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Cabbages and Kings posted:I know small racks never stay small but I want to build a small rack to supplement my mother32/0coast, but also to act as a drum box by itself. If you are looking for drums have you considered a DFAM?
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Is this the place for extremely specific Eurorack module questions? Getting my first rack in soon - 84 hp, pray to God it ends there - and looking to start with some idiot-proof conversion between modular, stompbox and expression pedal signals. ALM/Busy SBG looks great, but I'm curious about sending signals into the modular from stompbox, and then back out into stompbox. It seems like it's not quite designed for this as far as I can tell, and I'd be using the Return and Send as in/out respectively. Worried that if the Dry/Wet control doesn't go all the way to 100% Wet I'll be setting myself up for feedback loops, and not the fun kind. Anybody out there have this module and can advise as to danger levels w/ this use case? Failing that, does anybody know of other modules that convert modular signal levels to outgoing expression pedal levels (3v/5v)? This is the real 'get' of the SBG for me, as stompbox in/outs are otherwise pretty common. I know I could use an attenuator for this, but 'idiot-proof' is the goal here. Expression pedal-to-modular CV level is nice, but not as much a priority.
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free Trapt CD posted:Is this the place for extremely specific Eurorack module questions? You can do it with a cable with a TRS end for the expression pedal and a TS end on the cv side, with appropriate termination (a floating ring) https://www.redpandalab.com/accessories/cv-expression-cable Similarly you can fake modular -> line or pedal level with attenuators (thats all thats really going on there, maybe some impedence matching which may/may not even matter for you)
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Is there someone that can help answer my noob MIDI questions, particularly around Arturia products? I picked up a Keystep Pro a week ago and was working on setting it up as the brains of my DAWless setup w/ a Minibrute 2, Drumbrute, Monologue, and a Korg NTS-1. Initially I was going to try to just daisy-chain things by passing the monologue through the Minibrute 2 to get around there only being 2 MIDI outs on the Keystep. I was running into issues trying to get the Keystep to see the Monologue so I went out and bought a Kenton Thru-5 MIDI box and I was able to get that set up pretty fast without any real issue... the one thing I had to figure out was turning off RX Transport on the Monologue so that the keystep wouldn't just trigger the Monologue's sequencer and would instead use it's own sequencer. The thing I'm trying to figure out now is how best to configure the Drumbrute with the Keystep... I figured I'd just go midi and use the dedicated drum track on the keystep but pretty quickly I'm realizing that I'd actually prefer to use the Drumbrute's pads/sequencer rather than the Keystep as it's kind of a pain in the rear end hunting for the right key that is mapped to my snare or whatever and would rather just play in the drums on the drumbrute but then use the Keystep to trigger it... I'm concerned I'm not really thinking about this the right way though or that I'll be making the workflow more complicated for myself by not being able to use the Keystep's pattern controls. Does anybody do something similar to this or use a keystep to control drums?
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I had a similar experience with the Volca Drum, where I very much enjoy its UI and prefer it over the Beatstep Pro. I ended up just sending clock to it and programming drums there and using the BSP for sequencing the FM and TD-3. Use what UI works for you. If the native UI is better, use that.
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free Trapt CD posted:Is this the place for extremely specific Eurorack module questions? If you're into soldering at all, I've got this kit and highly recommend it: https://aisynthesis.com/product/ai006-eurorack-stomp-box-adapter/ Very easy to build, great documentation, and does exactly what you're looking to do without worrying about levels E: He has prebuilt modules as well if you don't feel up to soldering Catatron Prime fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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Cabbages and Kings posted:thanks everyone, thats much to read on while I think about cash hahah I better get reading, I just sold $3700 worth of magic cards in SA mart, I already have the cash sitting in paypal, and I allocated around $1200 of that to building a Plonk rack. "Mommy they move quick, that's just how we do poo poo", to quote the great Heems
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JamesKPolk posted:You can do it with a cable with a TRS end for the expression pedal and a TS end on the cv side, with appropriate termination (a floating ring) Thanks for that. I have a reamping box that might work, but you're probably right about the attenuators etc. - I can probably just mark the 3.3v max on an attenuator somewhere with a piece of marking tape. Had a feeling I was overthinking it! OSU_Matthew posted:If you're into soldering at all, I've got this kit and highly recommend it: Yeah, thank you for the link! This was exactly what I thought I'd go for if not for the SBG's expression pedal functions, but it might just be the better and more frugal option long-term. Could even grab two. Hell, I'll pick up a matrix mixer and tape interface while I'm at it! For the tape machine I'm totally gonna buy one day, of course...
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free Trapt CD posted:Thanks for that. I have a reamping box that might work, but you're probably right about the attenuators etc. - I can probably just mark the 3.3v max on an attenuator somewhere with a piece of marking tape. Had a feeling I was overthinking it! 100%, in practice I end up doing stuff much more by feel anyway. like how many pedals do you have that you actually use the full sweep for? My pedal has a trim pot specifically for this. with amps I gather keeping them under load, etc is important but eurorack is generally gonna be more more linear, like you can just turn the thing down without losing anything (unless you're specifically going for a bunch of precisely calculated clipping, but that's different!). Stuff like certain fuzzes that really wanna see a specific signal flow / resistances in and out, then the impedence matters but eurorack and most guitar pedals end up "close enough" for a lot of applications (theres ways to do this more precisely but worry about that when you're sure its the weakest link in your recording chain) Cabbages and Kings posted:hahah I better get reading, I just sold $3700 worth of magic cards in SA mart, I already have the cash sitting in paypal, and I allocated around $1200 of that to building a Plonk rack. "Mommy they move quick, that's just how we do poo poo", to quote the great Heems gz but you should get a syncussion or something for that $$$ imo e: sorry everyone for the gEaR vIdEo but this is what bumped plonk from my "well maybe" list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZWMf7Bzkg JamesKPolk fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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JamesKPolk posted:e: sorry everyone for the gEaR vIdEo but this is what bumped plonk from my "well maybe" list this does look super cool and have my gears turning is the set of modules I'd need here: ugridz rings sy0.5a lollipop ?
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OSU_Matthew posted:If you're into soldering at all, I've got this kit and highly recommend it: a few of us goons are friends with the dude who runs aisynthesis... it's good stuff for sure.
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has anyone used a VPM QD? 4 drum voices on one module with individual triggers seems nice.
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MMD3 posted:a few of us goons are friends with the dude who runs aisynthesis... it's good stuff for sure. I've only met a few times but he's a good dude. Filling the hole synthrotek left nicely, but like actually supporting the projects Now I'm wondering who ITT I've met before lol
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JamesKPolk posted:
I like watching divkid and mylarmelodies gear demos. I know I'm not buying any of it, and have no clue how a lot of the stuff works, but they often give insight in to how something similar might work or be able to be patched up in vcv rack. They almost always spark an idea for me to experiment with, so that's a plus.
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Cabbages and Kings posted:has anyone used a VPM QD? 4 drum voices on one module with individual triggers seems nice. people seem to like it a lot! the faceplate doesn't quite click for me (this is a dumb problem to have, to be clear, but its my dumb problem) Cabbages and Kings posted:this does look super cool and have my gears turning Soundforce has a series of "samples" modules that are 6-8 nonstandardish sounds from an 808, a 909, and (!!!) a Linndrum, but I think it's triggered samples. All very usable stuff though. Actually if you're thinking about doing this PM cause the thing that's stopped me from pulling the trigger on new ones from Europe is the shipping eats all the VAT savings. But if we split... Rings and Lollipop I think you could pass on, PERSONALLY. Rings is... rings (but if you want it, you want it) and Lollipop is rack space for something thats cheaper and better outboard. Grab a RNC or RNLA or 3360 or that Joe Meeks optical thing if the vactrol is a must. Or patch it w/ a LPG (do this IMO) but then you have a LPG to ping when you don't need the comp Resonant Filters and a VCS type slope (Maths is dope) make excellent kicks. Pinging filters is so much fun lol there's a reason everyone talks about it
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B33rChiller posted:Lol I've never heard it pronounced Mitch-igan. hahahaha oh man I missed that. I got an "Oh-reg-cone" in a londoner pedal review once Divkid, inspite of myself, gets me more often than not. Northern accent probably helps
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Well I ended up going with VPME QD, a Pam's New Workout, and a Zlob Modular (filter for the 0coast as much as anything else) Now I just need a niftycase and I'm right back to not really having any funbux. I did put most of the cash I got from cards into useful funding for our house, so, my conscience is clear. The fact that the VPME has 4 independently assignable triggers and 4 voices out of the box makes it instantly more useful to me for the kind of stuff I've been doing, than the Plonk. I think. Would need to mess with all these things for hours to see, so we'll start here. Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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I built a Befaco Percall and made a 40-minute video of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zzOjPTDQsg Background music is made using the Percall. Lots of Noise Plethora, and lots of KickAll. Here are some clips: Clip1 Clip2 Clip3 Clip4 Clip5 Clip6 Clip7 Clip8 Clip9 Edit: Fixing URL links. Rod Hoofhearted fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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JamesKPolk posted:100%, in practice I end up doing stuff much more by feel anyway. like how many pedals do you have that you actually use the full sweep for? My pedal has a trim pot specifically for this. the best syncussion clone out there is the division department 01/IV and i will fight anybody who denies it. midi only though, but if you're dropping big cash on bespoke drum voices you should probably have a good midi sequencer already
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Mr. Sharps posted:the best syncussion clone out there is the division department 01/IV and i will fight anybody who denies it. midi only though, but if you're dropping big cash on bespoke drum voices you should probably have a good midi sequencer already I do like the 01/IV, but I like the (PsyCo X, in my case) SY-1M more as a Syncussion clone. I am a bit mystified about folks who find the 01/IV "too limited" though, but I also admit I have a drum synth addiction... In other news I finally play the opsix unboxing lottery tomorrow (WRT screen, etc.)... DUN DUN DUN...
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Achmed Jones posted:as far as i can tell musicians friend still hasn't shipped mine
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Achmed Jones posted:as far as i can tell musicians friend still hasn't shipped mine I called and raised hell after getting two different stories over the last three days about this, apparently it's a shitshow behind the scenes over this "sale" as it was below cost and tripped internal holds for every order meant to prevent pricing errors. Korg put them in a bind with price matching their blowout, which may be shady too as many of the Korg shipped ones seem to have screen issues. But, it looks like they intend to honor the sales: MF customer service posted:Agreed, Agreed fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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Awesome, thanks for the info! I actually just came to report that it's finally gone from "pending" to "order created." I of course don't have a clue where that puts it in the overall pipeline, but I'll keep my shirt on and my fingers crossed until the 17th
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Stoca Zola posted:100% would not pay full price for Closing the loop on this, based on the "probably not at full price" review, I bought the first three modules of Music Theory for Electronic Music for $CDN40 on sale at Udemy (on sale through today, I presume). At that price even if it is slapdash and rough around the edges, if nothing else I have a structured format to base my own additional research on. Thanks again for the frank review. I'll go through this soon, I hope, once some of my work rush dies down a little. Regardless of how polished it may be, I'm pretty excited to at least get some fundamentals down. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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chaosbreather posted:Congrats, Hydrasynth is amazing, from the very first preset on down. I've written a lot in this thread about how much it owns and my opinion of it has only grown with time. The only thing i'd ever trade it out for in my setup would be the Hydrasynth Deluxe because it would be sick to have a split in there. i love chaos breather and hydrasynth I have hydrasynth explorer
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Can someone point me to a video of why the hydra synth is so cool? I’ve watched a couple reviews and the controls seem really neat and interesting, but I haven’t ever heard a sound demo that wowed me. Or don’t, I probably don’t need any additional synth temptation and just need to write more with what k already have.
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Thorpe posted:Can someone point me to a video of why the hydra synth is so cool? I’ve watched a couple reviews and the controls seem really neat and interesting, but I haven’t ever heard a sound demo that wowed me. there are a bunch of non review video "just playing" type stuff out there and I guess it either grabs you, or not. But, those videos were what sold me, as much as the tutorial and review vids. Here is 40 mins of just the baked in presets being played https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_lPNdAMj90&t=1216s video (and the synth) really benefit from a good set of headphones if you don't have truly studio grade monitors with good bass, thing is a beast on the low end that can just sound farty through poo poo speakers (like most of the ones in the room I am in  ).
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i don’t have one so take my take with a healthy bit of salt but the reason people love the hydrasynth isn’t really super easy to demo. it doesn’t really have a really cool “signature sound” but it does everything you could want from a poly synth really really well with an absurdly intuitive interface. it’s got a ton of options when it comes to oscillators and filters which makes it super versatile and it also has a very impressive suite of effects. also the keybed with the poly aftertouch on the big ones is quite the cherry on top if you’re looking to play something expressive.
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All told the value of those is insane. I would have gotten one if I didn't get into eurorack.
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the poly aftertouch is def the signature hydrasynth sound imo, sorry to explorer havers. it's great at making vangelis sounds, and wavetable stuff. you have access to a bunch of bizarre waveforms, and you can make sounds with a lot of character blending small bits of that in with more conventional square/saw/sine etc. a lot of my patches wind up having like early 90s pc-game character from the wavetable scanning, you could v easily score a sequel to civ 3 or the dune RTS on this thing. the big selling point that made me get one, besides the aftertouch, was the internal routing. it's super easy and convenient to modulate things with other things, you can do lots of eurorack-esque tricks with modulating said things. if you can think of a thing you want to impact with envelopes/cv, you can do it very easily! the filters are also amazing. idk how they compare precisely to other polysynths because i didn't spend hours at a perfect circuit or w/e doing sweeps, but it has tons of types, with very interesting routing possibilities. putting the 2 filters in parallel really opens up tons of sound design options, and you can ofc control everything on said filters. i really like mapping a narrow Q bandpass filter with a ton of resonance, and then having the Q and/or the targeted frequency controlled by the aftertouch; this lets you emphasize certain frequencies by hitting keys harder. creamcorn fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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Got my M8 in the mail! It was neat using the headless version to learn my way around the software but I feel like I'll put more quality time chilling on the couch with this rather than looking at twitter.
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Ooooh post more about it after some playtime
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creamcorn posted:the big selling point that made me get one, besides the aftertouch, was the internal routing. it's super easy and convenient to modulate things with other things, you can do lots of eurorack-esque tricks with modulating said things. if you can think of a thing you want to impact with envelopes/cv, you can do it very easily! as someone who is basically aspiring to learn synthesis basics after a couple years of just "messing around", within like 15 mins of watching patch tutorial vids for the hydrasynth I was seeing the obvious relationship to how patch chains on my semimodulars work. I understood how it was generally, conceptually, the same, but the matrix and fact that the whole signal path is laid out in buttons and nothing tends to be more than 1-2 screens deep, makes it much easier to understand the actual path from "oscillator makes variable waveform" to "device goes bleep bleep bleep". I've never used poly aftertouch before, but the patches that make the most interesting use of it are really something else, the experience of modulating a soundscape by just holding a chord and making light finger adjustments is really something and kind of reminds me of a theremin in a weird way. Beaucoup Cuckoo posted:All told the value of those is insane. I would have gotten one if I didn't get into eurorack. I sold out of Magic, paid for roof repairs, some necessary appliances and cat & human healthcare somehow still ended up with... uh.... a hydrasynth 49 key, 0coast, mother32, mavis, beatstep pro, KP3, assorted mixers, and I have a small VPME QD based rack setup for drums being shipped to me now. (I started buying stuff in 2017, it's been a process. Also started divesting from Magic around then). If I had been able to put all my cardboard cash into synths, dear god, I'd never learn anything. I keep telling myself I am ready to put the GAS on hold until I'm recording more. Then I look at the Matriarch promo videos again
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I just got an Arpitecht because I noticed WMD sold out and PerfectCircuit still had them. I HAVE TO BE DONE FOR REAL NOW, NO MATTER HOW MANY SIGNAL/DISCORD MESSAGES I GET FROM FRIENDS ABOUT "OH BUY JUST THIS ONE MORE THING" 
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Cabbages and Kings posted:I just got an Arpitecht because I noticed WMD sold out and PerfectCircuit still had them. I HAVE TO BE DONE FOR REAL NOW, NO MATTER HOW MANY SIGNAL/DISCORD MESSAGES I GET FROM FRIENDS ABOUT "OH BUY JUST THIS ONE MORE THING" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8
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Arpitecht is a great module, you're going out on a high note, no pun intended. Only complaint is I wish the arp would include the first note of the next octave. Triad is totally missable, if you missed it.
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I got antsy and called musicians friend; they're hoping that Korg will give them the go-ahead to start shipping on Friday. fingers crossed 
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Arcella posted:Got my M8 in the mail! It was neat using the headless version to learn my way around the software but I feel like I'll put more quality time chilling on the couch with this rather than looking at twitter. Welcome to the club, sir. Make sure you join the discord: https://discord.gg/5EMWxpnj
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