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500excf type r posted:Additionally I have 16 chickens which means at like beak production I'd be getting close to a dozen eggs a day and a half gallon of goat milk. 
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Sep 6, 2022 10:21
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"It was all just a big misunderstanding" put that on the biosphere's tombstone
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Sep 6, 2022 10:28
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wait is the rancid milk lake real? I genuinely can’t tell. why are people dumping milk? that video didn’t once explain why there was a milk lake it just talked about the torment of its existence like it was an onion bit.
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Sep 6, 2022 11:00
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also I can’t tell the difference between any of their other videos and joke headlines is this what the news is now?
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Sep 6, 2022 11:02
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kater posted:wait is the rancid milk lake real? I genuinely can’t tell. why are people dumping milk? that video didn’t once explain why there was a milk lake it just talked about the torment of its existence like it was an onion bit. could be a lot of reasons, contaminated batch, didn't sell for enough money, don't want poor people to have free milk, but it all just comes down to cheapest option available when there are no consequences either way
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Sep 6, 2022 11:24
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Zodium posted:they're not orthogonal. all of this has the same primary reason: capitalism. Communism can't devulcanize rubber either, some things just can't be allowed to exist
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Sep 6, 2022 12:41
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kater posted:also I can’t tell the difference between any of their other videos and joke headlines is this what the news is now? img-astronaut
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Sep 6, 2022 13:31
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Happy Tuesday! https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1566848921527357441 https://twitter.com/VICE/status/1565414264596496384 https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1566351680127614977
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Sep 6, 2022 14:39
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Sep 6, 2022 14:41
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Zodium posted:they're not orthogonal. all of this has the same primary reason: capitalism. Capitalism is bad, but humans are lovely, greedy fucks even without it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/the-soviet-union-once-hunted-endangered-whales-to-the-brink-of-extinction/
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Sep 6, 2022 14:44
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They didn't die cause of climate change. "Experts have told VICE World News that not only were they planted at the wrong time of year, but that they were planted on species-rich grassland that was already carbon negative, which has now been mostly destroyed by tree planting. Environmentalists also point out that the trees were planted so shallowly into the ground that most were unlikely to ever take root." Dipshit morons pretend to fix problem, make problem worse on purpose. Tale as old as time.
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Sep 6, 2022 14:47
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At least in theory (global) communism could be a diligent steward of common resources, like the seas and soils and atmosphere, but in practice even communists want to improve quality of life (in terms of material wealth which can be represented by per capita energy use) and the environment will always play second fiddle to that.
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Sep 6, 2022 14:51
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Gonna pick up emtme3's hooting and hollering about ecocommunism and epistemological collapse to say something like "Full Communism is indistinguishable from a completely planned biosphere, and does not privilege any one species over the rest"
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Sep 6, 2022 14:57
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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1567124836215914496
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Sep 6, 2022 15:05
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D&D climate thread had a big fight over eating meat but because the carbon impact was small compared to energy generation and everyone's feelings were getting real hurt they decided to ban the discussion of eating meat.
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Sep 6, 2022 15:12
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"in 2021, a study showed the Thwaites Ice Shelf, which helps to stabilize the glacier and hold the ice back from flowing freely into the ocean, could shatter within five years." “From the satellite data, we’re seeing these big fractures spreading across the ice shelf surface, essentially weakening the fabric of the ice; kind of a bit like a windscreen crack,” Peter Davis, an oceanographer with the British Antarctic Survey, told CNN in 2021. “It’s slowly spreading across the ice shelf and eventually it’s going to fracture into lots of different pieces.” Monday’s findings, which suggest the Thwaites is capable of receding at a much faster pace than recently thought" Holy poo poo this thing is going to pop in a couple years
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Sep 6, 2022 15:12
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I quite like the public meat adverts in Amsterdam though.
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Sep 6, 2022 15:13
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unwantedplatypus posted:"in 2021, a study showed the Thwaites Ice Shelf, which helps to stabilize the glacier and hold the ice back from flowing freely into the ocean, could shatter within five years." so, next week, then?
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Sep 6, 2022 15:21
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1566797139023462405 Cotton or paper bags you can compost, so those seem like the best option
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Sep 6, 2022 15:30
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Microplastics posted:At least in theory (global) communism could be a diligent steward of common resources, like the seas and soils and atmosphere, but in practice even communists want to improve quality of life (in terms of material wealth which can be represented by per capita energy use) and the environment will always play second fiddle to that. gradenko_2000 posted:taken from "Song of the Forest: Russian Forestry and Stalinist Environmentalism, 1905-1953", by Stephen Brain
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Sep 6, 2022 15:39
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forester stalin 
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Sep 6, 2022 15:44
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get the gently caress out, smokey, here comes stalin the bear
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Sep 6, 2022 15:45
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Agreed, full communism is the way forward, and we shouldn't focus on minor things like the Aral Sea or Mayak or Soviet whaling history. For example: through dedicated effort, the Belorussian and Ukrainain governments were able to create *one of the largest wildlife refuges in mainland Euorpe between their borders, measured at 4,862 square kilometers. Slow News Day posted:Capitalism is bad, but humans are lovely, greedy fucks even without it.
Hubbert has issued a correction as of 16:42 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Sep 6, 2022 16:18
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I don't remember where I just got this link: https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...obox=1662282311 This is the funniest thing ever. quote:They sat around the table and introduced themselves: five super-wealthy guys – yes, all men – from the upper echelon of the tech investing and hedge-fund world. At least two of them were billionaires. Fozzy The Bear has issued a correction as of 16:41 on Sep 6, 2022 |
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Sep 6, 2022 16:38
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CODChimera posted:shopping bags dont matter 
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Sep 6, 2022 16:48
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without any government to stop them, billionaires will literally just enslave people to work in their bunkers "but how do I prevent my slaves from killing me?" embed a compliance chip in their brainstem that detects bad thoughts and "corrects" them accordingly. or, give them a drug that suppresses the human desire to be free... maybe consider nerve stapling? one thing's for sure, you're going to need a punishment sphere in your bunker
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Sep 6, 2022 16:57
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kater posted:wait is the rancid milk lake real? I genuinely can’t tell. why are people dumping milk? that video didn’t once explain why there was a milk lake it just talked about the torment of its existence like it was an onion bit. Farmers are driven to produce as much as possible at all possible times in order to chase ever smaller profits. Dairy farms produce as much milk as possible as consistently as possible, but production far outstrips demand and has for a long time. The dairy lobbies and processed food manufacturing do their best to stuff dairy into as many products as possible (especially cheese - we eat so much more cheese than we used to even 20 years ago thanks to dairy lobbies), but even so, demand for liquid milk has been shrinking pretty dramatically in the past decade in particular. Also, demand for milk isn't static, and if something even briefly interrupts the expected demand (chain restaurants having reduced hours due to staffing issues/covid/whatever), or if there's a problem with shipping (such as any of the logistics chain having reduced capacity due to covid or diesel prices etc), you can't exactly tell the cows to stop producing milk for a few days. They're going to continue producing the inhumane* quantities of milk they've been selectively bred to produce, and if it can't be processed or used or sold quickly, it gets dumped  Dairy farms were producing more milk than we knew what to do with even in pre-covid, "normal" times. The last couple years of disruption to shipping/restaurants/etc have completely thrown any kind of production metrics out the window, and a lot of dairies that might not have been dumping that much excess milk before certainly have been periodically the last couple of years. Large dairies have been trying to figure out how to dispose of excess milk for years though. *You know how battery hen genetics have been hosed to make them lay eggs every day (at a severe cost to their health), or meat hens grow so quickly that they can't really stand or function normally after 6 weeks? It's pretty similar with dairy cows, especially for American dairy cattle which have become a particular nightmarish hell you'd probably feel guilty about creating in a god game, never mind real life. Most dairy herds are artificially inseminated using semen that has been carefully selected over time to produce much bigger, hungrier dairy cows that have bigger udders and produce more (and more and more and more and more) milk. Dairy cow breeding is absolutely bonkers - people demand detailed charts on a dam's udder depth, width and how long her teats are before they'll touch one of her embryos. Like with most livestock genetics, humanity have pushed things well beyond an animal's capacity to live as a functional being. It's pretty horrific as these giant milk she-hulks are becoming so massive that their spines have problems physically supporting their stupidly massive bodies, they develop mobility issues because their hips struggle to support such deep udders, they can't fit in livestock trucks very well, they stop being able to produce milk after a couple years and in general just have a bunch of health problems because they are just too big, too hungry, and are producing enough milk to feed an entire herd of calves every single day...but hey, at least the farmers are mostly crippled with debt and barely getting by 
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Sep 6, 2022 16:58
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I don't remember where I just got this link: I'd been looking for a previous version of this interview for awhile. lmao. Not sure if it's the exact same guys or the same "security expert" they were talking with but it still has my favorite bit right after your quote: quote:I tried to reason with them. I made pro-social arguments for partnership and solidarity as the best approaches to our collective, long-term challenges. The way to get your guards to exhibit loyalty in the future was to treat them like friends right now, I explained. Don’t just invest in ammo and electric fences, invest in people and relationships. They rolled their eyes at what must have sounded to them like hippy philosophy. "We're not here to make friends or lasting bonds, if we could have done that we wouldn't be ultra-weathly parasites. No I think we'll go with the bomb collars"
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Sep 6, 2022 16:59
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Pryor on Fire posted:D&D climate thread had a big fight over eating meat but because the carbon impact was small compared to energy generation and everyone's feelings were getting real hurt they decided to ban the discussion of eating meat. To be clear eating animal products accounts for something like 1/5th of global greenhouse gas emissions
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Sep 6, 2022 17:02
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Yeah they ignored methane completely and decided because carbon is small compared to coal it's ok to ban all discussion of meat. Classic summertime D&D.
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Sep 6, 2022 17:05
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I don't remember where I just got this link: they'll use his soft pampered body as an entrance trophy/deterrent when the ruse is up
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Sep 6, 2022 17:28
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TeenageArchipelago posted:To be clear eating animal products accounts for something like 1/5th of global greenhouse gas emissions Raising massive amounts of ruminant animals on tightly packed feed lots produces greenhouse gas. Which also forces millions of acres of mono-cropping grain crops to ship to those feed lots, destroying the soil in the process. If we raised those animals on the amount of land that could support themselves, and use some type of mob grazing, or rotational grazing, our land and environment would improve. I suspect we would have to lower the amount of meat we consume.
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Sep 6, 2022 17:30
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Crain posted:I'd been looking for a previous version of this interview for awhile. lmao. Not sure if it's the exact same guys or the same "security expert" they were talking with but it still has my favorite bit right after your quote: It's amazing how consistently wealth actively makes individuals dumber. Not even a spare gut neuron popping up and going "hey this idea goes against the most base aspects of social animal nature, monkey brain should panic now", just full speed ahead on maintaining capital's power. Ensmoothening
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Sep 6, 2022 17:34
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I don't remember where I just got this link: that's a rewrite of a post from 2018 https://onezero.medium.com/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1
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Sep 6, 2022 17:36
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Raising massive amounts of ruminant animals on tightly packed feed lots produces greenhouse gas. Which also forces millions of acres of mono-cropping grain crops to ship to those feed lots, destroying the soil in the process. Don't worry, the Soylent Corporation has a solution!
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Sep 6, 2022 17:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1566797139023462405 SplitSoul posted:Also I don't know about the quality of that Danish study referenced, as they've since instituted a tax on plastic bags and they're practically gone from supermarkets. yeah this one came up before and its not really that great of a source. https://www2.mst.dk/udgiv/publications/2018/02/978-87-93614-73-4.pdf Trabisnikof posted:jk there’s English after the clog part. So they're saying the plastic is good for the climate but not considering methane at all, and also pretending the plastic will be made in Denmark instead of anywhere it would actually be made.
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Sep 6, 2022 17:45
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Oglethorpe posted:that's a rewrite of a post from 2018 I knew I'd seen it before.
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Sep 6, 2022 17:58
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~100 years of unlimited cheese was totally worth it https://twitter.com/UberFacts/status/1541834569049116673?s=20&t=itaVqawf3yrZcLRyXOzcuQ
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Sep 6, 2022 18:04
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That artisan 24 month aged cheddar tho
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Sep 6, 2022 18:09
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Kicked Throat posted:~100 years of unlimited cheese was totally worth it look at all that water! droughts over boys!
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Sep 6, 2022 18:10
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