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All interfaces need to be like the one in Lt. Tom Paris's 'Alice' ship where you 'bond' with it.
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Walrusmaster posted:For an anecdotal data point, I bought a 2021 bolt in April of 2021 for $19k, but that included a $2k CA rebate and ~$3500 trade-in. You might be in the ballpark? I'm ashamed that I missed this pic of a blue bolt. NICE CAR!
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It's a Blolt
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Nfcknblvbl posted:It's a Blolt TEAM BLOLT
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cruft posted:LMFAO if you think Starfleet hadn't deployed rear end-detection logic by stardate 42353. Sorry, they didn’t pony up the 15,000 in gold pressed latinum bars for that feature. Should’ve bought it when it was at 8k bars.
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My parents sent me this picture from the road trip they've been on in their EV. While charging their 2021 EV6 they met someone in the parking lot with their 1921 Model T, and thought it was a neat enough coincidence to get a photo of 2 cars separated by exactly 100 years of development together. 
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cruft posted:LMFAO if you think Starfleet hadn't deployed rear end-detection logic by stardate 42353. Man, they didn't even figure out how to not run high voltage plasma through computer panels by then. Even our dumbass auto manufacturers have user interface on the 12V accessory system instead of the 800 volt traction system.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Man, they didn't even figure out how to not run high voltage plasma through computer panels by then. Even our dumbass auto manufacturers have user interface on the 12V accessory system instead of the 800 volt traction system. So if I sit on a Tesla screen, it won’t blow up?
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It will, but not for that reason
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Eyes Only posted:This is an important thing to keep in mind for anyone comparing a single country in western Europe to the entire United States, for any reason. Significant portions of the US are akin to developing countries in some ways. *chuckles in SR826.*
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Tom Guycot posted:My parents sent me this picture from the road trip they've been on in their EV. This owns.
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Normal Barbarian posted:I will (most likely) be making too much for that, alas. Wow betide me. I have a lot of experience fitting large vehicles into tiny spaces (used to fuel airplanes) so no, I don't miss the surround view. The bolt is very nimble and easy to park. I'm also probably not the best person to ask because I generally don't even use the rearview camera much, I just turn around and look out the back. I emailed all the dealers in the area and gave them all the opportunity to beat the best price. It wasn't terribly difficult, but it was also early 2021 before they stopped making all the cars ever. I saw both kinetic and Oasis blue in person. Oasis was ok, but I really preferred kinetic. And yes to everyone I agree, it's definitely a blolt now 
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SlowBloke posted:Driving to meet my extended family outside the state requires me to pass near Aviano, so if i see the weird imports with non-standard plates, I need to give them about a car and change of space cause those troops drive like loving maniacs. If there was a way to identify Joe (other than the Dodge Charger/Challenger) via number plate here in the states everyone here would avoid him too. These are 18-25 year old young men hopped up on testosterone and peer pressure, they’re obviously the worst possible drivers in the world.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:If there was a way to identify Joe (other than the Dodge Charger/Challenger) via number plate here in the states everyone here would avoid him too. These are 18-25 year old young men hopped up on testosterone and peer pressure, they’re obviously the worst possible drivers in the world. When male elephants become teenage assholes and start loving everything up, they get kicked out of the herd. Just sayin'.
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as someone who knows very little about cars and even littler about ev outside of the numerous videos of teslas killing kids and blowing up, yet wants to get an ev to help the environment and save money on gas over continuing to drive their 2000 toyota avalon, where do i begin? is there a good primer post somewhere? do i just give details here and bandy about to help narrow down my choices? i’m pretty open to anything, so just let me know. i would start self-researching via google but i’m too stupid about cars or ev to even know where to start doing that, so forgive me. any help is appreciated! thanks.
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abelwingnut posted:as someone who knows very little about cars and even littler about ev outside of the numerous videos of teslas killing kids and blowing up, yet wants to get an ev to help the environment and save money on gas over continuing to drive their 2000 toyota avalon, where do i begin? is there a good primer post somewhere? do i just give details here and bandy about to help narrow down my choices? i’m pretty open to anything, so just let me know. i would start self-researching via google but i’m too stupid about cars or ev to even know where to start doing that, so forgive me. Yup, tell us what your budget is, and any requirements. Like some people are like "hard pass on Tesla" and other people are like "hard pass on dealerships". It'd also be handy to know what you'd like, but aren't married to. And lastly, let us know whether you have a parking spot near an electrical system that you own. Like, if you rent, that's going to flavor our recommendations.
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abelwingnut posted:as someone who knows very little about cars and even littler about ev outside of the numerous videos of teslas killing kids and blowing up, yet wants to get an ev to help the environment and save money on gas over continuing to drive their 2000 toyota avalon, where do i begin? is there a good primer post somewhere? do i just give details here and bandy about to help narrow down my choices? i’m pretty open to anything, so just let me know. i would start self-researching via google but i’m too stupid about cars or ev to even know where to start doing that, so forgive me.  But seriously, EVs are just cars with different fuel. The most important questions are "What do I need from a vehicle?", "What do I want in a vehicle?", and "What's my budget for a vehicle?" Most EVs right now are in the SUV/Crossover size category, but not all of them. So the first step is really defining what your requirements & limits are, then we can start with some guidance.
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abelwingnut posted:as someone who knows very little about cars and even littler about ev outside of the numerous videos of teslas killing kids and blowing up, yet wants to get an ev to help the environment and save money on gas over continuing to drive their 2000 toyota avalon, where do i begin? is there a good primer post somewhere? do i just give details here and bandy about to help narrow down my choices? i’m pretty open to anything, so just let me know. i would start self-researching via google but i’m too stupid about cars or ev to even know where to start doing that, so forgive me. Get a Tesla.
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bird with big dick posted:Get a Tesla. Make sure to pay $15k for full self driving. The car will earn you money by driving for Uber by itself while you sleep.
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VideoGameVet posted:The Sprinter EV has less than 100 mile range. Road tests of the Transit EV say 150 miles is possible, It’s 2WD by the way. Less than 100 is pretty terrible. 2wd is fine - the dirt bikes are for anything gnarly. Queen sized crosswise is pretty great. As is 250 miles. But not highroof, right? Tom Guycot posted:My parents sent me this picture from the road trip they've been on in their EV. Yeah, this is great. What'd the guy with the model t think about it? Seems happy enough to chat given the picture.
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abelwingnut posted:as someone who knows very little about cars and even littler about ev outside of the numerous videos of teslas killing kids and blowing up, yet wants to get an ev to help the environment and save money on gas over continuing to drive their 2000 toyota avalon, where do i begin? is there a good primer post somewhere? do i just give details here and bandy about to help narrow down my choices? i’m pretty open to anything, so just let me know. i would start self-researching via google but i’m too stupid about cars or ev to even know where to start doing that, so forgive me. It's simple. You post your requirements, then we totally ignore them and recommend what we personally own, and then bicker between ourselves about minor points nobody else cares about.
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knox_harrington posted:It's simple. You post your requirements, then we totally ignore them and recommend what we personally own, and then bicker between ourselves about minor points nobody else cares about. Just be sure whatever you buy is painted blue, op.
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cruft posted:Just be sure whatever you buy is painted blue, op. 
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One thing you should find out pretty quickly is if / how the new tax incentives for next year will impact your decision. The rules on which vehicles get the $7500 tax rebate are about to change dramatically. That may impact both your decision on which make/model to look at, and the timing of your purchase.
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the access to charging question is an important one. It basically kills my personal EV viability since I street park and rent.
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abelwingnut posted:as someone who [...] wants to get an ev to help the environment and save money on gas over continuing to drive their 2000 toyota avalon, where do i begin? If the environment is your primary motivator, keeping your current car and instead finding ways to drive less might be more beneficial. If you're going to get a new car regardless, then yeah, may as well swap to EV. The usual inputs to this calculation are: - Budget - Do you own a house with a driveway or a garage? - How many miles do you typically drive per day? - What is your longest trip in a week? Month? (long monthly trips may impact your desired max range, but a yearly or twice yearly trip shouldn't factor in)
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:The rules on which vehicles get the $7500 tax rebate are about to change dramatically. Very few models are eligible for the credit right now. Virtually no Korean or Japanese cars other than Nissan. No Teslas, no GM's, few European cars. For pure EV's (ie. not plug-in hybrids), the models currently eligible for the $7500 tax credit are: - Ford Mustang Mach-E - Ford F-150 Lightning - Ford Transit Van - Nissan Leaf - Rivian R1S/T (only the low-end trims) Everything else exceeds the price cap, isn't sufficiently manufactured in the US, or has met the old credit's manufacturer sales cap, which for some dumb reason doesn't disappear until the end of 2022. Beginning in 2023, all Teslas and GM sub-brand cars will become eligible again. So if you're looking at a Model 3 or a Chevy Bolt or whatever, definitely wait until then to buy. It's an easy $7500 direct discount for most people. It remains to be seen how lenient the rules will be for foreign manufacturers. Hyundai has complained that the new manufacturing rules violate the free trade agreement the US has with Korea, though they're accelerating their plans for a US-based battery factory just in case. I'm sure most foreign makers are scrambling as well, but it may be a while before the credit becomes available on many cars.
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cruft posted:Just be sure whatever you buy is painted blue, op. Wrong. https://www.google.com/search?q=bol...h=1266&dpr=1.13
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I like the GV60 in that crazy green too
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priznat posted:I like the GV60 in that crazy green too I’m hoping other people hate it so I can buy it at a discount because I like it too. But honestly I think it’s going to be a few years before I replace my current vehicle.
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Lord Decimus Barnacle posted:I’m hoping other people hate it so I can buy it at a discount because I like it too. But honestly I think it’s going to be a few years before I replace my current vehicle. I would rock that with the navy interior with the green piping, it looks cool as hell
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I'm buying a 2022 Chevy Bolt today, but I haven't put the deposit down on it yet. Am I eligible for the new $7500 tax credit?
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SoR Blaze posted:I'm buying a 2022 Chevy Bolt today, but I haven't put the deposit down on it yet. Am I eligible for the new $7500 tax credit?
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Wayne Knight posted:If the environment is your primary motivator, keeping your current car and instead finding ways to drive less might be more beneficial. If you're going to get a new car regardless, then yeah, may as well swap to EV. Even if you are buying a new car, consider if the extra money you spend on an EV over an equivalent ICE vehicle (about £10k in the UK) could be better spent elsewhere. In my case my mileage is low enough that a £12k air source heat pump and home battery were a much better carbon saving than a new EV.
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Russian Bear posted:That new purple that bmw has or some fashion of green. Got a quote for $3200 to wrap it in this 3M vinyl   
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bird with big dick posted:Got a quote for $3200 to wrap it in this 3M vinyl Is there a reason you'd do one over the other?
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WhiteHowler posted:I'm kind of clueless when it comes to this, but isn't that price in the same ballpark as getting a car professionally painted? One is reversible, the other isn't?
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I'm not sure $3200 buys you much of a paintjob here either. Tbh I'd expect to pay a minimum of about twice that for a quality one based off some of the work I've had done recently but I could be off.
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bird with big dick posted:I'm not sure $3200 buys you much of a paintjob here either. Tbh I'd expect to pay a minimum of about twice that for a quality one based off some of the work I've had done recently but I could be off. Allow me to introduce you to my friend Earl…
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