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Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Troubadour posted:

HIPAA relates to Covered Entities which are very specific. Medical providers, nursing homes, insurance providers etc. If you're a business and you store someone's doctor's note in their personnel file, that is not covered by HIPAA because the business is not a Covered Entity in 99% of cases.

That doesn't mean that a business can share private medical records without legal consequence. They just aren't covered by HIPAA. People throw around that term way too much. The US does not have real privacy laws and even the CCPA (local California law) sucks hard compared to the GDPR.

One big problem with HIPAA is that it manages the organizations that control data and not the data itself.

NAL so assume all of this is wrong until I get corrected by a real lawyer.

Yeah, that's what I meant, exactly.

I know I had to sign a HIPAA thing for teaching because of a very weird thing with how my school handles students with disabilities, so I'm aware that the periphery of HIPAA is a weird and complicated zone.

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Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Randalor posted:

Mark said he destroyed the copies he had recieved as soon as he realized he had them, right? I'm assuming that's what Reynar was SUPPOSED to have done, but had kept ahold of them for ~reasons~ and whoopsiedoodle, passed them along?

Reynal wanted to join the CT lawsuit - he applied to be a temporary lawyer despite not being licensed in CT (pro hac vice)

Judge approved Reynal's pro hac vice

Reynal withdrew from the case; he never filed an appearance - the appearance is, my understanding, what would give him permission to see the same stuff that Pattis can see.

Reynal received a hard drive from Pattis (we're not sure when) - this was probably bad because he had not filed the appearance

(We presuppose) Reynal caused the contents of the hard drive to be loaded onto his Dropbox account

Reynal sent a link to the Dropbox hard drive contents to Bankston (TX plaintff lawyer)

Bankston downloaded the contents (by his paralegal, who said hey look how big this is).

Bankston looked at contents, saw what he had, and tipped Reynal off, asking if he meant to send.

Bankston saw the medical documents, and immediately deleted them because he knew they were protected and not relevant.

Reynal responded "Please disregard" but then didn't apparently do any of the other stuff he should have like notifying Pattis

Bankston, having not received a formal privilege request about the contents sent in error, now has them legit despite the defense not wanting them to have it.

Bankston also shared the full hard drive back with the CT plaintiffs, because they have an information sharing agreement. The defense, notably, does not have that agreement, so the Pattis -> Reynal sharing was not appropriate.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Devor posted:

Legal stuff

Thanks! This a very helpful summary.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



So basically, after not joining the CT case, Reynal should have deleted the medical files (at the very least) but didn't because ??? (I'm guessing it's because he's bad at his job, as shown by this entire cluster gently caress of a trial).

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Randalor posted:

So basically, after not joining the CT case, Reynal should have deleted the medical files (at the very least) but didn't because ??? (I'm guessing it's because he's bad at his job, as shown by this entire cluster gently caress of a trial).

I imagine the excuse would be that it was a big pile of data and he hadn't gotten around to reading it all. He basically admitted that when he asked for another 10 days to go through it all and figure what should have been privileged. Folks just passing around gigs of data with no idea what's on it, what could go wrong?

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Devor posted:

HIPAA is a law, with a scope, which is mostly surrounding doctor's offices. When you say HIPAA to a lawyer, they will tell you about the law, and why it doesn't apply.

When many lay people say HIPAA, they are referring to general medical privacy.

Lawyers are concerned with general medical privacy - they just don't get there through HIPAA

I had a brick-stupid subordinate at work once who told someone that they couldn't say anything about a customer of ours "due to HIPPO law". She did not understand why I was shrieking laughter in the back; the sudden mental image of a hippo in a sherriff's department uniform and smokey bear hat, wearing mirrored shades while roaring at the dude had a lot to do with it. This workplace had absolutely nothing to do with the medical field, by the way.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

My memory of HIPPA is that it doesn't even ban who you can send data to. Sending privileged health information is blanket banned by default, HIPPA just explicitly tells patient care providers who they CAN send that info to in the interest of the patients well being.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Devor posted:

Reynal wanted to join the CT lawsuit - he applied to be a temporary lawyer despite not being licensed in CT (pro hac vice)

Judge approved Reynal's pro hac vice

Reynal withdrew from the case; he never filed an appearance - the appearance is, my understanding, what would give him permission to see the same stuff that Pattis can see.

Reynal received a hard drive from Pattis (we're not sure when) - this was probably bad because he had not filed the appearance

(We presuppose) Reynal caused the contents of the hard drive to be loaded onto his Dropbox account

Reynal sent a link to the Dropbox hard drive contents to Bankston (TX plaintff lawyer)

Bankston downloaded the contents (by his paralegal, who said hey look how big this is).

Bankston looked at contents, saw what he had, and tipped Reynal off, asking if he meant to send.

Bankston saw the medical documents, and immediately deleted them because he knew they were protected and not relevant.

Reynal responded "Please disregard" but then didn't apparently do any of the other stuff he should have like notifying Pattis

Bankston, having not received a formal privilege request about the contents sent in error, now has them legit despite the defense not wanting them to have it.

Bankston also shared the full hard drive back with the CT plaintiffs, because they have an information sharing agreement. The defense, notably, does not have that agreement, so the Pattis -> Reynal sharing was not appropriate.

The only step you missed is hard drive went from Pattis to the bankruptcy counsel (I think Lee) back during the first sham bankruptcy. He claims he never looked at it and just gave it to Reynal when he asked for it.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
Jury selection is back on for the Connecticut case starting tomorrow

quote:

Jury selection will resume on Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 10:00 a.m. The show cause hearing for
Attorney Pattis will resume on Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:00 a.m., in person, and the show cause
hearing for Attorney Reynal will take place in person on Thursday, August 25,2022 and Friday August
26,2022, at 10:00 a.m.

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020
https://youtu.be/5bSoQ7IQ8MU
A new Mark Bankston interview!

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

:italy: Glory to Italia! :italy:

Ayy!! This text is-a the color of marinara! Ohhhh!! Dat's amore!!

Not gonna lie, he's getting really good at these interviews. Some of his earlier ones were more politician-style grandstandy like he didn't know how to best use the time for each question.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴

FoolyCharged posted:

My memory of HIPPA is that it doesn't even ban who you can send data to. Sending privileged health information is blanket banned by default, HIPPA just explicitly tells patient care providers who they CAN send that info to in the interest of the patients well being.

It's HIPAA not HIPPA but more or less, covered entities are restricted in how they can collect and disclose identifiers connected to health information, and authorization is generally required for those. You authorize a hospital to collect and use your information, and potentially to disclose it for things like research purposes. HIPAA waivers for research are a thing, but they generally require researchers to talk about why they can't get authorization in the first place ("we're looking at records from 10,000 patients from a 15 year period to find relevant cases"), why that's the minimum necessary to accomplish their goals ("because this is rare and we need to comb through 10,000 records to find enough to be statistically significant") and explain how they'll be protecting confidentiality ("we're going to put this on an unsecured, unprotected usb drive with tons of other unrelated data and just give the whole thing to anyone who needs anything that might be on it").

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Baron von Eevl posted:

It's HIPAA not HIPPA but more or less, covered entities are restricted in how they can collect and disclose identifiers connected to health information, and authorization is generally required for those. You authorize a hospital to collect and use your information, and potentially to disclose it for things like research purposes. HIPAA waivers for research are a thing, but they generally require researchers to talk about why they can't get authorization in the first place ("we're looking at records from 10,000 patients from a 15 year period to find relevant cases"), why that's the minimum necessary to accomplish their goals ("because this is rare and we need to comb through 10,000 records to find enough to be statistically significant") and explain how they'll be protecting confidentiality ("we're going to put this on an unsecured, unprotected usb drive with tons of other unrelated data and just give the whole thing to anyone who needs anything that might be on it").

healthcare IT is magical

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 6 days!)

RFC2324 posted:

healthcare IT is magical

Try GxP pharma IT

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
The FDA is reasonable and just.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

We have won the battle against ourselves: we love the FDA.

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Among many other things, Ben Garrison doesn't understand how perspective works.

Adept Nightingale
Feb 7, 2005


That bullhorn is way too big to belong to Alex.

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!
Alex Jones to pay ou ultra$million dollars in damages.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004


This is so inaccurate, nobody expects Alex Jones to shut up. Fucker'll probably be spouting nonsense as they're shoveling dirt on top of his coffin.

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



Lol he drew AJ at a solid 3'5".

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Agents are GO! posted:

This is so inaccurate, nobody expects Alex Jones to shut up. Fucker'll probably be spouting nonsense as they're shoveling dirt on top of his coffin.

hosed couldn't even shut up after opposing counsel reminded him of his right to.

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin

He did correctly portray Alex's lack of neck tho

Grape job, Garrison

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
What is supposed to be representing the new world order, a previously unknown species of grape-headed humanoids?

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

bird food bathtub posted:

What is supposed to be representing the new world order, a previously unknown species of grape-headed humanoids?

I think they're supposed to be human turtles from that flipping Master of Disguise movie.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
He's a bit grinch-y.

GoingPostal
Jun 1, 2015


I love Derek Smart
U love Derek Smart
If we didn't love Derek Smart, we'd be lame
Lich Mitch McConnell?

Powerful Katrinka
Oct 11, 2021

an admin fat fingered a permaban and all i got was this lousy av

Regrettable posted:

Lol he drew AJ at a solid 3'5".

And with no neck lol

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
AJ, famous for being censored by a judge he is actively calling a pedophile on his show.

Oh wait, he's still doing it.

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



The best part of this will be if Jones does somehow try to rein it in, his fanbase will think he's sold out to the Jews globalists and betray him immediately.

nominal
Oct 13, 2007

I've never tried dried apples.
What are they?
Pork Pro

Powerful Katrinka posted:

And with no neck lol

His neck is freakishly largely nonexistent

Fucking Moron
Jan 9, 2009

Just checking in to see if Alex Jones's dick got posted yet.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


loving Moron posted:

Just checking in to see if Alex Jones's dick got posted yet.

it did, but it's so small it doesn't register.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

loving Moron posted:

Just checking in to see if Alex Jones's dick got posted yet.

No and it isn't going to. Unless one of Jones' personal attorneys leaks them, there's no way for them to get out. I trust Mark Bankston when he says he deleted/redacted anything like that before even his staff got access to things.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
mark release the dick pics

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

loving Moron posted:

Just checking in to see if Alex Jones's dick got posted yet.

8=D

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
ok sorry that was just a joke

the actual picture is here :nws:

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Mozi posted:

ok sorry that was just a joke

the actual picture is here :nws:

Hello my baby
Hello my darling

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funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
I had no idea those gay frogs packed so much heat. No wonder Alex was terrified and infatuated with them

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