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skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
that’s why half the notable members upgraded from ‘we need to secure a future for leftist white children’ into ‘we need to secure a future for white children’

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

skipmyseashells posted:

that’s why half the notable members upgraded from ‘we need to secure a future for leftist white children’ into ‘we need to secure a future for white children’

Where are the Nazis . Are they in the room with you now?

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
it honestly makes me sad one day your brain worms are gonna progress to where you wake up and think ‘globalists made transgenderism and hip hop and that’s why america is dying’ one day like maupin

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Gonna agree with paul and change my guess from meth to manic. Got the same sort of seething anger and nonsensicality but not sloppy enough like EPG

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

skipmyseashells posted:

it honestly makes me sad one day your brain worms are gonna progress to where you wake up and think ‘globalists made transgenderism and hip hop and that’s why america is dying’ one day like maupin

Who are you talking to? One again is that person in the room with you?

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Crowsbeak posted:

Where are the Nazis . Are they in the room with you now?

Where are the based anti-imperialists and CIA plant Hitlerites? Are they in the room with you now?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crowsbeak posted:

Also it’s not just about being a Uncle Sam respect or. Melanchon shows actual support for Chinese anti imperialism and opposes the imperialism in France while still loving France. It is what works and hey the Anglophones here including the Dom fetishes who claims he’s African instead insist all can be accomplished by instead declaring America should be burned to the ground. At the end I live in the real world and some for what reasons I bet are what Sean said will not.
they can wear floppy berets because they're french. different situation

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Where are the based anti-imperialists and CIA plant Hitlerites? Are they in the room with you now?

I mean the first one or at least the biggest one in the imperial core.

https://newsrnd.com/news/2022-08-06...ByXamY-369.html

The CIA hitlerites? I mean hey just watch Vaush or Dylan Burns (who litterally embedded himself with Nazis in UAF.) There’s a lot of bad actors on the internet

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

they can wear floppy berets because they're french. different situation

Cowboy hat beats the beret.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Crowsbeak posted:

The CIA hitlerites? I mean hey just watch Vaush or Dylan Burns (who litterally embedded himself with Nazis in UAF.) There’s a lot of bad actors on the internet

Why would I watch Vaush? You don't even know what you're arguing against

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pablo Nergigante posted:

Why would I watch Vaush? You don't even know what you're arguing against

I mean Ben Norton who just defended the Nazi regime of Kiev (which the cia backed) murdering a person outside of Moscow using the rhetoric of Vaush and Dylan.

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Floppy berets are a Basque thing and if you support French people wearing them you support their subjugation (whichis imperoalism (cia backing, natch)) of Euskal Herria

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Crowsbeak posted:

Dylan Burns (who litterally embedded himself with Nazis in UAF.)
this post is making me feel old in a good way because i have no idea who this is. crowsbeak, you're funny when you say things like this. "if you don't like caleb then you could always watch TODD DINGLER who works for the CIA!"

yeah sure, i bet he does but :wtc:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

this post is making me feel old in a good way because i have no idea who this is. crowsbeak, you're funny when you say things like this. "if you don't like caleb then you could always watch TODD DINGLER who works for the CIA!"

yeah sure, i bet he does but :wtc:

Dylan Burns was one of the Gravel Institute guys who then latched onto Destiny and Vaush.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
As an Asian let me just say gently caress THE TROOPS

not a single one of them deserves redemption

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1552747598095781889
https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1562450850639130626

the pro-CIA/Nazi Ukraine Benjamin Norton

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Crowsbeak posted:

Dylan Burns was one of the Gravel Institute guys who then latched onto Destiny and Vaush.

You just did it again

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Isn’t it bannable in D&D to point out zelensky is a straight up fascist lol

Like, banning socialist and communist parties, including Marxist iconography around the country, banning/abolishing labor laws, establishing the hegemony of neoliberal capital (while using neofascist/nazi muscle to accomplish this) throughout the land, etc. what more evidence do you need

Oh but he tows the american line on Putin so we’ll pretend he gives a gently caress about liberalism, human rights, and “democracy” now

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

uhhhh that’s just two cia groups fighting for control of cia hitlerite controlled Ukraine (that based anti-imperial Russia is fighting off for the good of all third worldists)

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

https://twitter.com/dklmarxist/status/1562450714613260289?s=20&t=D7X2HALL8w_SQwuEbMvVfQ

Sean McCarthy isn't making an appeal to pragmatism, he's attacking radicalism. There's no point treading old ground repeating the mistakes of the Social Democrats because you want demon crackers on your side.

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/dklmarxist/status/1562450714613260289?s=20&t=D7X2HALL8w_SQwuEbMvVfQ

Sean McCarthy isn't making an appeal to pragmatism, he's attacking radicalism. There's no point treading old ground repeating the mistakes of the Social Democrats because you want demon crackers on your side.

patsocs are just gonna say they’re hitlerite globalists that need to die to protect the innocent American troops and workers

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

skipmyseashells posted:

patsocs are just gonna say they’re hitlerite globalists that need to die to protect the innocent American troops and workers

They don't even know the word "Hitlerite." Crowsbeak is repeating it like a parrot.

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They don't even know the word "Hitlerite." Crowsbeak is repeating it like a parrot.

Parrots are more coherent than him

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

pat socs and abolitionists are both scared of seeming too extreme so they moderate there way back to endorsing mainstream views.

Pat Socs say we have to fight US imperialism by waving the US flag.

Abolitionists say we have to fight mass incarceration by not charging cops with assault or murder.

Turns out the most radical path is how society already functions.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

Where are the Nazis . Are they in the room with you now?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 26 days!)

Atrocious Joe posted:

Turns out the most radical path is how society already functions.

People read Kafka but view it through the lens of another world and not their own. As if the contradictions of modernity don't apply to us. If anything the world has only become more absurd in the last 100 years.

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
The greatest organizing body of our time is the American Empire. Don't like what's going on with Ukraine? I don't see you doing anything to get those people within our movement. You want to moralize and grandstand about nazis or bombs? Grow up and get some real politics. You're either with the working class or against it, and the working class is with the stars and stripes!

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Crowsbeak posted:

Also it’s not just about being a Uncle Sam respect or. Melanchon shows actual support for Chinese anti imperialism and opposes the imperialism in France while still loving France.

mélenchon's 'patriotism' is restricted to the legacy and symbols of the french revolution, the commune, the resistance and the french socialist tradition i.e. the very few events that french people could feel some kind of pride towards. it doesn't extend to a military that has only shown abjection and cowardice, or any other national narrative. otherwise, i doubt the working class youth from the cities would support him, since the ambivalence of the pcf towards french imperalism is one of the factors that doomed them.

tristeham has issued a correction as of 19:46 on Aug 24, 2022

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/dklmarxist/status/1562450714613260289?s=20&t=D7X2HALL8w_SQwuEbMvVfQ

Sean McCarthy isn't making an appeal to pragmatism, he's attacking radicalism. There's no point treading old ground repeating the mistakes of the Social Democrats because you want demon crackers on your side.

Radicalism is trying to offend any group that fights against imperialism.

Also lol now Melanchon is deniable because he incorporates a bourgeois revolution into his arguments. Kind of like Castro and Ortega. Must be why he’s successful.

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 20:07 on Aug 24, 2022

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
serious question that’s floating through my brain

let’s say the revolution happens. what happens when the global south rightfully says no when america asks for her factories back?

what happens when the Guatemalan farmers refuse to work for 5 cents, and also refuse to sell their bananas for Pennies on the dollar anymore?

what happens when the Idaho bean farmer and Texas cattle farmer start making incomes similar to the Guatemalan Banana farmer or Ethiopian cattle herder respectively?

what happens when Haiti and African Americans demand their rightful reparations?

what happens when Puerto Rico and Hawaii demand their independence again, on top of First Nations demanding their continent back? could you patsocs be happy with 13 colony style borders?

or when the entire world decides that a South American or Asian middle class is more sustainable than a western middle class living standard?

is Air Force Sam going to say “at least I have my American flag and ability to say that I don’t like gays or blacks” or will he say “I don’t care what america becomes, give it back to me”

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

I love the assumption that working class Americans love the flag.

Random Asshole
Nov 8, 2010

skipmyseashells posted:

serious question that’s floating through my brain

let’s say the revolution happens. what happens when the global south rightfully says no when america asks for her factories back?

what happens when the Guatemalan farmers refuse to work for 5 cents, and also refuse to sell their bananas for Pennies on the dollar anymore?

what happens when the Idaho bean farmer and Texas cattle farmer start making incomes similar to the Guatemalan Banana farmer or Ethiopian cattle herder respectively?

what happens when Haiti and African Americans demand their rightful reparations?

what happens when Puerto Rico and Hawaii demand their independence again, on top of First Nations demanding their continent back? could you patsocs be happy with 13 colony style borders?

or when the entire world decides that a South American or Asian middle class is more sustainable than a western middle class living standard?

is Air Force Sam going to say “at least I have my American flag and ability to say that I don’t like gays or blacks” or will he say “I don’t care what america becomes, give it back to me”

I can't answer most of this, but I can't imagine any possible American government reacting to demands for reparations or land return with anything other then "lol, lmao."

But then again, I'm one of those crazy weirdos who think Americans are far too dependent on the spoils of empire to ever meaningfully embrace anti-imperialism, so :shrug:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Crowsbeak posted:

Also lol now Melanchon is deniable because he incorporates a bourgeois revolution into his arguments. Kind of like Castro and Ortega. Must be why he’s successful.

you seem to lack basic literacy skills.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

tristeham posted:

you seem to lack basic literacy skills.
the worms tunnelled through that part of his brain as well

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
patsoc’s are the pick me’s of marxists where they think that begging for yakubian demon approval is the path to salvation

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
https://twitter.com/mechaorvo/status/1562478377226776576?s=21&t=Lx0srYAIwTBE_M_GFqli3g

this is what they all turn into, stupid alt-righters that can’t stop saying based when they’re the furthest thing from it

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
this is how we're going to appeal to the average american

i'm a ron paul maoist who supports the taliban

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

skipmyseashells posted:

https://twitter.com/mechaorvo/status/1562478377226776576?s=21&t=Lx0srYAIwTBE_M_GFqli3g

this is what they all turn into, stupid alt-righters that can’t stop saying based when they’re the furthest thing from it

The nice thing about all this is that you don't have to give a single poo poo since it's all internet bullshit.

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The nice thing about all this is that you don't have to give a single poo poo since it's all internet bullshit.

:hai:

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skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The nice thing about all this is that you don't have to give a single poo poo since it's all internet bullshit.

it’s still a month away from nba preseason :(

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