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GreenMetalSun posted:Welp, that sucks. It's horrible, but he also literally hasn't published a book since it happened
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1stGear posted:A lot of that list smacks of "This author writes about conflict of some kind and their characters have flaws, they are literally Hitler" It's a weird mixture of Orson Scott Card is a terrible homophobe and racist, William S. Burroughs did kill his wife, and then stuff Neil Gaiman wrote 30 years ago hasn't aged well, and also a bunch of people who died before the person who wrote this list was born. It conflates problematic works with criminal behavior. Some of the people on the list have actually done horrible things, and some just wrote books that have issues with how they write race or gender. Also it's an anglophone list because it doesn't include Mishima, so whoever wrote it is also racist and belongs on the list.
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SiKboy posted:The language around period poverty has tended to be fairly inclusive (or at least the bits of I've seen working in education, I cant speak for the whole thing), so the period products are available to "Anyone who needs them" or "People who are menstruating". I dont know for sure, but I suspect thats set of the terf "CANT EVEN SAY WOMAN ANY MORE!!!!!!!!" brainworms to want to blow up the whole thing. They're absolutely willing to hurt poor cis women and girls if it means one less instance of inclusive language. loving monomaniacal spite goblins, every one of the fuckers. It's this, they get extremely upset about how programs using inclusive language are 'removing women and girls', with a side of suggesting that clearly the transes/wokes are just using period poverty as a means of fetishising periods or as a distraction from Male Violence. She says as much herself within the thread. Her argument for why period poverty doesn't actually exist is also annoying to me, she points out that pain is a more common reason for missing school in relation to periods than a lack of products so why focus on having free products in school, except she then includes having them available in her list of things schools could do to be more 'period friendly'. Proposing something actionable and harmless that will be helpful to a lot of people is bad because what about this other thing? Better education on and availability of pain management is definitely a thing that is needed, but schools can't exactly hand out ibuprofen the way they can pads and tampons.
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Skwirl posted:That I have to see. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/liz-mair-spanish-mongolian-tweet/
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Skwirl posted:Also it's an anglophone list because it doesn't include Mishima, so whoever wrote it is also racist and belongs on the list. I really like Mishima but I feel he transitions from "outsider arist" to "pop artist" and by the virtue of both fields, I think a certain "lack of decorum" is expected. That's different from say, O'Conner where they seek to confront racism and are also unable to overcome their own racism within Southern Gothic which is high art in America.
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The funniest thing in that list is that the person who wrote it doesn't know the difference between "Romanize" and "Romanticize."Skwirl posted:I really don't understand the accusation of misogynoir, because I don't remember there ever being any black women in Shakespeare. Is it because there aren't any black women in Shakespeare? Othello's wife Desdemona, I think. Also, Shakespeare supports "misogynistic principals." This list is either one of the finest examples of bait I've ever seen, babby's first literary analysis, or some admixture of the two extremes. It feels like the product of somebody with just enough knowledge of literary analysis to be hilarious. Agents are GO! has a new favorite as of 02:25 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Agents are GO! posted:The funniest thing in that list is that the person who wrote it doesn't know the difference between "Romanize" and "Romanticize." In the age of autocorrect, I think it is wise to give latitude. The whole "You misspelled a word ergo your argument is invalid" is painfully middle school.
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2nd Amendment posted:In the age of autocorrect, I think it is wise to give latitude. The whole "You misspelled a word ergo your argument is invalid" is painfully middle school. I never said their argument was invalid due to misspelling (although I'd argue that using the wrong word entirely is different than a misspelling.) Their arguments are wrong all on their own, however the presence of misspellings and inappropriate words does indicate a lack of proofreading and a fundamentally unserious effort. If they're not making the effort to proofread, why should anyone make an effort to engage beyond mockery? Depending on the intended audience for this chart, the appropriate response ranges from "lol" if it was just for twitter or some other online trash heap, to "please see me during office hours" if this is an honest attempt at scholarship. Agents are GO! has a new favorite as of 02:34 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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I pretty much can't stand Neil Gaiman, but he's always seemed to be a genuinely open and caring person, and has always advocated for greater representation of all minorities in comics. Like for decades.
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Agents are GO! posted:The funniest thing in that list is that the person who wrote it doesn't know the difference between "Romanize" and "Romanticize." They put their account private when they got blowback, so I assume the second one.
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Skwirl posted:gently caress, I keep going back to that "problematic authors" list and it accuses Neil Gaiman of transphobia. I think even he would agree that there were issues with his portrayal of a trans woman in Sandman, but it's also literally the only depiction that existed of a trans woman in mainstream comics at the time. But to be fair, he also depicted the moon as a TERF....
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Yeah the "wrote a kissing scene in Anne Frank's house" made me lol irl what if we kissed in Anne Frank's house jk! unless...?
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uh does this guy not know that thats an extremely common pairing due to both being the least selected category on dating apps? dudes racist but like not trying to be just ignorant. also is he like from an all white semi liberal state like oregon or what i live in rural nc and the largest group of people who mask up are black. and asian people dating black people is such a thing there is a cute nick name for it. snergle has a new favorite as of 02:46 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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GreenMetalSun posted:Welp, that sucks. Does it? Seems like his just a fat old idiot. And that’s not a crime lol Was he being mean about it or something?
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Inceltown posted:Here is a clearer version of the list Whatever Colleen Hover did was so bad that this person couldn't even bring themself to describe it.
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snergle posted:uh does this guy not know that thats an extremely common pairing due to both being the least selected category on dating apps? dudes racist but like not trying to be just ignorant. So I hate that I can ALMOST explain this by looking at the replies. This guy is really lovely and thinks men in masks are effeminate. That's why he's surprised the black woman is wearing the mask. Because of really lovely racism/femininity/masculinity ideas. like I had this terrible flash of "Oh, I understand what his brain is doing, AND I HATE IT." Don't know about his surprise that they're together though, and the last sentence is word salad. Midnight Voyager has a new favorite as of 03:04 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Agents are GO! posted:The funniest thing in that list is that the person who wrote it doesn't know the difference between "Romanize" and "Romanticize." Desdemona was white, or at least an English born noble and not Moorish. Obviously White and Black as we currently understand it didn't exist as terms when Shakespeare was presenting new works.
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grittyreboot posted:Whatever Colleen Hover did was so bad that this person couldn't even bring themself to describe it. What I saw before she privated everything, it was because her books have toxic relationships and an underage teen in a relationship with an adult. She also gave Colleen Hoover a 4 or 5 star review - I can probably pull that up when get home.
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snergle posted:uh does this guy not know that thats an extremely common pairing due to both being the least selected category on dating apps? dudes racist but like not trying to be just ignorant. I would like to know the cute nickname
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Skwirl posted:Oh god, does anyone know about Virginia Wolf doing blackface and speaking in gibberish to pass as a foreign dignitary? Because holy gently caress that sounds like a hilarious story. The Dreadnought Hoax
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Midnight Voyager posted:So I hate that I can ALMOST explain this by looking at the replies. oh so i took what he said the totally wrong way i thought he was just suprised an asian dude was dating a black lady and that the asian guy wasnt wearing a mask since they wear masks in alot of asian countries during flu season etc. Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:I would like to know the cute nickname blasian
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snergle posted:oh so i took what he said the totally wrong way i thought he was just suprised an asian dude was dating a black lady and that the asian guy wasnt wearing a mask since they wear masks in alot of asian countries during flu season etc. He may have also thought that! But judging by the people who follow this guy and some other things he's said, he totally thinks some gross poo poo. He's pals with Matty Yglesias and he tweeted at GREAT LENGTH about how awful mask mandates were.
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Midnight Voyager posted:So I hate that I can ALMOST explain this by looking at the replies. It's a conclusion that takes a lot of leaps to get to and assumes everybody else operates on the same set of moon logic. I think you're definitely hitting on something there - Asian men = feminine/not masculine/masks are for pussies, but probably also Black woman = strong & assertive & wears the pants. Throw in how weird some people get about Asian men dating outside their ethnicity and assume he's either a soyboy cuck or the partner is a rice queen Just a whole bunch of awful stereotypes rolled up into one smooth brained poo poo sandwich snergle posted:blasian I've only heard this used for Afro-Asians before, not for mixed dating
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CelticPredator posted:Does it? Seems like his just a fat old idiot. And that’s not a crime lol I mean, yeah, it sucks. I don't think he should do time in a federal prison or anything, but it's kinda lovely for the reasons the other poster described.
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Inceltown posted:Here is a clearer version of the list I disagree with the Jim Butcher entry, it should have misogyny on the list.
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OP can you not post straight up racism in the thread?
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Anne Rice absolutely got shitfaced and fought people in the comments about how good her books work but I don't think that makes her problematic, it makes her relatable.
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Skwirl posted:Desdemona was white, or at least an English born noble and not Moorish. Obviously White and Black as we currently understand it didn't exist as terms when Shakespeare was presenting new works. Thanks for the correction.  That's the only Shakespeare I've ever seen as live theater, and it's been like 20 years.
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Yeah, Iago tells Desdemona’s father “an old black ram is tupping your white ewe” in a scornful way, so the theme of racism is central there. I don’t think there is a single female character in Shakespeare who is depicted as of any background people might describe as “Black” today, which I guess is misogynoir by omission? I find that list so bizarre because it flattens all wrongdoing to one level. Murder (or manslaughter), child sexual abuse, and mocking book bloggers all seem to be presented as equally bad. I like that J. M. Barrie gets two racisms.
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:
sorry when i said a cute nickname i ment for t heir kids.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Yeah, Iago tells Desdemona’s father “an old black ram is tupping your white ewe” in a scornful way, so the theme of racism is central there.
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Agents are GO! posted:It honestly seems like the books-I've-read-list of a college freshman or highschool senior. She’s apparently a 20 year old so sounds about right.
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Skwirl posted:He's got some weird race stuff in his earlier work, but like the issues with his writing of a trans woman in 1992 or whenever, it probably comes from being a cis white dude in his 20s making a conscious effort to include cultures and people that weren't him. OTOH Neil Gaiman is married to Amanda Palmer which has got to be problematic in some sort of way. Also she was a Brit in the first half of the twentieth century so it can be safely assumed she was racist against somebody. Vincent Van Goatse has a new favorite as of 05:16 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:OTOH Neil Gaiman is married to Amanda Palmer which has got to be problematic in some sort of way. Amanda "and then everybody stood up and clapped"* Palmer * Except for the standing up part, but totally insufferable anyway
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Wait he married the girl who got killed in twin peaks? I knew he was insufferably twee but headmates level relationships is next level.
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GreenMetalSun posted:Has GRRM actually been accused of anything other than being slow AF and writing gross sex? About a year or two ago another fantasy author accused him of being a serial rapist on Twitter and then very quickly deleted the tweet after a few hours and has never spoken of it again, and there has since been zero corroborating evidence or any additional accusers who have come forward. So it's up to you to flip that coin in your own mind on whether this is like one of those times people tried to blow the whistle on Bill Cosby before Hannibal Buress took him down, or was is it bullshit. GRRM is, at the very least, a lazy creep. Whether he's anything more than that, we will probably never know.
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