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I mean I know the options for tax careers generally, I'm not exactly fresh out of school here. I've just been poking my network with questions about day to day in this particular specialty and figured I'd poke my head in here. Thanks though.
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Mr. Nice! posted:If you like tax go work for the IRS they’re hiring. Plus I hear you get a gun
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dismas posted:Plus I hear you get a gun Ah poo poo I forgot about that part.
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Emily Spinach posted:I mean I know the options for tax careers generally, I'm not exactly fresh out of school here. I've just been poking my network with questions about day to day in this particular specialty and figured I'd poke my head in here. Thanks though. Oh please, no need to thank us.
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Aug 19, 2022 09:20
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are you looking for "permission" to change jobs or someone to talk you into staying at your current job
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Leaving private practice for a job with a state AG's office. Over 50% pay cut, but current job was just too toxic and I made enough over the years to try something new. Hopefully interesting work and good colleagues. I'll certainly enjoy all the bizarre public holidays. Bring on Columbus Day!
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MayakovskyMarmite posted:Leaving private practice for a job with a state AG's office. Over 50% pay cut, but current job was just too toxic and I made enough over the years to try something new. Congrats, enjoy being unproductive and suckling at the socialist teat.
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MayakovskyMarmite posted:Leaving private practice for a job with a state AG's office. Over 50% pay cut, but current job was just too toxic and I made enough over the years to try something new. I just did this and absolutely love it. I may jump ship in a few years for one of the state entities that pay more, but at the moment the lower stress, comfort in not responding to poo poo on the weekends, and diminished pressure to have way too detailed billing entries is absolutely amazing.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Congrats, enjoy being unproductive and suckling at the socialist teat. God I wish that were me
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Absolutely making less money than I could and i love it. Having a non poo poo workplace/relationship with your colleagues just makes life so much better than its literally invaluable
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Aug 20, 2022 01:25
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Can't match a 50% pay cut, but did 30% 20 years ago. Worth. Every. Penny.
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I choose the money.
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It helps that my wife has a well paying job so our household income will be less impacted. My job was pretty miserable at times. Maybe all litigation is intermittently terrible, but I've had some crazy deadline/stress events. A month long trial with the main partner having a melt down of incompetence was a bad time. The profession is not helped by the fact that you repeatedly run into some real pieces of work out their who are just distressing to deal with. In fact those people seem to float to the top.
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Yeah I was blown away in law school by the amount of loving hot messes/emotionally infantile ppl I ran into. I'd say like....a majority?
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Hell, just look at this thread.
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*waves* And yeah, I'll be joining y'all in the massive paycut club quite soon. Looking forward to it.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Congrats, enjoy being unproductive and suckling at the socialist teat. emptyquote with zero sarcasm
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I took a pay cut when I first went in-house, but then with equity and stuff, it didn't end up being much of a cut. Work maybe 5% of what I was doing, earn the same as when I left a couple of years ago? Kind of weird, but it's nice.
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TheWordOfTheDayIs posted:emptyquote with zero sarcasm So emptyquote
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mongeese posted:I took a pay cut when I first went in-house, but then with equity and stuff, it didn't end up being much of a cut. Work maybe 5% of what I was doing, earn the same as when I left a couple of years ago? Kind of weird, but it's nice. This is the in-house way.
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Muir posted:This is the in-house way. Yeah, basically I'm now at a pretty okayish attorney salary for mid-law at this point, never gonna hit partner money but for my current level of effort it's not bad. And my pension, hours, and benefits are amazing, some of the best available.
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I'm in the slow shift to aim towards in-house. Moved from private practice litigation to government, moved from government to government agency counsel, now thinking about whether I'll stay here or aim to shift toward an in-house employer in a few years once I've built some of the non-litigation skills. I'm not entirely sure how to build those or explain them, but I think I'm making progress.
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Arcturas posted:I'm in the slow shift to aim towards in-house. Moved from private practice litigation to government, moved from government to government agency counsel, now thinking about whether I'll stay here or aim to shift toward an in-house employer in a few years once I've built some of the non-litigation skills. I'm not entirely sure how to build those or explain them, but I think I'm making progress. Come to the dark side and work for a trade association or in government relations. Money's decent and there's very very little hours/stress.
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Kalman posted:Come to the dark side and work for a trade association or in government relations. Money's decent and there's very very little hours/stress. Oh, that's tempting. I might need to switch to a different agency to build the network for that kind of a shift but I'll definitely consider it...
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Congrats, enjoy being unproductive and suckling at the socialist teat. new fetish identified
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Arcturas posted:I'm in the slow shift to aim towards in-house. Moved from private practice litigation to government, moved from government to government agency counsel, now thinking about whether I'll stay here or aim to shift toward an in-house employer in a few years once I've built some of the non-litigation skills. I'm not entirely sure how to build those or explain them, but I think I'm making progress. I did government to GR to full-blown in-house at tech companies and it's really fun working with mostly biglaw burnouts?
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How’d you pitch the gov -> GR transition? I guess my problem is I’m currently at a law-enforcement adjacent agency so I’m worried half of what I’m learning isn’t as easy to market to the GR hiring space.
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Hot Dog Day #38 posted:I did government to GR to full-blown in-house at tech companies and it's really fun working with mostly biglaw burnouts? hello friend
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Arcturas posted:How’d you pitch the gov -> GR transition? I guess my problem is I’m currently at a law-enforcement adjacent agency so I’m worried half of what I’m learning isn’t as easy to market to the GR hiring space. Ah, you want to market into the crisis-management side of things. (More seriously, any GR team that deals with whichever agency you’re at on even an infrequent basis is going to be quite willing to take a look. Also, if you do any inter-agency stuff, the other agencies you worked with are also important - contacts in State are helpful for anyone doing anything international, for example.)
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:hello friend hello. it is we. Arcturas posted:How’d you pitch the gov -> GR transition? I guess my problem is I’m currently at a law-enforcement adjacent agency so I’m worried half of what I’m learning isn’t as easy to market to the GR hiring space. Comfort and familiarity interacting with stakeholders, "speak their language," knowledge of process. I was going from state government legislature to an in-house GR team so I didn't have a ton of portable knowledge I brought in with me and that wasn't something they expected of me at all. Demonstrated ability to learn and curiosity were what they were more interested in as well as my ability to navigate legislative affairs and translate legislative text to plain English for both internal audience and external stakeholders. Hot Dog Day #38 fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Aug 30, 2022 |
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Hot Dog Day #38 posted:hello. it is we. The thought of another HDD is making me very uncomfortable
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Reveal yourself, Hot Dog Day #69!
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Watch blarzgh rereg just for a bit
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Pook Good Mook posted:I had a conversation with my legal assistant a while ago where we were talking about careers and issues we were having and my assistant said something like, "I'm just here to make you look good" and all I could think was how much easier I was to replace compared to her. A lot of the back office roles in BigLaw (especially the ex-attorney ones like PSL or legal project manager) are incredibly safe, quite well compensated jobs that let you go home at 5.30 and virtually never ask your time on evenings or weekends. They also usually don’t expose people to the worst stressed partner bullshit. As a result they never quit. At my shop our office’s finance manager has been here 25 years, almost since she entered the workforce.
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Pook Good Mook posted:I had a conversation with my legal assistant a while ago where we were talking about careers and issues we were having and my assistant said something like, "I'm just here to make you look good" and all I could think was how much easier I was to replace compared to her. A good paralegal is worth so much more than a dumbass baby lawyer and so much harder to find
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blarzgh posted:A good paralegal is worth so much more than a dumbass baby lawyer and so much harder to find I had a case with an older lawyer in denton and asked him a question about a psychological treatment facility. His Paralegal was in the seats in the courtroom and piped up with the answer. That was when I knew I was gonna get my rear end kicked
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Law nerds might be interested to hear that Alberta judge who wrote up the big decision on sovcits dropped a new one recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SeHLhSyT_Y Vvvv thanks for putting in the effort I was too lazy for. I enjoy traffic cone man's lawsplainer vids. I have no education in law, but a healthy curiosity. B33rChiller fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Sep 3, 2022 |
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