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https://twitter.com/SocDemsAmerica/status/1569332463222280195quote:For SDA, liberalism is not so much pernicious as it is incomplete, a “near left” that we of SDA can successfully work with and form coalitions with; as many liberals, instead of being studied “centrists,” or wedded to mere “diversity” and “equitableness” under neoliberal economics, are honest grassroots progressives who do, in fact, agree with much of what DSA calls for, says, and advocates. We of SDA proudly march with such “mere” liberals!
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 06:02 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 07:40 |
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So they view socialism the same way that conservatives do: Liberalism, but moreso.
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 10:48 |
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*sifts through book, looking up* There's nothing in the rules that states a pair of pants can't sue a political organization
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 11:09 |
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drat now i want to join the dsa
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 13:29 |
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chino, you fool. marxism is the only means by which liberalism's promises can actually be fulfilled
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# ? Sep 13, 2022 17:26 |
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I’m running a virtual book club in a month discussing Women, Race, and Class by Angela Davis, so I did a study guide by chapter and pulled as many resources as I could together to help people who wouldn’t have time, energy, or ability to read the book. The book is an incredible “intro to being a Marxist-Leninist” and each concept is communicated with just perfect brevity and clarity, “simple enough and no simpler,” and the book dialectically builds on itself. If I’d interest, feel free to critique or contribute anything I should change or add. https://linktr.ee/measuringspoon
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# ? Sep 14, 2022 04:17 |
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Is anybody familiar with "ABCs of Communism" by Jason Wallace Smith? I can't find much about him but his Amazon bio is interesting and he's got a huge catalog of videos spanning 5 years. I've only watched one so far and he looks like a church pastor but he seems really knowledgeable about Communism and his book on the subject is updated every couple of years it looks like and it currently sits at 1500 pages. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mYTtXH7GVBo
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# ? Sep 14, 2022 23:33 |
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frantz fanon posted:
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 03:41 |
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quote:[The Enclosure Acts are] also interesting because they coincided with a boom in agricultural surplus from new technologies and innovations so its basically the only known successful example of collectivization. quote:It consolidated control of farmland under fewer hands. Whether it is under the auspices of the state or an individual is irrelevant. Much in the same way like 2 megacorporations own most of the farmland in North America I would also call "collectivization" under this definition.
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 08:58 |
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gently caress he's such a moron
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 10:38 |
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had to search the quote and loled when I saw his avatar
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 11:23 |
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 14:12 |
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how far down will this thread drop in cspam when vicky 3 releases
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 15:15 |
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Goast posted:how far down will this thread drop in cspam when vicky 3 releases testing Preobrazhensky's principles of applied political economy through gamified economic planning: totally my poo poo
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 15:40 |
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are jrpgs socialist
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 15:45 |
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 16:58 |
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boy I sure love discussing upcoming videogame by paradox interactive - Victoria 3.
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 17:03 |
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 17:41 |
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I hate that I could figure out which goon the quote is from before even looking it up.
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 17:54 |
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Proletarian Mango posted:Is anybody familiar with "ABCs of Communism" by Jason Wallace Smith? I can't find much about him but his Amazon bio is interesting and he's got a huge catalog of videos spanning 5 years. I've only watched one so far and he looks like a church pastor but he seems really knowledgeable about Communism and his book on the subject is updated every couple of years it looks like and it currently sits at 1500 pages. I started in on the first one and it’s very well articulated and clarified, but my god what a body of work. And no playlists or other organization. Edit: uhhh skipped around a little and he talks about cranial capacity a whole lot. Some weird phrenology stuff maybe??? Sunny Side Up has issued a correction as of 21:57 on Sep 15, 2022 |
# ? Sep 15, 2022 19:02 |
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Tankbuster posted:boy I sure love discussing upcoming videogame by paradox interactive - Victoria 3. remember imperator:rome?
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# ? Sep 15, 2022 19:11 |
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my dad posted:I hate that I could figure out which goon the quote is from before even looking it up. thanks for making me feel like I'm less online (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 02:36 |
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Sunny Side Up posted:I started in on the first one and it’s very well articulated and clarified, but my god what a body of work. And no playlists or other organization. Eeesh. I didn't see anything about that in the little I watched. I guess I'll poke around a little more to sus it out but that's a bummer if he gets into race science poo poo because that first video was real interesting and as you said he's articulate and clear in speech. And yeah, huge body of work.
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 02:46 |
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Sunny Side Up posted:I started in on the first one and it’s very well articulated and clarified, but my god what a body of work. And no playlists or other organization. would you mind providing a link, preferably with a timestamp?
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 02:57 |
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The Voice of Labor posted:thanks for making me feel like I'm less online lol
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 05:07 |
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croup coughfield posted:would you mind providing a link, preferably with a timestamp? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szaDG9aZMrg 4:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmw6CyH9vO4 1:00 or so Maybe he’s just explaining evolution? I was just bouncing around
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 06:08 |
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https://twitter.com/RedGuardGrind/status/1570452259032424448?cxt=HHwWgICzxcmAr8srAAAA
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 16:43 |
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Sunny Side Up posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szaDG9aZMrg 4:20 In the first video, from watching the first ten minutes, he's talking about Australopithecus and Homo Erectus in comparison to Homo Sapiens and the evolution of tool use and explaining how Marx's formulas can be applied to even primitive hunter gatherer bands and how each successive species built upon what the prior one had produced. In the second video he is also discussing Australopithecus and Homo Erectus, their continental migrations, and the different modes of production arising from these migrations into different environments. Primitive communism appears to be the overall topic. All mentions of cranial sizes that I've seen are in reference to the differences in size between Australopithecus, Homo Erectus, and Homo Sapiens. Not between Homo Sapiens themselves.
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 23:11 |
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/RedGuardGrind/status/1570452259032424448?cxt=HHwWgICzxcmAr8srAAAA Mikoyan & Gurevich ice cream design bureau
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 23:47 |
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Proletarian Mango posted:In the first video, from watching the first ten minutes, he's talking about Australopithecus and Homo Erectus in comparison to Homo Sapiens and the evolution of tool use and explaining how Marx's formulas can be applied to even primitive hunter gatherer bands and how each successive species built upon what the prior one had produced. Will the tankies never relent with their speciesism?
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# ? Sep 16, 2022 23:52 |
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"Stalinism" was a popular demand by the lower party without regard to the particular personality of Stalin. Stalinism will be forced on the party in general by its popularity in local branches and committees, as local members demand that middle management be executed for incompetence so that they can become middle management. The five year plans were inevitable given the party's reaction to the Ural-siberian method (more below). The membership of the party and non-party managers were constrained by their decision to not try to murder the urban working class, nor to allow the urban working class to try to murder them. Without this revolutionary working class civil war occurring, the nomenklatura were then forced into a position where they would devastate the Soviet peasantry and agricultural workers, and the prior systems of rural surplus extraction. This incidentally meant that a number of regions were at high risk of famine should there be bad agricultural seasons as the party and elite were about to remove the existing famine amelioration systems, and weren't planning to have famine amelioration systems in place any time soon. In this context the five year plans produced a new Soviet working class, diluting the existing working class, destroying shop traditions of struggle, removing working class power, eliminating revolutionaries, forcing Taylorism ("Stakhanovism" a middle management technique) onto existing and new factories. Both of these processes required a massive repressive system, expanding the existing political camps system was the easiest way, doing so with the utmost brutality was the cheapest way, these turning into mass preventable mortality sites in further social crisis was near inevitable, and the fuckholes running them expanding them to increase their economic control was simply nomenklatura/capitalist power in a factory prison system of death and class rule. Most people think of the immediate prior paragraph as "Stalinism." "Stalinism" is inevitable should the nomenklatura choose to not fight the urban working class in 1927-1929. Because it is the immediately available way to secure nomenklatura class power and avoid being executed by armed bands of workers. The Soviet elite were faced with the question of whether they would fight workers to death in 1927-1929 because of the failure of the NEP's agricultural policies in the "scissors" crises. The urban working class started spontaneously seizing arms caches, traveling out to the countryside in the Ural-Siberian area, and seizing grain to meet their demands for cheaper, more, higher quality food. This was the first stage of the "Ural-Siberian" method of forced collectivisation. The party chose to jump onboard the bull and take the wild ride. Because had they attempted to stop this happening and sided with the peasantry and rural working class, they would have caused a second civil war due to the high organisation of urban workers and their utter discontent with the failed urban-rural economic pricing system in the NEP. The NEP failed because there were no consumer goods worth buying for peasants. Peasants therefore restricted their market participation by producing less, and consuming home made goods (like alcohol). The previous Russian system had relied on state, church, debt, fedual relations, rent and violence. The Soviet Union had abolished the feudal and church dues, much of the rent and debt was wiped out, and the state taxes weren't nearly high enough to support the demanded standards of living in food that urban workers desired. Prior to WWI Russia was an imperial semi-colony of French capitalism. There were no adequate import-substitution factories in consumer goods to support the urban demands after the war. Russia needs to be colonised by a capitalist power for socialism to survive. We will address this below. There are some other options, of course.
So the KAPD seizes control of Germany and starts exporting consumer goods to the Russian Social Federated Soviet Republic and Aligned Soviet States; while exporting Factory Based Left Communism and Workers Control against the Bolshevik Party's interests in a ]|[ Internationale where a workers councilist line beats Bolshevism up for breakfast because the German economy is larger, and capitalist, and imperialist, and the Russian economy is smaller, and semi-peripherally capitalist, and colonial? It is almost as if they were made for each other. And it'll drive France economically insane because there's no decent sop for French Capital any more. Also forces the German and Russian economies into more developed socialism and workers councils due to the larger size of the economy and the rural crisis being economically solved.
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# ? Sep 17, 2022 00:43 |
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Proletarian Mango posted:In the first video, from watching the first ten minutes, he's talking about Australopithecus and Homo Erectus in comparison to Homo Sapiens and the evolution of tool use and explaining how Marx's formulas can be applied to even primitive hunter gatherer bands and how each successive species built upon what the prior one had produced. Thank you sorry I jumped the gun
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# ? Sep 17, 2022 04:16 |
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Sunny Side Up posted:If you want a beautiful (and far more digestible and brief) explanation of the four main types of alienation and Marx’s evolution of thought from feuerbach to diamat, and a more clearly articulated progression of alienation under feudalism to the obscenely alienated state of capitalism (leaning on all works from M+E, but especially the newly released notebook translations from the MEGA), I highly recommend Saito’s Ecosocialism. IMO it helps with digesting the whole of Capital + Grundrisse. Cpt_Obvious posted:Post it bitch. Edit: https://tinyurl.com/4a8x5pdj (Mega.nz link) First draft, please please read and let me know if the ideas flow and I haven’t cut too much out. Sunny Side Up has issued a correction as of 13:30 on Sep 17, 2022 |
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That file host opened a new.tab and tried to download an .APK. so that's kinda dodgy. But thanks for posting the PDF.
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# ? Sep 17, 2022 04:20 |
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droll posted:That file host opened a new.tab and tried to download an .APK. so that's kinda dodgy. But thanks for posting the PDF. Oh I’m sorry in the AM I’ll host it elsewhere!
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# ? Sep 17, 2022 04:25 |
What is the latest historical context of bukharin's eventual execution? I've read that they tried to do it much earlier but stalin wasn't on board for a while and stopped it a few times because he wanted something more along the lines of politically sidelining him and house arrest. Was this true or just some political song and dance to look merciful and appear like its the plan b.
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# ? Sep 17, 2022 16:18 |
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someone should add detail or correct me here because i only know broad strokes from losurdo and other scattered sources, but iirc there were two things that made bukharin politically suspect: 1. was one of the bolsheviks who really opposed brest-litovsk to the point of at least entertaining a mutiny against lenin for betraying the revolution at the time 2. was economically on the "right" of the party and wanted to continue the NEP, free up markets to allow peasants and small holders to enrich themselves, etc (kind of prescient in light of the success of dengism but maybe not a good idea at the time) of course probably the biggest problem is that he was one of the last old bolsheviks that anti-stalin party members could rally behind as a figurehead once trotsky, zinoviev, and the other "leftists" were defeated, so whether or not he was guilty of whatever he represented a potential threat to the ruling faction
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# ? Sep 17, 2022 20:19 |
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I thought the new article on the Tricontinental, Ten Theses on Marxism and Decolonisation, was good.quote:Thesis Two: The Battle of Ideas.
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# ? Sep 21, 2022 15:15 |
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Ferrinus posted:1. was one of the bolsheviks who really opposed brest-litovsk to the point of at least entertaining a mutiny against lenin for betraying the revolution at the time Very different from Dengism, however. The NEP, as Bukharin envisioned, was to work somewhat like an idealized USA in terms of capital accumulation and development. Preobrazhensky: E.A. Preobrazhensky, "From N.E.P. to Socialism" posted:But while possessing all the natural resources for a temporary isolated economic existence (before the proletarian revolution in other countries), Soviet Russia nevertheless also needed, in order to ensure the most rapid development of its productive forces, economic connexions with capitalist Europe. While the capitalist countries were urged towards Russia by the need to seek markets and supplies of raw material for their developed industry, Russia was urged towards Europe by the inadequacy of her industrial development, which, in turn, was held back by the disorganized state of agriculture. Without a sufficiently sound agriculture Russian pre-revolutionary capitalist industry could not have survived. Without a strong agriculture socialist industry could not develop rapidly. But for agriculture to get quickly on to its feet, it needed external help, it needed, and on a large scale, not only short-term commercial credit but, also, and mainly, long-term credit, credit for land-improvement and for the restoration of the economy. Russian socialist industry was not able to furnish this aid to agriculture on a large scale; it could not provide credit on any substantial scale because it was itself in need of help through credit. It lacked sufficient circulating capital, and had to a large extent worn out its equipment during the war and the revolution. This was the backbone that made the NEP possible in terms of its "logic". For Stalin and Lenin, in their criticism, it was about divesting effort from what was working, namely the development of means of socialist production and distribution which, although very insufficient in comparison to capitalist development, were guaranteeing economic growth and advancement in scales not possible - what Preobrazhensky describes as the organized action of the socialist state. Bukharin was an easy target in the sense that "NEPmen" were perceived as opportunists, not really caring for the revolution, with many accusations against them especially from the peasantry.
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# ? Sep 21, 2022 17:54 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 07:40 |
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I remember clearly that every college class I took that touched on the Soviet Union cast Bukharin as a Good Guy who was beaten into making a false confession and murdered after a show trial, because his policies were too good.
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# ? Sep 21, 2022 18:36 |