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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Snowy posted:

I thought it had been established that Ali sunglasses had decent uv protection, am I misremembering?

That's literally literally like saying "I thought it was the consensus that German cars are red".

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BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
I've been thinking about this for a while and the question i've come to think is: how can one test safe eyewear?

Let's say for example protection against like a tattoo removal laser setup

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



3D Megadoodoo posted:

That's literally literally like saying "I thought it was the consensus that German cars are red".

Yeah that makes sense but the way I remember it Ali glasses have been tested a lot and have been good about UV. Many opticians will test them for free, it’s worth checking out and would help make the bargain shopping less stressful

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!

Snowy posted:

Yeah that makes sense but the way I remember it Ali glasses have been tested a lot and have been good about UV. Many opticians will test them for free, it’s worth checking out and would help make the bargain shopping less stressful

guess I gotta take my discount lenses to the laser lab at the university then

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Polycarbonate as a material is pretty highly absorptive of ultraviolet light. You’d have to go out of your way to make sunglasses that didn’t block most of it.

I wouldn’t trust Aliexpress sunglasses, but that’s because of their mechanical properties, not the optical ones.

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!
so where am I buying that poo poo because gently caress me if i'm trusting my god drat eyes to amazon and that "I love you alive girl" rear end in a top hat

Crazy Achmed
Mar 13, 2001

By popular demand posted:

How stable is it?

Maybe a bit light, but fine if you want to use it to hold your car keys or something similarly sized. It is hollow though, so you could drill a hole into it and put in some sand or lead shot to make it nice and bottom-heavy.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Snowy posted:

Ali glasses

Aliexpress isn't a shop or a brand or even a manufacturer. Every testimony about "Ali this" or "Ali that" is anecdotal. Maybe the 300€ box of baclava from Aliexpress won't kill you. Maybe it will.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
The common argument in favour of cheap sunglasses is that the material that lenses are made from is cheaper to source and cheaper to make uv blocking than uv transmissible. I'd still want to test that but all the knockoff Roy bans and bokleys I've gotten have been polycarbonate.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
My rules for buying on (generic) Ali is to only buy things that I can test the quality on and that are cheap enough that I can throw them away if they fail.
So, if you have access to a way to test UV protection then Ali sunglasses are fine. Otherwise they aren't.

Now generic Ali isn't actually worse then generic Amazon marketplace, with the main upside of Amazon being the better returns policy.
Buying on a known brand store on Ali is just as fine as buying one of the Brand's products on Amzon or a local outlet.

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008

StarkingBarfish posted:

The common argument in favour of cheap sunglasses is that the material that lenses are made from[...]
I mean... it's AE. Who knows what they're made from?

I note no-one is disputing that the utensils are made from lead and poison even though the listing advertises they're made from "wheat straw"

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



It’s a lot easier to test UV protection than lead content fwiw

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Snowy posted:

It’s a lot easier to test UV protection than lead content fwiw

Just get a lead test kit from Aliexpress.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



3D Megadoodoo posted:

Just get a lead test kit from Aliexpress.

Now that’s something I wouldn’t trust :v:

Ethics_Gradient
May 5, 2015

Common misconception that; that fun is relaxing. If it is, you're not doing it right.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Just get a lead test kit from Aliexpress.

"The lead is coming from inside the kit!"

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
I'm currently contemplating a fairly expensive AliExpress purchase..... An IP video/intercom.

It's basically the same thing and the same brand I'd get if I got a local installer to do it except a fraction of the cost of buying even just the hardware locally (and I can pull my own cat6 cables out to the gate thankyou very much)

Does anyone have any idea the chance I get counterfeit Hikvision gear sent to me?

Here's the listing I have shortlisted that has decent customer photos/etc
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mK0cgz6

And before anyone mentions the rules - I'm gonna use my own PoE gear for power and they can live on their own subnet.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


LosMein posted:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003778174434.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.50b41802Xkz77f
An infrared thermometer gun. I still have to test it out, but I'm surprised they were able to ship this here.

Thanks thread, for helping me spend my hard-earned money in return for some useful stuff.

Thanks, I keep meaning to get a temp gun.

HELLOMYNAMEIS___
Dec 30, 2007

Based on a post in this thread, I went and got one of those falling sand chaos theory lamps. Very happy with it - here are some pictures:





codo27
Apr 21, 2008

norp posted:

Does anyone have any idea the chance I get counterfeit Hikvision gear sent to me?

Cant imagine counterfeit hik stuff is any worse than the real poo poo. I'd never buy it for myself, mostly due to their software.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy

mobby_6kl posted:

I've seen these chips from spiral-cut potatoes at various festivals and what not but never bought one because it usually costs a



I guess you could also just say it's everyone's favorite? Anyway, this pretty serious-looking one is like $12 here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/327...id=ByCyTPCu4A8D


My Mom got this exact same one. She uses it with apples for apple pie. Never even thought about using it for potatos....

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Needs a motor attached to it.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

goatface posted:

Needs a motor attached to it.

same goes for that falling sand lamp, i want one that can flip itself on a programmable interval

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

mobby_6kl posted:

I guess you could also just say it's everyone's favorite? Anyway, this pretty serious-looking one is like $12 here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/327...id=ByCyTPCu4A8D

Tag yourself...



I'm the Activities Crank.

Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

Snowy posted:

I thought it had been established that Ali sunglasses had decent uv protection, am I misremembering?

No, that's correct. Of course you can't be sure of every single kind there is but generally they are alright.

Edit: Also the pricier replica ones can be of basically the same quality as the original, I've posted about the Ray Bans I got before and those are extremely solid. Polarized lenses, etc.

Cached Money fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Aug 29, 2022

LosMein
Feb 15, 2006

Strong Convections posted:

:saddumb: You broke key rules of buying from AE - nothing safety related and nothing that goes into the body. The utensils are probably made of lead and poison. The sunglasses probably have bugger-all UV protection so the shade opens up your pupils for additional UV damage.

Haha yeah the utensils are probably fine. But if I buy it in a shop here it'll probably be the same thing.


Speaking of plushies, my friend got me this as a get well after my big surgery a couple years ago. I love durian, but she gave it to me only two months before Covid kicked off. So there were two months where people recognized it as durian rather than a virus.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.22.3fd36ebcthQA2g&id=677198477056&ns=1&abbucket=4#detail

The Hambulance
Apr 19, 2011

:20bux:

ASK ME ABOUT MY AWESOME STARTUP IDEA


Pillbug

norp posted:


Does anyone have any idea the chance I get counterfeit Hikvision gear sent to me?


Hikvision is on the US no-import list because of their ties to the Chinese military, so if you live in the US there's a good chance you won't ever get anything even Hikvision branded.

https://www.securityinfowatch.com/video-surveillance/article/21243600/congress-passes-bill-banning-new-fcc-equipment-authorizations-for-hikvision-dahua-and-others

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
I'm in Australia and it seems to be pretty ubiquitous here

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

VictualSquid posted:

Buying on a known brand store on Ali is just as fine as buying one of the Brand's products on Amzon or a local outlet.

Would that be Genuine Brand, Genuine_Brand, Genuine Brand Store or Genuine Brand Mall?

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Kerbtree posted:

Would that be Genuine Brand, Genuine_Brand, Genuine Brand Store or Genuine Brand Mall?

If you don't know then it isn't a known brand store, you know.
More seriously, it is the one that they link on their normal website.

Tad Naff
Jul 8, 2004

I told you you'd be sorry buying an emoticon, but no, you were hung over. Well look at you now. It's not catching on at all!
:backtowork:
They're in love with the word "adsorption". Half of everything in my recommends seem to feature "adsorption" of some sort.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Cable Guy posted:

Tag yourself...



I'm the Activities Crank.

Definitely bottom sucker.


goatface posted:

Needs a motor attached to it.
Yeah I think some of the ones I've seen at various stands do have a motor. I'm sure hooking up my Makita knockoff drill would be no problem though.

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
Okay fine here's your drat sunglasses post


If your sunglasses are plastic, there are essentially only two options for materials: acrylic or polycarbonate. Both of those will just naturally block UV somewhat, but here are your tests.


My spectrometer can't go deep UV, but it can still show trends. Transmissive materials tend to have smooth, intuitive spectral characteristics, so if line looks like it's trending down, it probably is.


Here are the contestants.





Here is daylight today. It's a little cloudy, but I've noticed/compared with sunny days, and that doesn't really change the relative intensity of UV much, just the overall intensity.



UV is on the left, and ideally we'd look a liiiittle bit further, but it's still representative.

Here are the results.



In all cases but the last one, they very obviously work well. That last one is the rose graduated one on the left in the image, and that is mostly a case of it just not having much tint at all. It doesn't do much and I don't use it.

All of them are essentially invisible to IR, on the right. Those spiky bits can be used as a reference to compare how much attenuation there actually is.

For polycarbonate, you can see it becomes fully opaque right outside the range of what I can measured.

ante fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Aug 29, 2022

BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.

ante posted:

Okay fine here's your drat sunglasses post


If your sunglasses are plastic, there are essentially only two options for materials: acrylic or polycarbonate. Both of those will just naturally block UV somewhat, but here are your tests.


My spectrometer can't go deep UV, but it can still show trends. Transmissive materials tend to have smooth, intuitive spectral characteristics, so if line looks like it's trending down, it probably is.


Here are the contestants.





Here is daylight today. It's a little cloudy, but I've noticed/compared with sunny days, and that doesn't really change the relative intensity of UV much, just the overall intensity.



UV is on the left, and ideally we'd look a liiiittle bit further, but it's still representative.

Here are the results.



In all cases but the last one, they very obviously work well. That last one is the rose graduated one on the left in the image, and that is mostly a case of it just not having much tint at all. It doesn't do much and I don't use it.

All of them are essentially invisible to IR, on the right. Those spiky bits can be used as a reference to compare how much attenuation there actually is.

For polycarbonate, you can see it becomes fully opaque right outside the range of what I can measured.



Very good post, lmaoing at something awful forums probably now being the place with the most safety data on anything on aliexpress

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

MSaDS

Material Something Awful Data Sheets

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!
Has anyone ordered one of those build a book nook puzzle things made from printed laser cut mdf?

I get loads of ads, but the sites are variable and untrustworthy, do I hope Ali will have something more reliable.

Example: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004670207463.html

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Aug 29, 2022

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



ante posted:

Okay fine here's your drat sunglasses post


If your sunglasses are plastic, there are essentially only two options for materials: acrylic or polycarbonate. Both of those will just naturally block UV somewhat, but here are your tests.


My spectrometer can't go deep UV, but it can still show trends. Transmissive materials tend to have smooth, intuitive spectral characteristics, so if line looks like it's trending down, it probably is.


Here are the contestants.





Here is daylight today. It's a little cloudy, but I've noticed/compared with sunny days, and that doesn't really change the relative intensity of UV much, just the overall intensity.



UV is on the left, and ideally we'd look a liiiittle bit further, but it's still representative.

Here are the results.



In all cases but the last one, they very obviously work well. That last one is the rose graduated one on the left in the image, and that is mostly a case of it just not having much tint at all. It doesn't do much and I don't use it.

All of them are essentially invisible to IR, on the right. Those spiky bits can be used as a reference to compare how much attenuation there actually is.

For polycarbonate, you can see it becomes fully opaque right outside the range of what I can measured.



I love goons.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

goatface posted:

Needs a motor attached to it.

buddy your chickweed avatar makes my teeth itch every time i see it.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

ante posted:

My spectrometer can't go deep UV, but it can still show trends. Transmissive materials tend to have smooth, intuitive spectral characteristics, so if line looks like it's trending down, it probably is.

assuming you're not scanning any rare earths, anyway

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Neodymium glass, cheap and dirty way to block light from low pressure sodium lamps of the sort commonly used for street lamps prior to the LED revolution.



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DRINK ME
Jul 31, 2006
i cant fix avs like this because idk the bbcode - HTML IS BS MAN

HELLOMYNAMEIS___ posted:

Based on a post in this thread, I went and got one of those falling sand chaos theory lamps. Very happy with it - here are some pictures:







That’s beautiful with the light and I’m kind of tempted but if I get a second falling sand thing do I become the falling sand thing guy? Like how people get into snowglobes and fill their houses with them. I don’t want to be a thing guy.

How is the base on it? Sturdy?
The non-lamp one came with a lovely plastic base that I either need to sand flat or replace with something sturdier.

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