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Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Clark Nova posted:

biden has nothing to do with this, you're paying taxes to the actual government: exxon-mobil

I'm not, because I haven't bought gas in months. So I want my $100 a month.

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Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2022/08/19/elderly-woman-drives-car-onto-second-floor-mall-escorted-out/7844945001/

This woman was apparently so out of it that she drove her can into a mall, but none of the police told her to get out of the car?? They just helped her drive back out??? What the gently caress!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Cops aint gonna gently caress with the aarp

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




If I were one of those cops, I would simply drive the car back out myself. Except I'd be a cop, so instead I'd do the laziest thing and let the senile driver potentially run over some people or drive off the ledge.

wash bucket
Feb 21, 2006

Fitzy Fitz posted:

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2022/08/19/elderly-woman-drives-car-onto-second-floor-mall-escorted-out/7844945001/

This woman was apparently so out of it that she drove her can into a mall, but none of the police told her to get out of the car?? They just helped her drive back out??? What the gently caress!

Cops don't want to be filmed being mean to grandma.

Kicked Throat
Apr 12, 2005
malls are ableist in a lot of ways, perhaps a driving lane is needed. i know i wish i had a car when the kiosk salespeople approach me!

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Also too bad prices are sticky, whoops

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


McCracAttack posted:

Cops don't want to be filmed being mean to grandma.

https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1268892701585530880

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
If you rear-end someone then literally the only explanation is that you were following too close for the conditions.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

that is true, you should always leave enough distance between yourself and the car in front of you to safely come to a stop without hitting them if they suddenly slam on their brakes. rule of thumb is what, three seconds in sunny/dry conditions?

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

that's da MINIMUM

mystes
May 31, 2006

Fitzy Fitz posted:

If I were one of those cops, I would simply drive the car back out myself. Except I'd be a cop, so instead I'd do the laziest thing and let the senile driver potentially run over some people or drive off the ledge.
I think the correct cop response is to taser the elderly driver, resulting in a heart attack, and then run over some pedestrians yourself and say the elderly driver did it

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Also if you crash into anything then the only explanation is that you were driving too fast for the conditions. Doesn't matter if it starts out as a brake check, a child running out from behind a parked car, or a police barricade.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
best kind of rear endings are at stoplights where the rear end in a top hat is clearly assuming that the driver in front of them is going to run a red light

Dog Case
Oct 7, 2003

Heeelp meee... prevent wildfires
I love leaving a safe amount of space and then getting aggressively tailgated because some shitass thinks all that space ahead means I could be going faster

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

lobster shirt posted:

that is true, you should always leave enough distance between yourself and the car in front of you to safely come to a stop without hitting them if they suddenly slam on their brakes. rule of thumb is what, three seconds in sunny/dry conditions?

at highway speeds like they are doing in that crash you should rule-of-thumb leave 10 car lengths between you and the car in front of you. it's trivial to judge this because there will be ten cars between you and the car in front of you on most highways at most hours of the day.

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop
oh hay car wreck story and elderly driver story, those are the best.

i was stopped at a red light when i was hit. this was very confusing because i had checked my mirror and the car behind me had stopped already. in fact an elderly woman had gone full speed into the stopped cars hard enough that that car 3 back plowed into the car 2 back, into the car behind me, into me.

we all pulled off to the side but she was completely out of it and just sitting there and then her car started moving when she passed out so i had to get into a moving car and hit the brakes for her so she didn't roll into oncoming traffic and die

this is the best possible system and it's critical that we make sure our elders have the freedom to get around by making more car, car everywhere, asphalt oceans. how would they get to their doctors appointments if they didn't have car, huh? why do you hate nana, you monster.

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

a spandex wearer cyclist told me ebikes like mine go too fast, told him i dont have it turned on

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Blockade posted:

a spandex wearer cyclist told me ebikes like mine go too fast, told him i dont have it turned on

turn on your motor

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



shoulda done a wheelie

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Blockade posted:

a spandex wearer cyclist told me ebikes like mine go too fast, told him i dont have it turned on

pretty wild how mad people are at spandex

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

pretty wild how mad people are at spandex

*looks for controversy section on Wikipedia* oh yeah? what about the environment!

quote:

In 2014, it was noted that most clothes containing spandex end up as non-recyclable waste once they have been worn out, because fabric blends containing spandex are difficult to recycle.[14] This contributes to the pollution of the environment.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

pretty wild how mad people are at spandex

spandex cyclists have a tendency to oppose cycle infrastructure because they are all rich white office dudes who want to ride fast on the road during lunch breaks and then drive home in their tesla, unimpeded by cycle or bus lanes

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

i went for a bike ride today and wore lycra. namaste

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!



E: I love being overtaken or kept up with by older people on e-bikes, while I'm lycra-ing on the bike paths (as is the rule here in NL). My late-60s neighbours have all bought e-bikes to extend their range and/or keep cycling for as long as possible.

Bobstar has issued a correction as of 10:33 on Aug 21, 2022

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
The goal is actual infrastructure is that anyone can use it, it is also why “bike gutters” are nearly useless and why most North American bike infrastructure is disastrous.

Also yeah the disabled/elderly thing is humorous considering getting on a bus is going to be much easier than drive a car.

Kicked Throat
Apr 12, 2005
i dunno why... seeing this made me say i hate cars all over again.

larper
Apr 9, 2019

Bobstar posted:



E: I love being overtaken or kept up with by older people on e-bikes, while I'm lycra-ing on the bike paths (as is the rule here in NL). My late-60s neighbours have all bought e-bikes to extend their range and/or keep cycling for as long as possible.

I like that more people are biking. I dislike that ebike riders overwhelmingly have zero sense of etiquette because they didn't ride a bike between age 17 and 50+ and don't get that being overtaken at 25mph on an incline without warning is stressful

the far end of the spectrum is the new coastal bike paths in manhattan... complete chaos

larper
Apr 9, 2019
Oh yeah also a cute octogenarian couple got creamed by a driver in my previous town of Easthampton MA and I had to leave the town facebook groups because of the sheer inhumanity of the comments and you can't tell these people they are loving idiots without the fb algorithm burying your post.

Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

larper posted:

I like that more people are biking. I dislike that ebike riders overwhelmingly have zero sense of etiquette because they didn't ride a bike between age 17 and 50+ and don't get that being overtaken at 25mph on an incline without warning is stressful

the far end of the spectrum is the new coastal bike paths in manhattan... complete chaos

Maybe it's a regional thing, but most of the ebikers I've come across have been just fine.

I think it's too easy to end up like the people who cry about lycra every thread and let confirmation bias lead us to making an enemy of people we should be building solidarity with.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA

Weembles posted:

Maybe it's a regional thing, but most of the ebikers I've come across have been just fine.

I think it's too easy to end up like the people who cry about lycra every thread and let confirmation bias lead us to making an enemy of people we should be building solidarity with.

:same:

a_pineapple
Dec 23, 2005


E bikes are good and cool and I think they will do a lot to get people out of their cars.

That said, I fuckin SMOKED an E-biker the other day on the trail it kicked rear end.

mystes
May 31, 2006

When electric scooters first started appearing, a lot of people were riding them poorly just because... they had probably never ridden them before. Now everyone I see riding electric scooters (or EUCs or whatever) clearly rides them a lot and is perfectly courteous.

I think there's the same situation with ebikes right now. Since the number of people who own them is still expanding rapidly, a large proportion of the people who have them at any given time just bought them and aren't used to them yet.

Even if some people are being dumb with them right now, I'd still rather that people be riding ebikes rather than cars. And even if a lot of people are just riding them as a leisure activity, it's literally impossible to understate just how important it is just to 1) get more bikes on the roads and 2) increase the number of people who ride bikes even just SOME of the time in terms of changing how people think about bikes and bike infrastructure.

If ebikes are the magic that can get the US to a point where a significant percentage of american adults ride bikes some of the time (and can get pissed off at drivers behaving shittily and the state of bike infrastructure) they could be the best thing to ever happen to cycling in the US

mystes has issued a correction as of 17:29 on Aug 21, 2022

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Even the worst cyclist is probably still better than the average motorist

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Fitzy Fitz posted:

Even the worst cyclist is probably still better than the average motorist

The best motorist, even

zero knowledge
Apr 27, 2008
it is a mistake to create a monolithic category out of people identified by some trivial characteristic (whether it's wearing tight-fitting exercise clothing or having an electric motor installed on their bicycle) and a worse mistake to flatten all distinctions within such categories, assigning them all uniform beliefs, behaviors, etc. (e.g., "all spandex cyclists are 'rich white office dudes'" or "all e-bike riders are 17-50 and have 'zero sense of etiquette'"). All you are doing is making yourself angry against a person that only exists in your head.

get this: some people own a carbon fiber road bike they use to post KOMs to Strava and also a cargo bike they use to take their kids to soccer practice.

An exception is that category of people who use cars, because cars are totalizing. You can be a cyclist but when you're not using the bike you can be something else. cars and the network of support they require are so pervasive through the lives of their operators and the societies we all live in that none of us, at any time, can stop thinking about cars, our cars, that guy's car, the cars in the street I'm trying to cross, the millions of cars that make the air unfit to breathe and the cities impossible for humans to live in.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Kicked Throat posted:

i dunno why... seeing this made me say i hate cars all over again.


are you in the uptown area?

Kicked Throat
Apr 12, 2005

actionjackson posted:

are you in the uptown area?

that picture was taken near uptown 0:)

also paid pilgrimage to this sacred space

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Kicked Throat posted:

that picture was taken near uptown 0:)

also paid pilgrimage to this sacred space


you should post in the minneapolis thread, it's by far the most active of any of the city ones

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Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

the truck is hanging off the side of the driveway so he did indeed miss his parking :downsrim:

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