their agents as your best friend who you wanna give money to to help out her career or whatever. Regular streamers and podcasters and such do this too of course, but it seems like the vtuber thing just makes it way way worse.

In theory the idea of a virtual avatar that you can use to anonymize yourself while still being a "person" to viewers is neat, but in practice goddamn has it led to a whole lot of hosed up poo poo.

Yeah, the most prominent vtubers are clearing 6 figgies, buy your own house in LA/NYC kind of money, but that's like 50-100 total out of the thousands and thousands of vtubers trying to make it.

Dude vtubers are their own weird ecosystem because they have much lower viewers/subs, have to play to an fundamentally different audience, and if they chat with/collab with female vtubers will get a ton of vitriol from her fans for daring to make their waifu impure or some poo poo.

It's just a loving mess all around, and nothing short of aggressive moderation and a 1 strike rule would allow a thread like that to exist.

Horizon Burning posted:

Remember the vtuber with all the (definitely real) crippling illnesses that someone kept calling so inspiring or whatever

I'm pretty sure goons being unable to stop posting nws fan art is why the undertale thread got shut down too

She got interviewed by The Washington Post, so that seems like it's actually real.

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

That person absolutely does have an autoimmune disease. People just got extremely weird about her, as many in the vtuber threads tended to do.

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

One More Fat Nerd posted:

Remembering a bunch of leftist goons jumping to B&R during the :yikeseroo: time and being really confused by the leftism site having a top level forum for Furry Roleplay.

Specifically SFW Furry Roleplay, as to discourage the 99.99% of those that would have been interested.

The Shortest Path posted:

Even if you ignore all the sexualization of underage anime girls (lol) the whole "parasocial relationship" thing is deeply hosed up and unhealthy and all of the big vtuber agencies do everything they can to encourage that because it makes them truckloads of money by marketing their agents as your best friend who you wanna give money to to help out her career or whatever. Regular streamers and podcasters and such do this too of course, but it seems like the vtuber thing just makes it way way worse.

In theory the idea of a virtual avatar that you can use to anonymize yourself while still being a "person" to viewers is neat, but in practice goddamn has it led to a whole lot of hosed up poo poo.

I lump vtubers with streamers and podcasters into the same trashbin and honestly, I think I'll keep doing that

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

qnqnx posted:

I lump vtubers with streamers and podcasters into the same trashbin and honestly, I think I'll keep doing that

I think the inherent tendency to make it very sexualized makes vtubers worse than those but yeah more or less. There's a handful of good podcasters and streamers but by and large they end up causing people to be very very deranged.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Wait the furry roleplay thing at bread and roses was real? lol

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Wait the furry roleplay thing at bread and roses was real? lol

In between toppling capitalism and posting video essays about the racism in Harry Potter I like to partake in some hot fursuit action.

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008

Antivehicular posted:

Yeah, even if all vtubers had avatars of non-anthropomorphic hamburgers and had fully G-rated content, how do you moderate people talking about their strats for spending money on parasocial engagement? What can you even do?

... Wait, did I just describe the Internet Personalities thread?

Yeah kinda lol. Internet Fans in general have a tendency to be weird no matter what the topic or platform, it's the combination of them all + Anime/Waifu culture cancer multiplier that creates a particularly potent strain of AIDS.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


parasocial behavior isn’t a new phenomena, live streaming just makes it much easier to indulge (and exploit)

Lurker Ant
Nov 16, 2016

The Shortest Path posted:

I will never understand why goons are so incapable of being weird and/or horny about random poo poo. There are many many many places on the internet to post about the hosed up poo poo you jack off to which are not this website, why would you ever think that poo poo is okay here

Part of the problem is that certain types of media deliberately pander to socially-inept pornsick young men, so having any kind of discussion about them is basically guaranteed to attract those types.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Wait the furry roleplay thing at bread and roses was real? lol

When I last checked the website before they hid all their posts behind a paywall it seemed like a great place if you all you wanted was play-by-post werewolf.

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008

Arrhythmia posted:

When I last checked the website before they hid all their posts behind a paywall it seemed like a great place if you all you wanted was play-by-post werewolf.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

pentyne posted:

quote:

Yeah for real, half of the art gura retweets would catch you a permaban for posting on the forums

I googled what a Gura is and its a 4'7" "adult" who is between 9000 to 10000 years old. What the gently caress.


Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

UHD posted:

parasocial behavior isn’t a new phenomena, live streaming just makes it much easier to indulge (and exploit)

Yep, and it's always been able to push people to some insane ends, all the way up to doing the kind of poo poo that joking about on the forums earns you a permaban.

40 years ago it was Jodie Foster, in the 2020s it'll be a drawing of a "900 year old demon princess" that looks like a cartoon child

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Oxxidation posted:

for all the justifications, vtuber discourse seems to consist of people cooing over their imaginary friends and it’s disconcerting to see, let alone moderate

and that's when they're not posting like collab video clips about the steamers comparing their avatars tit size or whatever the gently caress

Roth
Jul 9, 2016


Darkstalkers ftmfw

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Antivehicular posted:

Yeah, even if all vtubers had avatars of non-anthropomorphic hamburgers and had fully G-rated content, how do you moderate people talking about their strats for spending money on parasocial engagement? What can you even do?

... Wait, did I just describe the Internet Personalities thread?

you described the mobile games forum

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Goddamn the GDQ threads are a hell of a rabbit hole

From the same QCS thread as that wretched Luna Was Here post

Rubellavator posted:

Even the sgdq thread from 2018 went too far almost immediately. I was surprised mods didnt do anything about it at the time. It's even in the gold mine.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3861147&pagenumber=722&perpage=40#post485539047

This links to a post containing a (cropped) picture of Wind Waker Link presumably being hosed just offscreen in the 2018 SGDQ thread and then people quoting it approvingly because it's got a funny caption attached to it or something, and also a bunch of big titty genderswaps of the bird guy from BotW, and that's as far as I cared to look at it. But at this point I am going to hard side-eye anybody with a Samus, Splatoon or Isabelle avatar because the sheer abundance of them is hard to ignore there

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008

Heath posted:

Goddamn the GDQ threads are a hell of a rabbit hole

From the same QCS thread as that wretched Luna Was Here post

This links to a post containing a (cropped) picture of Wind Waker Link presumably being hosed just offscreen in the 2018 SGDQ thread and then people quoting it approvingly because it's got a funny caption attached to it or something, and also a bunch of big titty genderswaps of the bird guy from BotW, and that's as far as I cared to look at it. But at this point I am going to hard side-eye anybody with a Samus, Splatoon or Isabelle avatar because the sheer abundance of them is hard to ignore there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2LJflPNrM

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

Desert Bus posted:

Who was the mod that tried to gain popularity by posting a pic of them licking a dogs butthole? Silver[something]?

It was you

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012


lol

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

This makes a lot of sense, to me, now

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Heath posted:

side-eye anybody with a Samus, Splatoon or Isabelle avatar

there are two things that are really strange to me: 1st how people online take stuff like sex positivity and confuse it with not having boundaries, and second how those three specific characters were like a universal constant for some of the worst posters on SA

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
also

Stux posted:

mod intervention lol

god is not with these people. may they be obliterated from thr heavens inshallah.

queen combat as the first quote here lol. i knew it. the closure of fyad was revenge for the gdq thread

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Wow, there was a lot of gross horny poo poo that got posted in there. not just about splatoon, or banjo kazooie, or samus, or zelda, but pretty much anything that was apparently on at the time. It's barely about the speedrun and mostly just horny.

Cool.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

ArfJason posted:

also

queen combat as the first quote here lol. i knew it. the closure of fyad was revenge for the gdq thread

lol 100%. i didnt want to try dodging hosed pictures in that thread like im in the resi evil laser hallway but i saw queen combat had posted and just clicked the ? knowing id find soemthing immediately

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Spanish Manlove posted:

Wow, there was a lot of gross horny poo poo that got posted in there. not just about splatoon, or banjo kazooie, or samus, or zelda, but pretty much anything that was apparently on at the time. It's barely about the speedrun and mostly just horny.

Cool.

games is epic. i like how the mods would sticky the agdq threads and then apparently never looked at them

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Spanish Manlove posted:

Wow, there was a lot of gross horny poo poo that got posted in there. not just about splatoon, or banjo kazooie, or samus, or zelda, but pretty much anything that was apparently on at the time. It's barely about the speedrun and mostly just horny.

Cool.

This is was actually a problem in a lot of goon discords too when those same kind of people would show up spamming their weird fetish poo poo 24/7.

Oxxidation posted:

i closed the Undertale thread because it had exhausted itself, there was nothing left but increasingly heated shitposting with the occasional strafing run from botl

What they might be thinking of is that one of the PYF image threads had to institute a bunch of rules about thumbnails and image limits because one poster was dropping 10-30 giant size image posts of undertale pictures constantly and a bunch of those happened to be sexy skeletons

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Rectal Death Adept posted:

This is was actually a problem in a lot of goon discords too when those same kind of people would show up spamming their weird fetish poo poo 24/7.

What they might be thinking of is that one of the PYF image threads had to institute a bunch of rules about thumbnails and image limits because one poster was dropping 10-30 giant size image posts of undertale pictures constantly and a bunch of those happened to be sexy skeletons

wasnt that captain invictus, the dude whos obsessed with vtubers

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Larry Parrish posted:

games is epic. i like how the mods would sticky the agdq threads and then apparently never looked at them

reading threads is for nerds

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008

Rectal Death Adept posted:

What they might be thinking of is that one of the PYF image threads had to institute a bunch of rules about thumbnails and image limits because one poster was dropping 10-30 giant size image posts of undertale pictures constantly and a bunch of those happened to be sexy skeletons

That's weird. Kinda sounds like the same exact guy, years later, shilling for a vtuber in unrelated threads for all time.

Couldn't be the same guy lol. (it is)

That Little Demon
Dec 3, 2020
Ask me about shitposting in SAD to get the attention my parents never gave me

lmfao all over again

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:

Rectal Death Adept posted:

What they might be thinking of is that one of the PYF image threads had to institute a bunch of rules about thumbnails and image limits because one poster was dropping 10-30 giant size image posts of undertale pictures constantly and a bunch of those happened to be sexy skeletons

Yeah this was it

shelley
Nov 8, 2010

Desert Bus posted:

Who was the mod that tried to gain popularity by posting a pic of them licking a dogs butthole? Silver[something]?

SilverSliver, and whoa that was almost nine years ago somehow ??

e: gently caress I didn’t refresh before replying

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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

ArfJason posted:

wasnt that captain invictus, the dude whos obsessed with vtubers

yuuuup

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3683299&userid=58047&perpage=40&pagenumber=37
when someone complained this was his response. It was quoted by multiple people who realized "yeah, you're probably gonna remove this after you see the response to it"


And he apologized by promising to donate money.

Captain Invictus posted:

My last post on the subject, but after thinking about it for a bit, as a show of good faith and as an actual tangible apology because I believe actions speak louder than words, for making that lovely comic and subjecting you all to it, when I get my next paycheck I will be donating fifty dollars from it to the Southern Poverty Law Center. I don't make much but that's about half of what I'll have left over after I pay my bills and such, and I believe every little bit counts.

pentyne fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Aug 15, 2022

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