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MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Crowsbeak posted:

Ah. “You only oppose assassination of hot people by the Nazi cia backed Kiev regime”.

So we can rule out your mom then

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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's an explicitly self-serving stance to argue that we need to be "patriotic socialists" in the imperial core, like labor aristocrats were all going to jump on the CPI bandwagon because they waved the flag.

Anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ1sk4yo7qg

I don't expect anyone to watch this 2 hour stream because I sure as Hell won't, but the first 15 minutes are enough to see where it's going. Haz is real shook up by Dukina's assassination and the reaction to it, and now he's declaring that all "leftists" want to kill "us." He's also saying that they need to stop engaging with leftists online like they're going to, what, cloister themselves into their own bubble? Do they think the average American even knows who Dugin is? This poo poo is spinning out of control insanely fast, and it's going to waste a lot of time having to re-educate people who buy into this garbage.

I don't even get who they think they're trying to reach out to anymore. If this split in the online left is going to be over Dugin how can they claim to even be patriotic socialists? Dugin is the based anti-imperialist anti-American Eurasianist thought leader. Whatever else you can say about him he's explicitly anti-American. Who the Hell is any of this even for?

I don't have any idea who those streamer types are, but would it be fair to say that some dudes noticed that the chapo pod was making GBS threads money and they wanted in on that?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

genericnick posted:

Who gives a gently caress about any of this

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crowsbeak posted:

Indeed. True anti imperialists are based.

which streamers are that?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

genericnick posted:

I don't have any idea who those streamer types are, but would it be fair to say that some dudes noticed that the chapo pod was making GBS threads money and they wanted in on that?

It goes a little deeper than that.

https://twitter.com/RTSG_Prism_/status/1562261681866244096?s=20&t=PXbuOtf6YGx7YT5wJTNnDg

They actually think Dugin invented multipolarity.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Well they got Ben looking about right there. Meanwhile Ben for his insane comments gets owned by truth teller Sean P. McCarthy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NOTSeanMcCarthy/status/1562127683596713984

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
It rocks that there are a group of people who think patriotism in the imperial core is the same thing as patriotism in the global south.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

fixed

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Found this extremely sad account in the replies

https://twitter.com/axbIumenthal

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
Crowsbeak haz is correct in that leftcoms/western marxism is nothing more than liberals using communist iconography and aesthetics to appeal to the ever increasing reserve army of labor and destitute population but the solution to that is not to make concessions to rightwing ideology itself, no matter how insufferable liberalism and individualism gets, mmkay

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
Like this isn’t the first time american liberalism and European nazism made a loose alliance against russia but it still doesn’t mean im going to go all sentimental over a self-admitted, ideological fascist dying, even though assassinating high profile nationals should never be encouraged

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I don't even know who killed Dugina let alone what anyone is supposed to conclude from it

nyt alluded to but did not own the phrase "putin's brain" again though so lol

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

It rocks that there are a group of people who think patriotism in the imperial core is the same thing as patriotism in the global south.

Destroying the imperial order requires one be opposed to “spreading democracy” and “fighting for liberty everywhere”. It means saying “why should my tax dollars go to some war 7000 miles away from here”, it requires saying “we should bring the troops home”, it requires saying “imagine if the money we spent in these useless wars went to us”, it requires saying “ man I wish the factories were here and not 8000 miles across the pacific”. It means rejecting the order of the wto and free trade at any cost. All those things mentioned are cornerstones of imperialism if you make them seem against the nation and therefore unpatriotic which hey increasingly is the argument being made you are undermining imperialism. Note if you can also get it so the ruling class can no longer agree in the internal security apparatus as necessary you also have chipped away at a pillar of imperialism. If the imperial core maintains imperialism then its legitimacy must be imploded. So the nation or as in the case now nations . (Canzukaus , EU,and USA are all in on this) can no longer justify the imperialism and the leagues and agreements that allow them to maintain hegemony can be destroyed like has already happened with U.K. leaving the imperialist project that is the EU.

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

the white hand posted:

I don't even know who killed Dugina let alone what anyone is supposed to conclude from it

nyt alluded to but did not own the phrase "putin's brain" again though so lol

When you have the government of Ukraine trying to say Putin murdered her you know it was the Ukrainian government, classic machiavellian tactics

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Crowsbeak posted:

Destroying the imperial order requires one be opposed to “spreading democracy” and “fighting for liberty everywhere”. It means saying “why should my tax dollars go to some war 7000 miles away from here”, it requires saying “we should bring the troops home”, it requires saying “imagine if the money we spent in these useless wars went to us”, it requires saying “ man I wish the factories were here and not 8000 miles across the pacific”. It means rejecting the order of the wto and free trade at any cost. All those things mentioned are cornerstones of imperialism if you make them seem against the nation and therefore unpatriotic which hey increasingly is the argument being made you are undermining imperialism. Note if you can also get it so the ruling class can no longer agree in the internal security apparatus as necessary you also have chipped away at a pillar of imperialism. If the imperial core maintains imperialism then its legitimacy must be imploded. So the nation or as in the case now nations . (Canzukaus , EU,and USA are all in on this) can no longer justify the imperialism and the leagues and agreements that allow them to maintain hegemony can be destroyed like has already happened with U.K. leaving the imperialist project that is the EU.

this is gibberish

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Here are some flags of oppressed American populations that you can fly instead of the American one.



Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Here are some flags of oppressed American populations that you can fly instead of the American one.





Oh lol. 95% of Americans have no idea of what those are. And would probably put the person advocating adopting those flags in a mental institution.

Also :lol:. If destroying the legitimacy of imperial core dogma means nothing to you I don’t know what you understand. Ideology is required to maintain large scale imperial leagues and it requires at least passive compliance by the masses to said ideology in the core. The loss of that compliance is the death of the core.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
where would the money to do all this come from? if america is sitting on a bunch of stolen loot and it all gets given back, who the hell is gonna build up america past an emerging market?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

skipmyseashells posted:

where would the money to do all this come from? if america is sitting on a bunch of stolen loot and it all gets given back, who the hell is gonna build up america past an emerging market?

By the way did you go see someone about your constant fantasies about being dommed by Pat socs?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1508252044255277062?s=20&t=EBKu_XxsSDcPT41vicZaPA

Norton's been called a Duginist so is really touchy about where the term "multi-polar" comes from.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

Crowsbeak posted:

By the way did you go see someone about your constant fantasies about being dommed by Pat socs?

I’m begging you to stop talking like this is some hasan twitch chat for one day

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

skipmyseashells posted:

I’m begging you to stop talking like this is some hasan twitch chat for one day

So you have not . Look I am just concerned about your well being.

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Clearly.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
this whole bit you’re doing acting like I’m a prude for calling out maupin being a rapist is too much man. he didn’t purchase the services of a dominatrix, he gorilla pimped a woman more than half his age into creepy spanking sessions. and that’s without touching on how much of a lying hypocrite he is about it all


it’s one thing being a patsoc but let’s not defend rapists

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
it’s like talking about Epstein and having a guy go ‘well maybe you should explore your airplane sex kink then’

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Crowsbeak might be the dumbest poster in CSPAM and that's saying something

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

Crowsbeak posted:

So you have not . Look I am just concerned about your well being.

you have aids

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

you have aids

https://twitter.com/BNOFeed/status/1562262397934481409?t=DDys0NZzpkgFJyiIE014lg&s=19

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002


Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Well that person might just die.



AnimeIsTrash posted:

you have aids

I live well like Max. So thankfully not.


By the way this really explains a lot.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NOTSeanMcCarthy/status/1562459342711840771

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 16:50 on Aug 24, 2022

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

also saying that they need to stop engaging with leftists online
lol i think that's the equivalent of saying "this is my last post around here... and you'll be sorry!"

and thank god :byewhore:

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Crowsbeak might be the dumbest poster in CSPAM and that's saying something

Definitely up there with grandpa palpatine

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

Crowsbeak posted:

Well that person might just die.

I live well like Max. So thankfully not.


By the way this really explains a lot.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NOTSeanMcCarthy/status/1562459342711840771

https://twitter.com/toostonedtospel/status/1562460130821566464?s=21&t=qrt2w9aVOJJJr2FB-jaKlw

‘we can convince them that we have more in common than they do with the elite!!’

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
or are you gonna lie and say troops are mostly poor Americans that just needed the money

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
the uncle sam respecter

it's always strange to hear people say the problem is that americans aren't worshipping the flag and troops enough. there are few countries that do it harder than the ol' USA. but i chalk it up to a worry that more younger people now aren't doing it as much, and don't feel much urge to ever do it again.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

skipmyseashells posted:

https://twitter.com/toostonedtospel/status/1562460130821566464?s=21&t=qrt2w9aVOJJJr2FB-jaKlw

‘we can convince them that we have more in common than they do with the elite!!’

So yes you do agree with Sean’s point.

By the way seen a psychologist yet?

Also it’s not just about being a Uncle Sam respect or. Melanchon shows actual support for Chinese anti imperialism and opposes the imperialism in France while still loving France. It is what works and hey the Anglophones here including the Dom fetishes who claims he’s African instead insist all can be accomplished by instead declaring America should be burned to the ground. At the end I live in the real world and some for what reasons I bet are what Sean said will not.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 17:32 on Aug 24, 2022

Clark Nova
Jul 18, 2004

lmao "patriotic socialism" is too blatant to even call a dog whistle :godwin:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

Crowsbeak, you are the most embarrassing person on this entire forum. I would do like Peter and deny you, but never feel bad about it.

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Clark Nova posted:

lmao "patriotic socialism" is too blatant to even call a dog whistle :godwin:

National Patriotic American Workers Party

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Crowsbeak, you are the most embarrassing person on this entire forum. I would do like Peter and deny you, but never feel bad about it.

I accept your surrender.

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