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Ihmemies posted:Would spell block do? I could increase it with tempest shield. Glancing blows of course means 2/3 of the blocked dmg goes through. I am not sure glancing blow is good now,but 100% spell suppression is one of the most important defensive layer.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 21:59 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 10:16 |
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Femur posted:I am not sure glancing blow is good now,but 100% spell suppression is one of the most important defensive layer. It's much much harder to get 100% spell suppression now unless you're over on the right side of the tree or are have high dex and can get Magebane, but none of those apply to an Elementalist. Not to mention with Doryani's Prototype you can't get any from your body armor. They really did make it very difficult to get 100% spell suppression outside of Ranger/Shadow unless you have super good gear.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:07 |
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Awesome! posted:i absolutely killed myself to reflect with a lvl 20 frostblink when i played rf last league. totally doable if you blink into a big pack. Oh right I forgot you multiply by the number of mobs hit .
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:15 |
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Ihmemies posted:What is a number I need to achieve so my guy doesn't keel over when someone touches my guy? Have you got life gain on block? If not, glancing blows is a trap and you're worse off than not having it.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:18 |
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People complained for several seasons about flask sustain. Now the game showers you in flasks, but you still complain? What's your problem?
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:21 |
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I don't actually mind the flask mod on rares, but they should probably make it so they drop fully quality'd in maps so they're at least a bauble
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:26 |
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There should be an archnem mod that causes all of its items to drop with 20+% quality
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:28 |
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DaveWoo posted:There should be an archnem mod that causes all of its items to drop with 20+% quality So what you're saying is two mods that drop scads of smithing stones
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:30 |
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If there's one thing I had trouble with before it was sustaining low tier quality currency
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:31 |
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This is the first season I haven’t had to move my filter a level up and down because I was out of tp scrolls. Thank you whetstone mobs!!!
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:34 |
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I still don’t understand why scours are so rare Every things has filled up but them.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:35 |
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poemdexter posted:This is the first season I haven’t had to move my filter a level up and down because I was out of tp scrolls. Thank you whetstone mobs!!! I usually edit wisdom and TP scrolls into my stricter filters BECAUSE I MUST HAVE THEM ALL IT'S NOT A SICKNESS HOW DARE YOU but yeah I certainly didn't need to this time around. (Also I think I'm up to my third Portal gem from Div cards)
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:36 |
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the scour+alch reroll is too powerful
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:36 |
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Ihmemies posted:What is a number I need to achieve so my guy doesn't keel over when someone touches my guy? I imported you into pobb.in which doesn't show gear and I'm not an expert on your build so take this with a grain of salt. It looks like you don't have glancing blows allocated, so you're probably using Emperor's Vigilance to split damage between life and es? If so, glancing blows is how you split the damage which lets you be properly hybrid if you have max or near max block. But since you can't block at all if you have no ES, you really need to invest more in ES recovery mechanics and you need to ensure you have a decent life total for unblocked hits. I don't see any obvious ES regen, for example. This shield is great for multi-hit defense but the unblocked hits always pass ES and hit life directly. Since your actual life total isn't high one shots are pretty possible. Finally, your armor isn't amazing for a prototype build, you're not using vaal molten shell, and you have an easy opportunity to slot enduring cry for endurance charges in place of one of the dead gems in your punishment link. Summing up, if I'm right about the shield, prioritize in roughly this order - cap spell block, get some percent ES Regen, increase your life on tree (and maybe gear rolls), get some higher flat armor sources, slot vaal molten shell and use the vaal version with the regular on cwdt, and slot enduring cry.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:36 |
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Femur posted:I am not sure glancing blow is good now,but 100% spell suppression is one of the most important defensive layer. I ran RF last season with 0 spell suppression and never had an issue. It could be the build had 75% spell block though...
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:36 |
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Is that true that glancing blows isn’t worth it without life gain on block or Aegis ?
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:37 |
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Ihmemies posted:Would spell block do? I could increase it with tempest shield. Glancing blows of course means 2/3 of the blocked dmg goes through. ways to convert phys taken as element can help a lot, as well as a lot of armor/ev
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:44 |
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35% block is 35% damage reduction on average. 70% Glancing Blows block is 24.5% damage reduction. Glancing Blows is only good if you are gaining something from blocking.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:44 |
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euphronius posted:Is that true that glancing blows isn’t worth it without life gain on block or Aegis ? Maybe if you have lots of other recovery because it should theoretically flatten out the damage spikes some but otherwise, glancing blows is an overall damage taken increase.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:44 |
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It's a good heuristic but it's got exceptions - glancing blows increases your damage taken over reasonably long sequences of rolls, all else equal, but it does increase the likelihood you survive certain big hits. And it means certain even bigger hits now always one shot you. If you're not getting something good from the block (ie, aegis or shaper life, but also splitting damage between life and es using Emperor's Vigilance, and I'm sure there are other niche abilities that trigger on block) you're probably smoothing out incoming damage (good) but taking more overall damage (real bad). Edit - beaten by Cinara with the numbers making it real clear.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:47 |
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Ihmemies posted:What is a number I need to achieve so my guy doesn't keel over when someone touches my guy? Is there something in your build requiring you to have no lightning res?
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:51 |
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DangerDongs posted:Is there something in your build requiring you to have no lightning res? Doryani's Prototype
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 22:52 |
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DangerDongs posted:Is there something in your build requiring you to have no lightning res? Doryani's prototype gives lightning resistance from armor. So when I have armor I have enough lightning resistance. In fact with the prototype lightning resistance is a problem. I share lightning resistance with mobs, and if my LR is maxed then are mob's LR too. So if I have -50 LR then mobs have -50LR too. I guess the mininum is -200 lightning res. The less resisistance I have, the more dmg mobs take from lightning spells. It took me a while to understand too, I was just following someone's build.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:18 |
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honestly if you have a flask tab it's probably worth it to pick up the good flasks (read: jade, quicksilver, possibly quartz) and just id and control-click them into your flask tab, which you set as buyout 30c or whatever. chemist's jade flask of the impala or whatever is decent money.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:23 |
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Ihmemies posted:Doryani's prototype gives lightning resistance from armor. So when I have armor I have enough lightning resistance. It's good to remember that the line on Prototype that says "Lightning Resistance does not affect Lightning Damage taken" means you always have exactly 0% resistance against Lightning DOT. That gives you like 0.8 seconds to get the gently caress away from Baran mana runes, Shock and Horror beam, Sirus Deatomization Storms, possibly AN mods, etc, before you eat poo poo. Unless you intentionally convert lightning damage away with things that don't specify Hit only, like the Timeless jewel or the Ultimatum shield.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:25 |
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But armor applies to lightning damage with it, and that POB has a lot.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:27 |
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the relevant line is "Armour also applies to Lightning Damage taken from Hits" dots arent hits
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:30 |
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If you're dying with prototype on, the answer is always that you don't have as much lightning mitigation as you think you do.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:31 |
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Isn’t divine flesh a pretty generic Good answer to reducing a lot of ele dmg taken? Seems like it’d work well with prototype. Assuming you got more life and armor.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:36 |
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Zero VGS posted:It's good to remember that the line on Prototype that says "Lightning Resistance does not affect Lightning Damage taken" means you always have exactly 0% resistance against Lightning DOT. That gives you like 0.8 seconds to get the gently caress away from Baran mana runes, Shock and Horror beam, Sirus Deatomization Storms, possibly AN mods, etc, before you eat poo poo. Unless you intentionally convert lightning damage away with things that don't specify Hit only, like the Timeless jewel or the Ultimatum shield. The Mana Siphoner in particular has a ring around it that between other things, does Lightning DoT
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:37 |
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The more I think about it, the more I think they could have done with Archnem loot Have an Archnem modifier that drops Synthesized items Have an Archnem modifier that drops items with Veiled mods Have an Archnem modifier that drops items with Incursion mods Have an Archnem modifier that drops items with Elder/Shaper/Conqueror influences Just go nuts with the whole system
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:53 |
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Unfortunately they can't risk the game being too rewarding, players might leave.
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# ? Sep 9, 2022 23:56 |
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They should remove the scripted gem drops in Twilight Strand; players with that kind of power so quickly can't possibly be having fun
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 00:06 |
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Tabletops posted:Isn’t divine flesh a pretty generic Good answer to reducing a lot of ele dmg taken? Seems like it’d work well with prototype. Assuming you got more life and armor. You're giving up the substantial amount of ES on the Armour; I don't see many people go that route, especially since Aegis Aurora synergies so well with Prototype. But, all of the DoT mitigation methods have compromises. I believe most people go with the "I paid for 6 portals" strategy.
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 00:14 |
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Zero VGS posted:possibly AN mods Mana Siphoner, the blue donut aoe, is a lightning dot. Number one reason I have no interest in playing doryani's builds. I did a doryani's int stacking flicker build in scourge and it was fun as hell but the most difficult boss of them all was shock and horror because that lightning beam would melt me in under a second.
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 00:15 |
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Create more build options by doubling the number ef flask slots but halving flask power.
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 00:18 |
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totalnewbie posted:Mana Siphoner, the blue donut aoe, is a lightning dot. Number one reason I have no interest in playing doryani's builds. Even before AN mods I was getting owned while using Protoype. Thankfully it turns out that in party play a cursebot with AG can stack enough -res to give endgame bosses -200% of any element, so I get to enjoy the absurd damage with none of the drawback now.
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 00:18 |
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TyrantWD posted:This league really was a quadruple whammy of dull/unrewarding league mechanic, reverting all of the AN balance tweaking from last league, loot changes, and the worst part which was the skill balancing leaving us on 3.17 but everything other than SRS is varying worse.
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 01:38 |
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Drakyn posted:Don't make me tap the cleave sign again. Why, what'd they do to cleave
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 01:47 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 10:16 |
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quote:Cleave now has +0 to Radius at gem level 1 (unchanged), up to +10 to Radius at gem level 20 (previously +8).
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# ? Sep 10, 2022 01:48 |