Alex Jones: A Sloppy, Disrespectful Mess

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Vashro: May 12, 2004; Proud owner of Lazy Lion #46

B-Rock452 posted:

So now "strangle" is used since it's a more accurate description of an act against someone.

strangle is also a more accurate description of what people commonly refer to as a choke hold although it's usually a combination of both. A strangle is cutting off the blood flow and choke is cutting the air flow.

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# ? May 31, 2024 05:13

Murdstone: Jun 14, 2005; I'm feeling Jimmy

ben shapino posted:

Mr Jones, are you aware that I have your entire collection of chili recipes in my possession?

Well here�s your Hormel moment.

# ? Aug 31, 2022 20:33

Borscht: Jun 4, 2011

Murdstone posted:

Well here’s your Hormel moment.

I mean, there's your Dinty Moore moment!

# ? Sep 1, 2022 01:30

Upsidads: Jan 11, 2007; Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates

Gravy dog, this is your chuck wagon moment

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:07

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

In bankruptcy updates, they released the CT plaintiffs entirely and have a hearing set on a motion to disqualify Schwartz as the debtor in possession as he's just controlled by jones and to appoint tort claims committee.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:09

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Devor posted:

Are you chewing gum? Let me look inside your mouth.

"It's not gum, your honour. I just had a big bowl of chili and got a bean stuck in my tooth."
"You put... beans in your chili?"
"Yeah, you wanna try it? I got a bowl right here."
"No, Mr. Jones, I do not want to try your chili."

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:11

Upsidads: Jan 11, 2007; Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates

Booo! I make only chili meatless and it rocks with beans

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:13

SamDabbers: May 26, 2003

Mr. Nice! posted:

In bankruptcy updates, they released the CT plaintiffs entirely and have a hearing set on a motion to disqualify Schwartz as the debtor in possession as he's just controlled by jones and to appoint tort claims committee.

Any links to read more about this?

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:14

Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

Mr. Nice! posted:

In bankruptcy updates, they released the CT plaintiffs entirely and have a hearing set on a motion to disqualify Schwartz as the debtor in possession as he's just controlled by jones and to appoint tort claims committee.

For us laypeople, what does that mean? That's... a good thing, right?

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:17

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

SamDabbers posted:

Any links to read more about this?

Here's the motion:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.102.0.pdf

Randalor posted:

For us laypeople, what does that mean? That's... a good thing, right?

Yes. The tort claims committee will take over day to day operations of Free Speech Systems including getting full access to financial information.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:26

Gangringo: Jul 22, 2007; In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one sat.

He chose the path of perpetual contentment.

I was playing around with an AI image generator and got these two winners of Alex Jones

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:45

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Not to sound all negative Nancy on this but exactly what enforcement mechanisms are there to ensure they actually get all that financial information? What actually *makes* that happen? Like, forcefully, to guarantee it? We've seen over and over that these poo poo heads are constantly rewarded for just saying no to any enforcement they don't like, so what's the mechanism here and how will that mechanism react when it gets told to gently caress off?

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:46

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

bird food bathtub posted:

Not to sound all negative Nancy on this but exactly what enforcement mechanisms are there to ensure they actually get all that financial information? What actually *makes* that happen? Like, forcefully, to guarantee it? We've seen over and over that these poo poo heads are constantly rewarded for just saying no to any enforcement they don't like, so what's the mechanism here and how will that mechanism react when it gets told to gently caress off?

I think that's why Bankston specifically mentioned a federal receiver. I would assume that someone like that would have actual powers of enforcement, including non-financial penalties.

That is to say, you can lie in a civil court and the most that'll happen is you pay some extra fines, but bankruptcy court includes potential findings for fraud, which includes jail time.

I forget which interview or KF episode that mentioned it, but the reason Jones filed originally under... what was it, Chapter 5? is that it's a limited-scope bankruptcy sub-chapter that doesn't require full transparency because it's meant for small businesses that don't have proper lawyers or accountants.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:51

pseudanonymous: Aug 30, 2008; When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

bird food bathtub posted:

Not to sound all negative Nancy on this but exactly what enforcement mechanisms are there to ensure they actually get all that financial information? What actually *makes* that happen? Like, forcefully, to guarantee it? We've seen over and over that these poo poo heads are constantly rewarded for just saying no to any enforcement they don't like, so what's the mechanism here and how will that mechanism react when it gets told to gently caress off?

IANAL but I would assume things like control over the bank accounts gets handed over to an agent appointed by the committee, so to do business they have to supply the information the agent requests or he can just not disburse funds. etc..

# ? Sep 1, 2022 16:52

KitConstantine: Jan 11, 2013

Mr. Nice! posted:

Here's the motion:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.102.0.pdf

Yes. The tort claims committee will take over day to day operations of Free Speech Systems including getting full access to financial information.

What's the date for the hearing? And does it have a call in number?

Also Schwartz gets absolutely demolished in this motion.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 17:32

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

KitConstantine posted:

What's the date for the hearing? And does it have a call in number?

Also Schwartz gets absolutely demolished in this motion.

Sept 13th at 1:00pm CST. Yes there is a dial in number.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:18

Squatch Ambassador: Nov 12, 2008; What? Never seen a shaved Squatch before?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Here's the motion:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.102.0.pdf

Yes. The tort claims committee will take over day to day operations of Free Speech Systems including getting full access to financial information.

The whole thing's worth reading, but the last few pages have a good summary of shady poo poo Jones has been pulling regarding this bankruptcy filing:

quote:

� As the U.S. Trustee�s office observed, Jones and his company FSS
previously attempted to exploit the subchapter V bankruptcy system to
avoid paying the Sandy Hook Families.

� Months before FSS commenced this bankruptcy, the Sandy Hook
Families had already sued Jones and FSS in the Fraudulent-Transfer Case
for committing fraudulent conveyances under the Texas Uniform
Fraudulent Transfer Act based on what they discovered in the Sandy
Hook Cases.

� During the Sandy Hook Cases against Jones and FSS, Jones drew
between $18 million and $62 million from FSS�even though it was
supposedly insolvent because of its debt to insider PQPR.

� After over a decade of owning and running FSS, Jones finally decided to
enter into an employment agreement with FSS in April 2022, in which he
increased his salary from about $625,000 a year to over $1.3 million�
not including draws.

� Weeks before filing this bankruptcy, Jones pocketed millions of dollars
in cryptocurrency donations FSS solicited from fans to rehabilitate
FSS.

� The Debtor�s CRO appears to have performed no inquiry into Jones�s
transfers�barely knowing any details about these millions in crypto
donations that belong to the Debtor.

� Weeks before commencing this bankruptcy, FSS outsourced the
product-fulfillment operation it had done in-house for years to Blue
Asension�a startup created by Jones�s close friend and personal trainer,
See Infowars Bankruptcy, ECF No. 50, at 16 (�Jones and FSS hand-picked these three holding companies for
bankruptcy as part of a scheme engineered solely to limit their own legal liability, to deny parties in interest a full
accounting of their assets, and to deny individuals their day in court and imminent recovery for established liability.�).
who not only poached FSS�s entire fulfillment team without issue but also
enjoys the use of FSS�s warehouse to operate from at no expense.

� The Debtor�s CRO failed to disclose that FSS overhauled its in-house
fulfillment process just weeks before bankruptcy. Instead, the CRO
testified that Jones�s personal trainer had spearheaded fulfillment at FSS
beforehand, but the personal trainer admitted this was incorrect.

� FSS hired the same CRO as Jones�s other shell entities that first filed for
bankruptcy without the CRO disclosing to the Court that he was working
for both the Infowars Debtors and the Debtor here, which was supposed
to fund the Infowars Bankruptcy in return for a release.

� While the Sandy Hook Cases were pending, FSS concocted a $54 million
secured debt to PQPR, which Jones (72% interest) and his parents own
directly and indirectly through various shells. Specifically, FSS signed
two secured promissory notes totaling over $50 million to PQPR to cover
alleged past debts�even though no records of any debt to PQPR exist
before the Sandy Hook Cases started. The second note, for over $25
million, was created just months after default judgments were rendered
against Jones and FSS. Soon after, FSS started paying PQPR $11,000 a
day. Not surprisingly Jones�s and FSS�s explanation for this debt and its
relationship with PQPR is an evolving story with one consistent theme:
PQPR is a Jones family repository designed to shift assets and obligations
as best suits their needs.

� Despite noting potential claw-back payments by FSS, its CRO has not
investigated any fraudulent transfers and has not even read the Sandy
Hook Families� TUFTA suit, which focuses on Jones�s improper draws
and FSS�s fake secured debt to insider PQPR.123 Instead, the CRO
attested to the PQPR debt�s legitimacy without investigation and asked
that the Court to recognize the debt�s legitimacy in a cash-collateral
order.

� FSS filed for bankruptcy as a small business under subchapter V mid-
trial, days before the jury returned a verdict against it for over $49 million,
which exceeds subchapter V�s liquidated-debt limit by about sevenfold.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 18:55

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Hungry Computer posted:

Weeks before commencing this bankruptcy, FSS outsourced the
product-fulfillment operation it had done in-house for years to Blue
Asension�a startup created by Jones�s close friend and personal trainer,

I'll be honest, I was expect that to say "created by Jones's close friend and tennis partner".

I know it's his wife's tennis partner, but still.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:16

Zamboni Rodeo: Jul 19, 2007; NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!

Somehow the most shocking part of that whole thing is learning that bloated, red-faced, supplement grifter Alex Jones has a personal trainer.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:27

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

"Personal trainer" is how you claim your drug dealer on your expenses.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:39

goatface: Dec 5, 2007; I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.; Grimey Drawer

It used to be "fruit and flowers". Everyone employed very expensive florists to cover the coke budget.

# ? Sep 1, 2022 19:44

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

Mr. Nice! posted:

Yes. The tortilla claims committee...

ftfy...

# ? Sep 2, 2022 02:49

Froghammer: Sep 8, 2012; Khajit has wares
if you have coin

The Connecticut Lawsuit apparently starts this Monday, September 13th. Not sure if it'll be livestreamed like the others.

Get your popcorn ready.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 17:24

pixaal: Jan 8, 2004; All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.

Monday is the 12th

# ? Sep 8, 2022 17:29

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

Froghammer posted:

The Connecticut Lawsuit apparently starts this Monday, September 13th. Not sure if it'll be livestreamed like the others.

Get your popcorn ready.

I hope it is streamed. If we can't get any justice out of this lovely Hellworld at least give us good content. Bread and circuses don't work if there's no bread or circuses

# ? Sep 8, 2022 17:32

Froghammer: Sep 8, 2012; Khajit has wares
if you have coin

pixaal posted:

Monday is the 12th

Sorry I had a big bowl of chili for breakfast

# ? Sep 8, 2022 18:05

Upsidads: Jan 11, 2007; Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates

https://youtu.be/s5vbW-UuVLY

# ? Sep 8, 2022 20:31

LionYeti: Oct 12, 2008

I'm worried that Norm Pattis is gonna try and tank this lawsuit for a mistrial. Is there steps to be taken if defense just goes for a mistrial over and over?

# ? Sep 8, 2022 21:20

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

LionYeti posted:

I'm worried that Norm Pattis is gonna try and tank this lawsuit for a mistrial. Is there steps to be taken if defense just goes for a mistrial over and over?

Can he? I thought mistrials from civil suits were rare.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 21:44

pseudanonymous: Aug 30, 2008; When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

LionYeti posted:

I'm worried that Norm Pattis is gonna try and tank this lawsuit for a mistrial. Is there steps to be taken if defense just goes for a mistrial over and over?

I think you can like lose your law license and face significant sanctions and judges have broad discretion for lawyer shenanigans.

# ? Sep 8, 2022 22:02

Squatch Ambassador: Nov 12, 2008; What? Never seen a shaved Squatch before?

Not sure if anything happened with the trial today, but there's something new from his phone dump:
https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1569488483340754946

# ? Sep 13, 2022 01:58

KitConstantine: Jan 11, 2013

Trial in CT begins tomorrow actually
https://twitter.com/NYTLiz/status/1569469431641944069?t=m0feN7jMUaksqFAMpci2JA&s=19
https://twitter.com/NYTLiz/status/1569469435458760704?t=NA7qB074s3zU-mUlHnNTlA&s=19
A *month* gently caress I barely survived two weeks last time

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:18

bird food bathtub: Aug 9, 2003; College Slice

KitConstantine posted:

Trial in CT begins tomorrow actually
https://twitter.com/NYTLiz/status/1569469431641944069?t=m0feN7jMUaksqFAMpci2JA&s=19
https://twitter.com/NYTLiz/status/1569469435458760704?t=NA7qB074s3zU-mUlHnNTlA&s=19
A *month* gently caress I barely survived two weeks last time

My body is ready, though my supply of chili bowls may run low. Is the insanity going to be streamed? I want to see that pasty red-faced fucker squirm.

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:20

Automatic Slim: Jul 1, 2007

Squatch Ambassador posted:

Not sure if anything happened with the trial today, but there's something new from his phone dump:
https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1569488483340754946

A man who bathes conspiracy theories is paranoid and spys on his own family. Who would�ve guessed?

e: the chili makes him forget the names of his family members so he has to keep track of them somehow.

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:21

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Squatch Ambassador posted:

Not sure if anything happened with the trial today, but there's something new from his phone dump:
https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1569488483340754946

God that shot of his tomato-like face is some prime av material

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:21

Xiahou Dun: Jul 16, 2009; We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.

Cyrano4747 posted:

God that shot of his tomato-like face is some prime av material

It�s pretty ominous when an admin says things like this.

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:32

KitConstantine: Jan 11, 2013

Xiahou Dun posted:

It�s pretty ominous when an admin says things like this.

He's merely a mod friend

Though I agree with him :getin:

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:34

Xiahou Dun: Jul 16, 2009; We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.

KitConstantine posted:

He's merely a mod friend

Though I agree with him

O poo poo. I thought he was an admin. My bad.

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:37

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

Xiahou Dun posted:

O poo poo. I thought he was an admin. My bad.

always check the color of the star

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:40

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# ? May 31, 2024 05:13

KitConstantine: Jan 11, 2013

Xiahou Dun posted:

O poo poo. I thought he was an admin. My bad.

Lol I'm just joshin. it's not an insult and he used to be an admin.

Though I make no guarantees RE: my restraint if someone makes an av-sized version

# ? Sep 13, 2022 02:40

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