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"don't go to qcs to disagree with a decision" seems like a problem
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:52 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 14:31 |
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I said come in! posted:Most (if not all of it?) was for children characters / actual people being sexualized. SA unfortunately has a history with posters like this, so I can understand the admins decision, but it could have been handled better still. Yeah, the content posted definitely deserved a perma.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:52 |
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Yeah, I'm not defending anybody who got got. Just tired of most of these blow ups being waaaaaaay past due.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:54 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:"don't go to qcs to disagree with a decision" seems like a problem He didn't get perma'd for disagreeing with a decision
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:55 |
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No Dignity posted:He didn't get perma'd for disagreeing with a decision no, but the thread right now is in a "investigate everyone who disagrees" mood which makes qcs unusable. and i completely agree with blasting that thread/IK but that specific atmosphere nearly killed the forum two years ago.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:56 |
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I appreciate that way back when a mod edited the post way back when to ensure it was properly tagged NWS
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:56 |
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Shinjobi posted:Yeah, I'm not defending anybody who got got. Just tired of most of these blow ups being waaaaaaay past due. you can't expect the mods to click on the threads in their forums
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 18:59 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:no, but the thread right now is in a "investigate everyone who disagrees" mood which makes qcs unusable. Your takeaway from 'guy sticks neck out for people posting cp, is revealed to have also posted cp' is that QCS is just too darn nosy about peoples post histories?
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:02 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:no, but the thread right now is in a "investigate everyone who disagrees" mood which makes qcs unusable. that “specific atmosphere” was from a handful of manic narcissists and a con artist making up accusations against people with no evidence. there is plenty of evidence for this current atmosphere. one may in fact wish that there was less evidence
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:02 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:no, but the thread right now is in a "investigate everyone who disagrees" mood which makes qcs unusable. I've no beef with you but I wanna say that this is missing context, which is that Khanstant created and then posted a weird image of Ash Ketchum, the perpetual ten-year-old, doing stuff with his cloaca. it's just a no on that it's a message board and people can just look up your posts, it's not a good idea to go into the thread where the admins are just getting back from exhaustively reading through awful, disgusting poo poo to complain about who was banned for that when you also make and post awful, disgusting poo poo. I think that's just not using your brain
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:03 |
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Big anti horny energy lately, is this a blowback from how horny 2019 and 2020 were? Around that time you had people loudly announce their fetishes and things like the word “vore” entered common language. Strange times those were
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:04 |
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No Dignity posted:Your takeaway from 'guy sticks neck out for people posting cp, is revealed to have also posted cp' is that QCS is just too darn nosy about peoples post histories? my takeaway is that an atmosphere where anyone who disagrees with consensus is immediately viewed as a potential forum enemy is something which can very quickly lead to ugly places, and it doesn't matter how justified it was in this specific case.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:05 |
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hatty posted:Big anti horny energy lately, is this a blowback from how horny 2019 and 2020 were? Around that time you had people loudly announce their fetishes and things like the word “vore” entered common language. Strange times those were Goons took horny too far and ruined it. Horny is prohibited.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:08 |
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Arrrthritis posted:Goons took horny too far and ruined it. Horny is prohibited. they won't even let us vote for Bowsette anymore
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:09 |
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Huh I didn't realise we'd had another huge drama *changes the Days Since the Forum Had a Pedo Thread sign back to 0*
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:10 |
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hatty posted:Big anti horny energy lately, is this a blowback from how horny 2019 and 2020 were? Around that time you had people loudly announce their fetishes and things like the word “vore” entered common language. Strange times those were I'd be all for also permabanning people who couldn't and still can't shut up about resident evil or mario characters or w/e
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:10 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:my takeaway is that an atmosphere where anyone who disagrees with consensus is immediately viewed as a potential forum enemy is something which can very quickly lead to ugly places Ah I see you've not posted in QCS before
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:11 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:my takeaway is that an atmosphere where anyone who disagrees with consensus is immediately viewed as a potential forum enemy is something which can very quickly lead to ugly places, and it doesn't matter how justified it was in this specific case. the consensus of posting sexualised drawings of kids is bad... terrifying...
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:12 |
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Oxxidation posted:that “specific atmosphere” was from a handful of manic narcissists and a con artist making up accusations against people with no evidence. there is plenty of evidence for this current atmosphere. one may in fact wish that there was less evidence that blowup started with posts which were legitimately over the line and should have been slapped. It turned into a thing which almost killed the forums because "freak hunting" is the specific type of atmosphere that encourages factions and bad actors. anyway i don't want to blow this thread up, it's just a weird atmosphere lately.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:13 |
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hatty posted:Big anti horny energy lately, is this a blowback from how horny 2019 and 2020 were? Around that time you had people loudly announce their fetishes and things like the word “vore” entered common language. Strange times those were I think the issue is that left to its own devices horny energy corrupts. Tread carefully in a horny zone, friend.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:13 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:"don't go to qcs to disagree with a decision" seems like a problem you can post in qcs that you disagree with nearly any decision. the one that you probably cant is people openly posting underaged fetish pics if you also have done that and its in your rap sheet. outside of that nothing seemst o happen to people disagreeing or arguing at all.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:17 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:that blowup started with posts which were legitimately over the line and should have been slapped. It turned into a thing which almost killed the forums because "freak hunting" is the specific type of atmosphere that encourages factions and bad actors. it turned into a thing because one of the mods was a thief who was deliberately stoking the flames to gain an admin position and continue scamming people with impunity if this has precedent it’s that AGDQ blowup where a bunch of people got whacked because they thought a speedrunning thread was a primo place to unload their R-rated videogame art folders
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:18 |
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Stux posted:the consensus of posting sexualised drawings of kids is bad... terrifying... and back then it was a consensus against racists, bigots and transphobes which i assume everyone agrees is bad. this eventually devolved into people making lists of forum enemies for posting about Neopets. i don't think the gas/bans in that thread are unjustified but this is specifically the kind of atmosphere that can be hijacked by opportunists and turned into this. Oxxidation posted:it turned into a thing because one of the mods was a thief who was deliberately stoking the flames to gain an admin position and continue scamming people with impunity yeah because the idea of there being a group of forum enemies that must be seeked out and destroyed is really, really easy to hijack
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:21 |
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Has anyone played the Klonoa remasters? I'm tempted to pick em up, never got to play the originals.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:22 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:that blowup started with posts which were legitimately over the line and should have been slapped. It turned into a thing which almost killed the forums because "freak hunting" is the specific type of atmosphere that encourages factions and bad actors. i think when the "freak hunting" is literally just mods taking action against literal underage porn, that's a specific type of atmosphere that I am extremely glad exists. i am proudly in the anti child porn faction and i will gladly destroy anyone in the opposing faction because their argument is that they would like to present child porn to the something awful forums. this is not a good thing to try and "both sides", it is not just forum bickering.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:22 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:and back then it was a consensus against racists, bigots and transphobes which i assume everyone agrees is bad. this eventually devolved into people making lists of forum enemies for posting about Neopets. theres significantly less room for misinterpretation or lack of context when it comes to people posting images of underaged characters vs the adolf hitler megathread
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:24 |
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Shinjobi posted:Has anyone played the Klonoa remasters? I'm tempted to pick em up, never got to play the originals. Yeah they're good ports of two of the best platformers ever made
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:28 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:and back then it was a consensus against racists, bigots and transphobes which i assume everyone agrees is bad. this eventually devolved into people making lists of forum enemies for posting about Neopets. "we shouldn't ban for racism or transphobia because it'll create an environment where people make forum enemies" is what i'm getting from this, but that can't possibly be a real take so you're gonna have to explain this further
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:30 |
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I averted my eyes quick and will not double-check but it looked like a grown-up Ash Ketchum
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:30 |
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Stux posted:theres significantly less room for misinterpretation or lack of context when it comes to people posting images of underaged characters vs the adolf hitler megathread this is a user base which has repeatedly called an admin a pedophile for a) having an avatar from an anime people don't like, and b) making a bad-taste joke anyway I'm sorry to argue I just loving hate this, it's depressing. i just like posting here, I don't want to view the people posting as infested with enemies to be cleansed.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:31 |
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People using rhe atmosphere of hunting nazis to make lists of posters to harass which were in reality just their posting enemies and not nazis at all was a thing that happened, and I assume is what's being referenced
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:31 |
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It’s a witch hunt atmosphere except the witches are real and actually do eat children
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:32 |
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cheetah7071 posted:People using rhe atmosphere of hunting nazis to make lists of posters to harass which were in reality just their posting enemies and not nazis at all was a thing that happened, and I assume is what's being referenced well okay, but what's the solution? not hunt nazis? you don't think people will harass their posting enemies anyway? i'm sad that it turns out there are horrible posters on the something awful forums too, but I would much rather deal with wokescold idiots taking it too far than actual nazis and pedos.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:34 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:this is a user base which has repeatedly called an admin a pedophile for a) having an avatar from an anime people don't like, and b) making a bad-taste joke that happened to admins way before any of this was unearthed and will continue to happen until the forums are consumed by the death of the sun. i don't want to view people that way either, and it's very easy not to, largely by not doing that.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:36 |
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i got the complete space suit in dinkum im a astronaut
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:37 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:this is a user base which has repeatedly called an admin a pedophile for a) having an avatar from an anime people don't like, and b) making a bad-taste joke my brother, what just happened was people posting images publically of udneraged characters in sexual situations being permaed. not whatever else it is ur talking about.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:43 |
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Kerrzhe posted:i got the complete space suit in dinkum Can you travel into space in Dinkum
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:43 |
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i'm a woke scold
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:44 |
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Relax Or DIE posted:i'm a woke scold
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 19:46 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 14:31 |
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Stux posted:my brother, what just happened was people posting images publically of udneraged characters in sexual situations being permaed. not whatever else it is ur talking about. and the way this is exploited is by expanding the definition to include whoever you don't like. "bigots" turns into anyone who thinks blowing up FYAD was an overreaction, and ive seen enough poo poo to know that it's entirely possible to expand the definition of pretty much anything this way. i don't disagree at all that the thread should have been gassed and the worst actors banned at all. but when people start posting poo poo about how anyone who disagrees should be suspected, that's bad poo poo.
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