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Antonymous posted:Asian Cinema - lol
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 17:53 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 19:25 |
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I have read some Taiwanese commentators have predicted that the way China will squeeze in the semi industry is going to be similar to how China "barged" in other tech/manufacturing industries. Basically China fabs will make the low end so cheap and “cabbage priced” it will make other countries fabs unprofitable in the low end. And in term it will make other fabs exit the low end/high volume market; the other fabs including even TSMC still have alot of old factories that make 120nm chips. They made the investment a long time ago and the investors expected these old fabs will keep turning a profit on the balance sheet. But if the Chinese fabs make the low end market unprofitable for the non-Chinese fabs, it will essentially slam the brake on the R&D dollar for all high end development. One example i can make an analogy to is the camera market. The 4 major Japanese camera makers have formed their little monopoly club for decades, however they heavily depended on the point-and-shoot cameras, bridge cameras, and entry level (prosumer) APSC cameras to keep their high end pro products active. Over the last 20 years, these low and mid end market has been completely annihilated by smartphones and action cameras, 360 cameras and drones. And the newcomers are basically all Chinese and US companies offering different solutions from hardware and software ends to solve the same photo taking problem. The 4 major brands switched to a much slower schedule on new professional camera release. I have said a long time ago the Japanese need to consolidate down to maybe 2 brands to survive.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:08 |
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RIP RedPillCoach. Remembering our fallen heroes of the war.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:31 |
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this allusion meant posted:smic is making what appears to be 7nm-class chips based on multi-patterning techniques at feature sizes close to what tsmc had before finally using euv. however they have no obvious ways of acquiring euv lithography or any future advances beyond that at the time. domestic technology at those steps in the chain are further behind than the fab and design steps. the financial situation is probably really corrupt and hosed up because of being a big strategic deal that the state wants to throw money at but i don’t know the details. however that is not likely to be the main issue going forward Is this a syq? Are there any actual obstacles here to their chip development other than the same "China can't do things that are hard" I see in every western news article?
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:33 |
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unwantedplatypus posted:Is this a syq?
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:37 |
Antonymous posted:lol Lgbt2qia2+s
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:51 |
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What legal mechanisms are the US using to make it a crime or whatever for ASML to sell lithography stuff to the Chinese? Seems kinda insane.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:52 |
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Most of the Chinese political media I read is furiously making GBS threads on Gorbachev right now lmao. Lots of comments amounting to "He betrayed communism and drove his country into the ground, but at least China learned from his mistakes" deng stays winning
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:54 |
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unwantedplatypus posted:Is this a syq? the lithography issue is at least believed to be a legitimately huge technical obstacle. i think China can do it, it will probably just take some years. it could also be a smaller technical issue than it's believed to be and they just go full suez.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:54 |
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Antonymous posted:Asian Cinema -
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:57 |
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Dumb question that i don't know where else to ask: Is there a C-Spam thread where I can post a few relevant things about Serbia? One that preferably isn't one of those hosed up GBS style minstrel show threads about the balkans or ex-yu that show up like once every other month.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:06 |
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Europe is part of Asia
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:08 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:Europe is part of Asia west asia
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:08 |
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my dad posted:Dumb question that i don't know where else to ask: Is there a C-Spam thread where I can post a few relevant things about Serbia? One that preferably isn't one of those hosed up GBS style minstrel show threads about the balkans or ex-yu that show up like once every other month. this is probably the best we've got
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:08 |
my dad posted:Dumb question that i don't know where else to ask: Is there a C-Spam thread where I can post a few relevant things about Serbia? One that preferably isn't one of those hosed up GBS style minstrel show threads about the balkans or ex-yu that show up like once every other month. Start one my dude. Serbia owns by the way I drive through it pretty often, love it. Insanely good meat pies. And seriously good vibes, at least in the places I stop.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:11 |
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my dad posted:Dumb question that i don't know where else to ask: Is there a C-Spam thread where I can post a few relevant things about Serbia? One that preferably isn't one of those hosed up GBS style minstrel show threads about the balkans or ex-yu that show up like once every other month. Apologies OP, it’s fun to recreate one everytime I see someone from the balkans say some hosed up poo poo on Twitter.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:12 |
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Serbia sucks who cares about it
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:14 |
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is the LGBTQIA2S+ identity that was censored just "dude who fucks his lady cousin"? sounds a lot more like incest than LGBT stuff
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:15 |
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indigi posted:Serbia sucks who cares about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTvlD5fFjJI
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:17 |
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that's just cause Xi is a really big Boban fan
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:20 |
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badonkadonk
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:25 |
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Zodium posted:the lithography issue is at least believed to be a legitimately huge technical obstacle. i think China can do it, it will probably just take some years. it could also be a smaller technical issue than it's believed to be and they just go full suez. Yeah the problem with lithography is that the initial capital investment is absolutely Titanic and you need a very large technical knowledge base to proceed down the size scale. Something that may gently caress the US up though is that sales to China are a pretty significant part of the market for sales of older machines, and if the option is "lose 20% of your sales base with no replacement" and "defy the US", well, E: and even then China could surprise everyone and come up with a new way to use older chips to get parity, like the AMD chiplet stacking stuff
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:28 |
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Marzzle posted:is the LGBTQIA2S+ identity that was censored just "dude who fucks his lady cousin"? sounds a lot more like incest than LGBT stuff it’s a little circuitous but basically the reason the incest joke is censored is general disapproval of sex jokes in television and not necessarily anything specific to incest (one can imagine a different set of censorship rules that would allow the other stuff but censor the incest, but that’s not what exists). however if you just say that the censors are about 20% more prudish than ours and cover a slightly more modern range of formats, since we also limit adult content in broadcasting, that doesn’t sound very interesting. so basically to attack china you say that all the sex censorship is actually part of a heteronormative patriarchal system and therefore bad, which sounds plausible enough at the top level low detail analysis, and is true to an extent, but probably this is not the best show to demonstrate the point. however when you then copy and paste this analysis onto every instance of the sex joke censorship many individual cases seem very ill-fitting and indeed quite offensive to the people whose oppression is supposedly being criticized
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:31 |
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Also for reference when I talk about the insane capital cost of an upper tier fab is north of 20 billion (with a b) dollars. For one fab. Also it won't actually be up and running for like 3 years while everything warms up and even then the costs of running the plant are super high. The fact that non-state entities run them at all is frankly kind of astounding given the amount of long term planning they force you to do
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:35 |
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Alright, I'll probably repost this in the Europe(an Union) thread too. In the recent years, Serbia's coal industry got hosed up pretty badly by various hazards and disasters, and our power production suffered pretty badly for it. As an added bonus, coal production this year is on the lower end of what could have been expected in the conditions. With the ongoing trade clusterfuck, we've started importing a lot of power, and it's likely that it's going to significantly escalate when winter hits. We're already experiencing major food price hikes, and the first signs of shortages of basic produce. (it's still not particularly bad, but you're starting to see things like all the stores in an area running out of milk mid-day, etc). The national power company is offering (additional) reduction of power bills for people who drop their power consumption by a certain percentage over the next few months, relative to their prior power spending, but the implication inbetween the lines is that the price is going to go up in general for everyone. One of the options being brought up by our government (in a way that a lot of poo poo 'options' were brought up in before being implemented) is a loan from the IMF, in exchange for them getting to decide how our national power infrastructure is run. For ideas on what happens when IMF makes deals like that with countries in the Balkans, you are free to look at what happened in Greece. The recent media storm about Kosovo fits this in nicely with the cycle of europe/nato making GBS threads on us out of nowhere, followed by our government puffing up as the world's greatest patriots who'd never do what the eu tells them, followed by some sort of loud deescalation broadcasted everywhere, and a quiet surrender of yet another part of our economy that never gets mentioned outside of the country and is heavily downplayed within it. Especially when I consider how laser-focused the EU was on loving with our energy sector ever since the war in Ukraine begun. poo poo's gonna get ugly this winter. Very ugly. And if the IMF deal goes through, it's gonna stay ugly.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:37 |
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my dad posted:Alright, I'll probably repost this in the Europe(an Union) thread too. Would you say that Serbia is being debt trapped by the IMF with this sort of loan?
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 20:03 |
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The satelite photos of Pakistan are crazy, it's like it suddenly grew a gargantuan lake easily visible from space.GlassEye-Boy posted:Would you say that Serbia is being debt trapped by the IMF with this sort of loan? Less of a trap, more of a pen.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 20:46 |
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this article has a before/after slider https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/31/asia/pakistan-floods-forms-inland-lake-satellite-intl-hnk/index.html
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 20:50 |
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Land of the five rivers? more like land of the lake.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 21:01 |
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oh this has some info on the state of mainland litho https://twitter.com/alubacap/status/1565423104582631425?s=21&t=Ir3DrSK4RyNYSdv6myNMlA i am talking about the article in the first tweet. the second one just has a neat chart and it’s efficient to link it to embed both
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 21:24 |
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my dad posted:Alright, I'll probably repost this in the Europe(an Union) thread too. I think the EU will toss sanctions in the trash after the first round of gas riots in the winter because they don't actually care about what happens in east europe like the USA does and are just waiting for an excuse to go "well we tried sorry america " (this excepts poland, who no one really needs to try to impress anyway)
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 21:35 |
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And then comes the NY Times article about Western Europe's Nazi Problem
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 21:48 |
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Marzzle posted:I think the EU will toss sanctions in the trash after the first round of gas riots in the winter because they don't actually care about what happens in east europe like the USA does and are just waiting for an excuse to go "well we tried sorry america " Eh, I feel the whole press and mid-level official segment kinda jumped after the Americans into the Russia-gate hole. No brain unbroken.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 21:50 |
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It will be pretty hilarious if Germany restart Nordstream 2 by the next PM, who ever it will be.
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 21:57 |
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genericnick posted:Eh, I feel the whole press and mid-level official segment kinda jumped after the Americans into the Russia-gate hole. No brain unbroken. https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1565067553671626760?s=20&t=l3FsZ7uYak5d3jxuN1UHsw Yeah
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 22:09 |
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What's the Cspam take on Jinnah? Is Pakistan a mistake?
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 22:11 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/meghamohan/status/1565114789935939593
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# ? Sep 1, 2022 23:59 |
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Mantis42 posted:What's the Cspam take on Jinnah? Is Pakistan a mistake? Gujaratis shouldn't get into the legal bidness.
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# ? Sep 2, 2022 00:02 |
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what is lithography. lith means stone right. they making GPUs out of stone now or are they talking about sand. sand ain't rocks bitch
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# ? Sep 2, 2022 00:08 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 19:25 |
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indigi posted:what is lithography. lith means stone right. they making GPUs out of stone now or are they talking about sand. sand ain't rocks bitch At the scale that they're making these chips, you have to ETCH the transistors onto the silicon, hence lithography, drawing on rocks
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