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Torpor posted:desantis was in bed with the spooks? looking forward to President desantis DeSantis is making Florida into Ukraine https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1534518355813597191?s=20&t=cdN99BtYyFgp3no_rINtHg https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1545075167537381379?s=20&t=cdN99BtYyFgp3no_rINtHg Speaking of Tesla https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1537140510267166724?s=20&t=cdN99BtYyFgp3no_rINtHg Atrocious Joe has issued a correction as of 20:41 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1545075167537381379?s=20&t=cdN99BtYyFgp3no_rINtHg proportionately, I suppose this is fair given that every other day of the year is victims of capitalism day
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January 6 Survivor posted:yeah no doubt the "book depository" company was critical of Kennedy lmao lmao
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Tempora Mutantur posted:proportionately, I suppose this is fair given that every other day of the year is victims of capitalism day Still waiting for victims of 6 hour probations day
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finished the latest death is just around the corner an hour ago and have been cackling ever since about CIA/nazi war criminal involvement in every facet of my life, so if anyone here isn’t a subscriber you should really rectify that.
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mods please change my name to iggy farben tia and g*d bless
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Going back to Franklin for a second... I read the girl's deposition, I understand she gave like, hours and hours of testimony when she was like 19 or so, about times when she was 14-17, is there corroboration for all of her movements and activities for that time aside from the other witness who hasn't recanted? Like does the banned movie go into the hard evidence or corroboration or was it all suppressed and destroyed? I trust her and all, I'm just curious because it seems like that'd be easy enough to dredge up, she was flown around, driven around, and given various gifts and whatnot. It seems insane to write off her story as a "hoax" by a disgruntled employee, the scope and size of that "hoax" is just nonsense
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Cabbages and Kings posted:yea it doesn't make sense to me. From the replies in the original thread: Can't shake the star symbols being on every property though, as if to signal something about the occupants. Marking victims, perhaps?
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mawarannahr posted:lol talk about aberration Elsewhere in that thread she's building a spreadsheet of which seller/source is distributing which editing variation, in effect also connecting the respondents' social media identities with their real life purchase details. Seems unwise
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MLSM posted:You’d think they would have whacked Whitney Webb by now, too She'd make an excellent recruit. Has seemingly more knowledge than any one person ought to be able to find. Also was instrumental in getting the conspiracy crowd to fall in line behind the 2020 right wing narrative on COVID being empty hype with zero real-world consequences to concern oneself with.
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MLSM posted:You’d think they would have whacked Whitney Webb by now, too least problematic fave
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So wait, are Liberals at a stage where their position on the CIA smuggling coke is “yes they did it, but they didn’t know what the coke would do in America”?
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Frosted Flake posted:So wait, are Liberals at a stage where their position on the CIA smuggling coke is “yes they did it, but they didn’t know what the coke would do in America”? from that highlighted quote it seems like the position is still "CIA smuggling drugs? Did they hire bigfoot to do it too, Mr. Jones?" e: that's what I took away from the parenthesized "and there's no evidence by the way" bit anyway
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Frosted Flake posted:So wait, are Liberals at a stage where their position on the CIA smuggling coke is “yes they did it, but they didn’t know what the coke would do in America”? Nope, they're at "they didn't do it but if they did it then it was someone going rogue", which is basically the "defending cops" playbook but with drug trafficking instead of extrajudicial executions
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I think the argument is "well sure they ran coke but they just wanted the money"
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Azathoth posted:Nope, they're at "they didn't do it but if they did it then it was someone going rogue", which is basically the "defending cops" playbook but with drug trafficking instead of extrajudicial executions Someone can conceivably shoot someone independently on their own initiative but a massive logistical operation that flowed two ways (and actually more since the arms were sourced from all over), liaising with the Contras, AUC and god knows who else, procuring aircraft, filing flight plans (or avoiding interception), at a certain point you have to realize that even a real go-getter couldn’t do all this without support, or failing that, people noticing. I guess what trips me up is that I know what’s motivating their thinking around this, but there are right wing Paramilitaries in Latin America today that will corroborate at least the half of the operation that took place there. You can pop smoke and obfuscate whatever happened once the planes loaded with coke left for America, and that part we know much less about, I mean you can argue about the intentions, if racial bias was a factor, but the coke went somewhere and it was on a bigger scale than two guys in the office decided to pull off a score behind Uncle Sam’s back. idk, the going rogue thing seems at odds with the liberal view of institutions as these big powerful things that exercise authority and people believe in. Think of all the institutions that would have to fail outright - from Civil Air Patrol, to the DEA, to whatever air defence command tracks flights over the Caribbean - for this to happen behind everyone’s back.
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Frosted Flake posted:idk, the going rogue thing seems at odds with the liberal view of institutions as these big powerful things that exercise authority and people believe in. Think of all the institutions that would have to fail outright - from Civil Air Patrol, to the DEA, to whatever air defence command tracks flights over the Caribbean - for this to happen behind everyone’s back. well, that's exactly why it couldn't have happened.
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Zodium posted:well, that's exactly why it couldn't have happened. lol oh poo poo you’re right
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Cops almost never do anything wrong but if they do something wrong it's not the fault of the system it's because they're a rogue actor and any punishment they receive is proof the system works. If they shot someone and other cops investigated it and found they did nothing wrong, they then definitely didn't do anything wrong because cops and the institutions are good and wouldn't cover for a bad cop. That so few cops are convicted of any wrongdoing is evidence therefore that the system is mostly good and most cops are good and needs no major overhauls except for some additional money for oversight.
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Uh, no one isolate that and quote it out of context.
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Azathoth posted:Mods almost never do anything wrong but
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Atrocious Joe posted:DeSantis is making Florida into Ukraine my monitor is on
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just reading the Jakarta method when it hit on something that’s always bugged me about the immigration discourse in the United States. the discourse is shoe horned into two positions that seem to make sense but also, in some sense, deliberately mislead. in short, and very briefly, the arguments always focus on whether immigrants are good are bad. when the truth is that the United States has brutalized Latin America for over a century and: ’’ posted:In Guatemala, the civil war ended in 1996. The surviving people of Ilom were finally able to return home and reconstruct their tiny village. [….] The Mayans still wear the red skirts that Antonio’s mother was wearing the day she realized her neighbor had been burned alive. Villagers still farm corn, wake up early, and take horses through the trees to work the fields, and come home at sunset to sit and tell stories in Ixil and laugh. But to participate in the modern economy that has grown up around them, they also need money. For that, they send their teenage sons and daughters to the United States. Josefa’s son went in 2016, when he was seventeen. Everyone knows that if you go before you turn eighteen, it’s easier to get in the country and stay there. He has a construction job in Florida, where he learned pretty good Spanish. Having paid back his coyote, the man who smuggled him across the border, he can send money home. Ilom keeps sending more of its youth up north. This is not about love for the United States, or the American dream. They don’t want to go. They know who was responsible for the violence they’d suffered. “A lot of us, just really a lot of us, have gone to the United States,” said Antonio Caba Caba as he was showing me around Ilom. We walked by the plaza where he watched almost every man he knew get murdered for being some kind of a suspected communist. He said, “I guess it’s funny—well, maybe ‘funny’ isn’t the word—but we know who is responsible for the violence that destroyed this place. We know it was the United States that was behind it. But we keep sending our kids there, because they have nowhere else to go.” it seems like the discourse is set up explicitly to block mentioning this part of reality. the mainstream democrat and republican arguments over the undocumented/refugee/immigrant topic both dance around the truth to support -each in their own unique way- a status quo of grinding up laborers for maximum profit. the reality seems to be that the so-called divisive issue of immigrants in the United States in the current historical moment has been engineered to create an ample supply of vulnerable, helpless workers. I mean the wall, the lack of a wall, the concentration camps, drug wars, regular wars, gangs, jobs, money, uneven I-9 verification, lack of prosecution of employers, DACA, and if you want to be ultra-cynical even sanctuary cities. the whole thing seems like it’s set up as some kind of vast Rube Goldberg machine created to simultaneously attract and brutalize vulnerable, helpless people for profit. it’s like somehow that oft quoted stanza about “give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” is actually a threat, you know, or else. but maybe I’m being too reductive or too cracked or pinged, maybe this book is just making me way too cynical, I can only read it in bits and pieces. 
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I've made it through a lot of poo poo from the Epstein thread but lord help me I couldn't make it through Ilan Pappe's "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"
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Spergin Morlock posted:no evidence lol. tell that to gary webb Confused this for a second with Gary McKinnon who whether you believe him or not is doing hard time for seeing what he claims he saw
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Azathoth posted:Uh, no one isolate that and quote it out of context. 
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Shear Modulus posted:what happened to the guy they were trying to pin the antrax attacks on? he performed the epstein special and committed suicide in prison right? Tylenol overdose quote:A summary of the police report of his death, released in 2009, lists the cause of death as liver and kidney failure, citing his purchase of two bottles of Tylenol PM (containing diphenhydramine), contradicting earlier reports of Tylenol with codeine.[54] His family declined to put him on the liver transplant list, and he was removed from life support.[54] Corky Romanovsky has issued a correction as of 23:38 on Aug 28, 2022 |
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Tylenol overdose Kinda suggests he didn't have access to anthrax.
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