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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 17 minutes!

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Crowsbeak is an incredibly bizarre poster and you should probably just glaze over anything he has to say

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The most patriotic group in the US are the liberals upset at 1/6 because it violated the sanctity of the sacred US Capitol.
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1347007078729211904?s=20&t=2bhKwsZIOlI8xJV_mIVvYg
https://twitter.com/Laura_Figueroa/status/1479095423277187072?s=20&t=2bhKwsZIOlI8xJV_mIVvYg

The followers of US Civic Religion are a bunch of weirdos, but this is the logical end result of a US patriotism without explicit white supremacy. Just gotta worship the Constitution and the buildings.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

Ytlaya posted:

Crowsbeak has basically made a religion of "owning the libs," taking the sentiment as far as "saying bad things about the Republicans means you're a lib" (as in those Ben Norton tweets)

guess what the tweet crowsbeak didn't link said lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

Atrocious Joe posted:

The followers of US Civic Religion are a bunch of weirdos, but this is the logical end result of a US patriotism without explicit white supremacy. Just gotta worship the Constitution and the buildings.

What gets me the most is how they pretend we're not an empire.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Bolsheviks were very actively opposed to Great Russian chauvinism. Even if you want to cosplay as them while promoting American patriotism, you'd still have to be extremely critical of white supremacy.

I guess fly this flag instead of the traditional colors if you want to use a familiar iconography.


I may just be describing the goal of Nikole Hannah-Jones with the 1619 Project now. Her whole thing was creating a redemption narrative across US history to justify patriotism today.

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

I don't think you really "get" Crowsbeak, the most fervent disciple of Glennism

Whoa, you were right.

Anyway, I like the multipolarista series with this Aaron Good guy and my library has his book so I'm excited to get started on this.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Crowsbeak shut the gently caress up.

Nah. I’ll tell it as it is narcissist.

Also lol NHJ is a fraud.

Also saying you oppose American Empire is a good way to do things. Not saying America in inherently evil.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Crowsbeak posted:

Also saying you oppose American Empire is a good way to do things. Not saying America in inherently evil.

America is the most fundamentally evil nation on the planet

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

crowsbeak reading the big book of american atrocities: i can fix her

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
bens biggest crime is wanting to be known as benjamin instead of ben

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Atrocious Joe posted:

The most patriotic group in the US are the liberals upset at 1/6 because it violated the sanctity of the sacred US Capitol.
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1347007078729211904?s=20&t=2bhKwsZIOlI8xJV_mIVvYg

Pelosi wants to surpass Dick Cheney on draconian security state policy because a malnourished CHUD took a poo poo on her desk.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

oh nooooo looks like Caleb left twitter. now where will Crowsbeak get his spanking tips?



https://twitter.com/jesuslasupajew/status/1561121925316988928?s=20&t=GPk_4WEwoJdmpw2hTKKWFw

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

he's right

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

Ben put the curse on Jackson Hinkle.

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1560813988182536193?s=20&t=GPk_4WEwoJdmpw2hTKKWFw

He's choosing to die on the hill that it was wrong to ban Tate off of social media. He's getting massive pushback on this because even reactionary leftists have to ostensibly care about misogyny and pimping.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Ben put the curse on Jackson Hinkle.

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1560813988182536193?s=20&t=GPk_4WEwoJdmpw2hTKKWFw

He's choosing to die on the hill that it was wrong to ban Tate off of social media. He's getting massive pushback on this because even reactionary leftists have to ostensibly care about misogyny and pimping.

Lol Jesus

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1561095417277714433?s=20&t=gpebVHegFsSztablJETTYQ

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

https://twitter.com/roun_sa_ville/status/1561178644424409090?s=20&t=63hOPgmcvu9wujz4np3i3A

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Andrew Tate doesn't even hold any kind of political power, of what use is it to side with that rear end in a top hat

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

lol

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002


He’s right about one thing - Vaush is creepy

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

gradenko_2000 posted:

Andrew Tate doesn't even hold any kind of political power, of what use is it to side with that rear end in a top hat

The same reason they keep doubling down on weird reactionary kultur talking points. They're a desperate bunch of pickmes who think they're going to dupe conservatives into becoming "communist."

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 17 minutes!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The same reason they keep doubling down on weird reactionary kultur talking points. They're a desperate bunch of pickmes who think they're going to dupe conservatives into becoming "communist."

It's so funny. The conservatives with $10000000 trucks, atvs, and other poo poo like that are part of the petit bourgeoisie that nearly every marxist text warns about.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The same reason they keep doubling down on weird reactionary kultur talking points. They're a desperate bunch of pickmes who think they're going to dupe conservatives into becoming "communist."

I'm not sure if they really think that, or if they only think/say that as a sort of reactionary/contrarian thing against what they perceive as "social justice warriors"

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

AnimeIsTrash posted:

It's so funny. The conservatives with $10000000 trucks, atvs, and other poo poo like that are part of the petit bourgeoisie that nearly every marxist text warns about.

They dismiss that by saying they're talking about the "Republican working class." Ok, labor aristocrats aside, to reach out to any "working class" you need an organized party to do it. It's not "reaching out" to post words of encouragement to MGT on social media, like you're gonna be hand in hand with Republicans taking down the FBI.

Ytlaya posted:

I'm not sure if they really think that, or if they only think/say that as a sort of reactionary/contrarian thing against what they perceive as "social justice warriors"

Well you can't divest what they "think" from how they operate as social media brands. The main reason they double down on this stuff is because being a little reactionary and exploiting peoples' good faith is how they got so many views in the first place.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 05:49 on Aug 21, 2022

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Crowsbeak posted:

Also lol yeah you’re totally going to get the proletariat on your side by promising to destroy their nation. I know a lot of you think America is uniquely evil. But I have a secret all nations can engage in imperialism and all can also potentially take part in liberation from the imperial project of Wall Street, London, and Langley.

america is uniquely evil hth

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
oh wait i remember crowsbeak now

Crowsbeak posted:

I mean. You can say the working class lives in a false consciousness. But that doesn’t change that a good number see unlimited immigration as not in their material interests. Which if that’s who you wish to appeal to on grounds that materially you will improve their lives it’s best to not dispel that.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I've been making the mistake of wasting my time arguing with Xiangyu on twitter and a bunch of his hangers on, and one thing I've noticed about the "pragmatic east asian communist" crowd is how often they fall back on just-so tautologies as thought killing phrases. Whatever they say is true because it is true, there's no drive to investigate or admit to real world conditions, which is especially difficult if you're trying to illustrate why Taiwan is equivalent to a first world country. It's a mode of thought built around sloganeering and CPC fetishization rather than any kind of praxis.

https://twitter.com/revdefeat/status/1561195409661300737?t=IIvRlVs9rkb52eocOlqjzw&s=19

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

Andrew Tate doesn't even hold any kind of political power, of what use is it to side with that rear end in a top hat

vice-signaling

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)


While you cryin over Lady Durkina I'm cryin cuz I lost my Derpina

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

Benny as always being the good Demon Rat sheepdog. https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1561035513057927168

Also what triggers you all about Caleb ? I mean he does more work then Benny ever did against imperialism.

Also lol yeah you’re totally going to get the proletariat on your side by promising to destroy their nation. I know a lot of you think America is uniquely evil. But I have a secret all nations can engage in imperialism and all can also potentially take part in liberation from the imperial project of Wall Street, London, and Langley.

Cancelling Ben Norton for the crime of disparaging the party of the Proletariat, the GOP.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

It's so funny. The conservatives with $10000000 trucks, atvs, and other poo poo like that are part of the petit bourgeoisie that nearly every marxist text warns about.
my brother married into this rural WASP family. real rednecks. and it was interesting to hear him talk about their politics, because the younger ones who leveled up into that mid-range petit bourgeoisie are basically a bunch of fascists, in his telling. one, he says, is an "outright fascist." but the others, who are lower down the income scale, including some older ones in their 70s and 80s, have been completely checked out of politics their whole lives, never voted ever, and instinctively distrusted trump when he showed up.

like, "you know, trump... i don't think i like 'em." like his vulgar rear end in a top hat behavior and so on.

trump supporters storm the capitol. one cousin: "that reminded me of what happened in, erm... almost like... hitler's germany... you know like... the nazis...."

brother: "so what you're saying is... trump supporters... are nazis."

cousin [brain starting to move from the perceptual to the logical]: "well.......... yeah!"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crowsbeak posted:

Lol. Hitlerite to you means defending Comrade Ortega. Also look a medium post I just saw needs more to it. It could be something but then after me too I need more then just a medium post. I need people to come forward. As in faces. If they do then it is true. If they don’t. Well MeToo taught me to be cautious of just a medium post.
ahh, crows, it's most of his own org writing in that medium post. you don't have to believe anything, they're walking out the door and that's the end of it.

Crowsbeak posted:

Also what triggers you all about Caleb ? I mean he does more work then Benny ever did against imperialism.

Also lol yeah you’re totally going to get the proletariat on your side by promising to destroy their nation.
serious question, but do you think caleb maupin was doing a great job of this? i understand that the U.S. left is very weird and plays with a lot of ultra-leftist rhetoric. but the plot twist is that caleb maupin is himself a deeply weird person.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Maupin? Just lol if you trust the French

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

genericnick posted:

Cancelling Ben Norton for the crime of disparaging the party of the Proletariat, the GOP.

The Grand Old Proletariat

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

evilpicard posted:

America is the most fundamentally evil nation on the planet

Yeah when people outside your self constructed bubble hear you say that they shut down completely. Look I understand this country has horrible mental health care but you need to talk to someone In Real Life, who isn’t an enabler. I do pray for man hear to get that help. It would probably help socialism in the west as whole.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 15:07 on Aug 21, 2022

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

crepeface posted:

oh wait i remember crowsbeak now

Where was I wrong?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Yeah it’s fascist to be concerned that there was an assassination of the daughter of a major advisor to a country currently in a proxy war with the USA.

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

You're getting owned left and right by people way smarter than you and it's hilarious to watch

Just look at the little guy go lol

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.

Crowsbeak posted:

Yeah it’s fascist to be concerned that there was an assassination of the daughter of a major advisor to a country currently in a proxy war with the USA.

hmm

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Fortaleza posted:

You're getting owned left and right by people way smarter than you and it's hilarious to watch

Just look at the little guy go lol

Yeah. It’s smart to celebrate the assassination of a nuclear powers officials. Very intelligent . That won’t make a world war more certain would it. But Hey I must be a dummy to oppose assassination.

In the end the left is finished. Labor thank god as the UK is showing has a future (and hopefully the illegal but just strike by rail workers in the USA against Buffet)but it will not be lead by those who even if they refuse to admit are entirely lead by the insane ghosts of 1968.

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