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morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Lumbermouth posted:

I think what came out is that he was trying to make as much money as possible because he’s suffering from aphasia.

Whether he wanted to or not someone should probably have still stepped in significantly earlier

quote:

In one alleged incident two years ago on a Cincinnati set of the movie “Hard Kill,” Willis unexpectedly fired a gun loaded with a blank on the wrong cue, according to two people familiar with the incident who were not authorized to comment. No one was injured. The film’s producer disputed that the incident occurred, but the alleged discharge left actors and crew members shaken.

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Concerned about Willis’ mental state, he said he approached the actor’s team — which is led by his assistant-turned-handler Stephen J. Eads — and bluntly asked about the actor’s condition.

“They stated that he was happy to be there, but that it would be best if we could finish shooting him by lunch and let him go early,” Johnson recalled of the conversation. Filmmakers proceeded to quickly film the actor’s parts, even as Willis questioned where he was: “I know why you’re here, and I know why you’re here, but why am I here?” two crew members said he asked aloud.

“It was less of an annoyance and more like: ‘How do we not make Bruce look bad?’” one of the crew members said. “Someone would give him a line and he didn’t understand what it meant. He was just being puppeted.”

morestuff fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Aug 22, 2022

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dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
I just looked it up and Willis is in nine movies this year.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

dokmo posted:

I just looked it up and Willis is in nine movies this year.

We'll probably see a few more come out next year as the rest of whatever he was rapidly filming over the past couple of years finishes coming out.

Of all these flicks I still can't believe how ineptly made in particular Cosmic Sin and Apex are. Like Willis' mental state isn't even in the top 10 reasons those movies are absolute mega-dogshit. The former is too boring to watch but the latter is definitely worth checking out for how loving stupid it is.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006

Neo Rasa posted:

We'll probably see a few more come out next year as the rest of whatever he was rapidly filming over the past couple of years finishes coming out.

Of all these flicks I still can't believe how ineptly made in particular Cosmic Sin and Apex are. Like Willis' mental state isn't even in the top 10 reasons those movies are absolute mega-dogshit. The former is too boring to watch but the latter is definitely worth checking out for how loving stupid it is.

I’d watch pretty much anything with Willis in it, but it’s really depressing watching these movies and knowing his mental state.

It really feels like his agent was trying to make as much money as possible off of his name while he still could or something.

Speaking of Willis, let me tell you about the time my mom rented color of night because it had Willis in it, without reading the back and then had a movie night with me…

So loving awkward.

Narzack
Sep 15, 2008
Yiiiiiiikes

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

forest spirit posted:

:dogstare:
:lmao:

feel like trying to explain the magic of RRR is like trying to explain the beauty of nature

That's ok, I'm fine with some things staying a mystery!


dokmo posted:

I just looked it up and Willis is in nine movies this year.

If those movies are anything like the one RLM reviewed, that probably amounts to like 40 minutes on-set time though.

dokmo
Aug 27, 2006

:stat:man
Looks like an Indian ripoff of Aliens and Predator is coming up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Pu7MoKVQk

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Inzombiac posted:

Oh boy, Day Shift should be right up my alley.
It's essentially a Hunter: The Reckoning (World of Darkness TTRPG) set in LA but I thought it was fairly forgettable.

Some neat action and liberal use of contortionists as "spider" vamps was neat and the world overall has potential. A solid C+. I've seen waaaaaay worse.
Yeah, the action choreography was pretty good in spite of the whole thing being extremely silly. They're clearly setting up for a sequel; if they can't get Foxx back it'll be the Nazarian Bros. vs. El Jefe and I'm down for that.

The whole thing made a lot more sense when my spouse explained that they hired the people who were laid off from Cirque du Soleil.

Ulio
Feb 17, 2011


dokmo posted:

It's a fun, fun movie op.

RRR is ridicolously over the top in terms of action but it doesn't take itself too serious and has some nice songs which I usually hate in Bollywood movies. Actually 90s had a lot of action movies with heroes like that who were basically gods. That's before the superhero/marvel plague.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

https://twitter.com/TheScottAdkins/status/1567156239976497158

:sickos: Have to keep an eye on this, I was a fan of the first one (after being a fan of the comic it was based on as a teen)

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Picked up a Blu-Ray of Cliffhanger, which I hadn't seen in ages; a good bad movie. Had a :wtc: realisation early on that I can't believe had never occurred to me before: the bad guys' plan is to kill the loyal Treasury agents on the jet, then do a mid-air transfer with the money to John Lithgow's plane and fly away. People who need to be involved: Rex Linn, his pilot, Lithgow, his pilot and co-pilot, and maybe a guy with a big hook to catch the cable. But for some reason Lithgow has also brought along about half a dozen psychopathic mercenaries armed with machine guns, grenade launchers and a shitload of C4, who could only be of any use to him if the plane happened to crash in the Rocky Mountains and he needed to force some plucky rescue climbers to help find the lost money cases. But how likely is that, right?

Still, it's worth it for the done-for-real aerial stunt and the still gripping opening, as well as the scenery porn (shot in Italy rather than the real Rockies). Lithgow's gleefully cartoony villain is great fun too, with a collection of one-liners that sound like he'd come up with them ages ago and was waiting for any vaguely relevant excuse to use them.

YouTube has various action scenes from the NC-17 workprint, which were cut down to bring it to an R (it's still pretty bloody and brutal even so), but unfortunately they're absolutely terrible copy-of-a-copy VHS quality.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
"WALKER! You resilient bastard." That line just pops into my head from time to time.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
Frank's (The late Ralph Waite) death in Cliffhanger is messed up. For a stupid movie, it's an affecting scene and Rooker absolutely sells pre-emptive grief and helplessness. Also, you tell the bit where Stallone shoots up through the ice was re-edited and that Rooker's character originally killed the baddie there. He throws aside a shotgun he hasn't used up to the point right before he runs over.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Today is Ten Years Since The Premiere Of Dredd Day, by the way (I saw it opening night), so take a big hit of Slo-Mo to celebrate. 317 cookie-cutter Marvel and DC punchmans movies in that time, but not one single other 2000AD adaptation? :iiam:

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Watched it in 3D again the night. Still rips and one of the best movies to take advantage of the medium.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


The shot of the first slo-mo room raid where the bullet rips through that one guy's cheek and it shreds open in glittery wonder as blood spills over the bottom letterbox bar was so good. Gorgeous bit of ultraviolence (which feels weird to acknowledge).

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Trailer for Accident Man: Hitman's Holiday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwJ8AFMUrPo

The first one was a nice tongue-mostly-in-cheek mid-level actioneer jaunt and this looks like more of the same, albeit with more "Smokin' Aces energy".

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Payndz posted:

Today is Ten Years Since The Premiere Of Dredd Day, by the way (I saw it opening night), so take a big hit of Slo-Mo to celebrate. 317 cookie-cutter Marvel and DC punchmans movies in that time, but not one single other 2000AD adaptation? :iiam:

It is not because Dredd came out on my birthday, the 21st. Which was also my 21st birthday.

Dredd will always be special to me for that

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

CelticPredator posted:

It is not because Dredd came out on my birthday, the 21st. Which was also my 21st birthday.

Dredd will always be special to me for that
UK premiere. But happy birthday (in two weeks).

Speaking of twoooo weeeeks, must get the BR of Total Recall next.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Snowman_McK posted:

Frank's (The late Ralph Waite) death in Cliffhanger is messed up. For a stupid movie, it's an affecting scene and Rooker absolutely sells pre-emptive grief and helplessness. Also, you tell the bit where Stallone shoots up through the ice was re-edited and that Rooker's character originally killed the baddie there. He throws aside a shotgun he hasn't used up to the point right before he runs over.

Rooker puts in a lot of work in this movie, and i didn't know they originally shot it for Rooker mowing the guy down with his shotgun but it makes perfect sense now. I guess they didn't want to have Rooker have bagged as many bad guys as Stallone.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

Panzeh posted:

Rooker puts in a lot of work in this movie, and i didn't know they originally shot it for Rooker mowing the guy down with his shotgun but it makes perfect sense now. I guess they didn't want to have Rooker have bagged as many bad guys as Stallone.
Harlin talks about it on the BR; everyone who saw the original cut thought it felt anticlimactic to have Rooker appear from nowhere and pop Rex Linn from a distance, so they did a reshoot to have Stallone shoot him multiple times with his (now apparently full-auto) bolt gun.

Similarly, Stallone's mega-leap across a chasm after the bridge gets blown up (which appeared in the trailer), that was expected to be the iconic moment of the movie on paper, lost test audiences because it crossed the line into being superhuman, so they chopped it up and used the clips in the later scene where he jumps down the mountainside while being chased by Travers.

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Sep 8, 2022

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Payndz posted:

Picked up a Blu-Ray of Cliffhanger, which I hadn't seen in ages; a good bad movie. Had a :wtc: realisation early on that I can't believe had never occurred to me before: the bad guys' plan is to kill the loyal Treasury agents on the jet, then do a mid-air transfer with the money to John Lithgow's plane and fly away. People who need to be involved: Rex Linn, his pilot, Lithgow, his pilot and co-pilot, and maybe a guy with a big hook to catch the cable. But for some reason Lithgow has also brought along about half a dozen psychopathic mercenaries armed with machine guns, grenade launchers and a shitload of C4, who could only be of any use to him if the plane happened to crash in the Rocky Mountains and he needed to force some plucky rescue climbers to help find the lost money cases. But how likely is that, right?

Still, it's worth it for the done-for-real aerial stunt and the still gripping opening, as well as the scenery porn (shot in Italy rather than the real Rockies). Lithgow's gleefully cartoony villain is great fun too, with a collection of one-liners that sound like he'd come up with them ages ago and was waiting for any vaguely relevant excuse to use them.

YouTube has various action scenes from the NC-17 workprint, which were cut down to bring it to an R (it's still pretty bloody and brutal even so), but unfortunately they're absolutely terrible copy-of-a-copy VHS quality.
Just watched it for the first time due to this post. The opening scene was really great, up until all the really tight shots of the main actors who were clearly not on location.

It's too bad it's not a good movie - get rid of the henchmen and bad action, and you have a solid thriller. Michael Rooker gets put through the wringer and is constantly selfless, great role for him even though I felt his intensity didn't match Stallone's early on. It's weird because Stallone just seems to be part of a different movie the whole time.


The done for real aerial scene is incredible because the pilot and inside job guy could have just parachuted with the money down to a waiting vehicle. Or even a waiting plane!

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Bad action? In Cliffhanger?

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Bad action? In Cliffhanger?

I don't think there's a single scene with a regular gun in it that's decent. And the cave fight is terrible

The airplane, helicopter, and all the mountain climbing is all fantastic though. Too bad there's no way they would have gotten the production budget for the good stuff without having Stallone and all his excesses along as baggage

I do appreciate that Travers, as well as half the feds, have extreme "hey it's that guy with a mustache I recognize" energy

mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 8, 2022

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
Fun fact, Cliffhanger is based on an incident that occured in the 70s in Yosemite where a random Cessna loaded with hundreds of pounds of marijuana went down in a remote frozen lake so the only people that could get to it were all the dirtbag climbers living in the park and by the time the next climbing season started the parking lot was filled with high end sports cars that all the climbers had bought.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

B-Rock452 posted:

Fun fact, Cliffhanger is based on an incident that occured in the 70s in Yosemite where a random Cessna loaded with hundreds of pounds of marijuana went down in a remote frozen lake so the only people that could get to it were all the dirtbag climbers living in the park and by the time the next climbing season started the parking lot was filled with high end sports cars that all the climbers had bought.

I'm not gonna verify this because that absolutely rules. My only time in Yosemite, I was camping out at the climber tent area and some guy walked up and offered us a whole bunch of weed out of a paper bag, which we were happy to accept

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Cliffhanger is definitely more about the setting and the characters than the action. Like, yea that opening stunt is pretty wild and there are some other decent action scenes but I don't think the movie would be as highly regarded without Lithgow and Rooker. Stallone is Stallone but I don't think he could've carried that movie on his own without a memorable villain and the excellent performance(as always) by Rooker.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Yeah I don't care if that story is exaggerated at all, it's fully true in my brain now.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
It's probably a bit exaggerated, John Long (super famous climber with tons of first ascents in Yosemite who is credited with writing the premise of the movie) has a reputation for that but it has been verified by a bunch of climbers who were at Camp 4 at the time. Also oddly enough Stallone's climbing double did a ton of first ascents with John Long.

If you like bad climbing movies, a hidden gem is K2 with Michael Biehn. None of it makes sense at all but it rocks, way back in my climbing days we would watch K2 or Cliffhanger before heading out to do dumb poo poo in the mountains.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

B-Rock452 posted:

It's probably a bit exaggerated, John Long (super famous climber with tons of first ascents in Yosemite who is credited with writing the premise of the movie) has a reputation for that but it has been verified by a bunch of climbers who were at Camp 4 at the time. Also oddly enough Stallone's climbing double did a ton of first ascents with John Long.

If you like bad climbing movies, a hidden gem is K2 with Michael Biehn. None of it makes sense at all but it rocks, way back in my climbing days we would watch K2 or Cliffhanger before heading out to do dumb poo poo in the mountains.
I did wonder how the "Premise by" credit came about, because it's not a standard WGA thing.

Speaking of bad climbing movies, one of MY WIFE's favourite films is Vertical Limit, which I once watched with her; all I can remember about it is when Dr Bashir from DS9 got blown into red CGI paste by some overheated nitroglycerine. There's also The Eiger Sanction, based on a novel written as a mocking parody of ludicrous 60s/70s spy thrillers... which Clint Eastwood directed absolutely straight.

Edit: The Eiger Sanction is about Dr Jonathan Hemlock, an art professor who is also a professional assassin and carries out hits for the US government in exchange for rare paintings. His boss, Yurasis Dragon (say it out loud), is an albino who has to stay in dark rooms lit only by red light because going into the sun will kill him. Clint thought this was a deadly serious thriller.

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Sep 9, 2022

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
Vertical Limit and The Perfect Storm released the same year and they're both bloated FX films with really big, unexciting helicopter sequences.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Disposable Scud posted:

Vertical Limit and The Perfect Storm released the same year and they're both bloated FX films with really big, unexciting helicopter sequences.

Conversely, a while back I watched NIGHTMARE AT NOON (aka DEATH STREET USA), a low-budget but fun bio-zombie flick that suddenly has a super-impressive helicopter chase sequence near the end. Comes out of nowhere with some actually impressive flying and beautiful scenery. Worth looking up if you like a bit of fun/bad film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHSFy1LONM

NoneMoreNegative fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Sep 12, 2022

Martman
Nov 20, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 47 minutes!
I stumbled on the opening scene of Vertical Limit on TV when I was probably 14 or so. I had no idea what the movie was or what it was about, and heights can get me feeling pretty spooked anyway, so it hit me pretty hard honestly.

Then I just looked up that scene and it has one of the most unintentionally hilarious endings I've seen in a while: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0gx_D--iDw&t=205s The timing of the cut and the way he lands seriously make it look like he fell like 10, maybe 15 feet.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
Nothing about that scene makes sense if it makes you feel better. The dad was clipped into an anchor comprised of several bolts which is completely bombproof and could have easily taken the combined weight of all 5 climbers in a fall.

Also I am shocked that metolius didn't have a problem with their logo being seen on the cam (climbing gear) that failed since cams don't work that way. They tend to walk a bit if you aren't careful with placement but once force is applied to it it's never going to move if placed correctly and it's pretty common for them to be completely stuck after a big fall.

Famously black diamond sued Cliffhanger since their logo was prominent on the buckle of the harness that fails at the beginning and the logo had to be cgi'd out

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I feel like no movie about K2 can be as terrifying as the documentaries that are out there. The Summit comes to mind right away.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Payndz posted:

Edit: The Eiger Sanction is about Dr Jonathan Hemlock, an art professor who is also a professional assassin and carries out hits for the US government in exchange for rare paintings. His boss, Yurasis Dragon (say it out loud), is an albino who has to stay in dark rooms lit only by red light because going into the sun will kill him. Clint thought this was a deadly serious thriller.
You're a cis dragon?

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

B-Rock452 posted:

Nothing about that scene makes sense if it makes you feel better. The dad was clipped into an anchor comprised of several bolts which is completely bombproof and could have easily taken the combined weight of all 5 climbers in a fall.

Also I am shocked that metolius didn't have a problem with their logo being seen on the cam (climbing gear) that failed since cams don't work that way. They tend to walk a bit if you aren't careful with placement but once force is applied to it it's never going to move if placed correctly and it's pretty common for them to be completely stuck after a big fall.

Famously black diamond sued Cliffhanger since their logo was prominent on the buckle of the harness that fails at the beginning and the logo had to be cgi'd out

Cliffhanger was an early outlier in digital effects, especially in how the safety lines were removed and compositing between actors/doubles/mattes/locations. Didn't know about the logo though.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Remulak posted:

Cliffhanger was an early outlier in digital effects, especially in how the safety lines were removed and compositing between actors/doubles/mattes/locations. Didn't know about the logo though.

Is that how they filmed it? There's a few scenes that really looked like Stallone was climbing, but I'm 100% positive he couldn't have done any of it.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
There is this Korean movie Alienoid which is some kind of sci-fi comedy fantasy action flick and it's quite nuts. It reminded me of Wong Jing in a good way, it's absolutely impossible to predict what will happen next.
Like the opening scene, which seems pretty standard fantasy in 14th century Korea with a monster and a floating lady when suddenly a portal opens up, a big rear end SUV comes through, carrying Ultron and EVE from Wall-E who are aliens hunting other aliens who are locked up in human bodies

And from there it gets a bit crazier.

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

mastershakeman posted:

Is that how they filmed it? There's a few scenes that really looked like Stallone was climbing, but I'm 100% positive he couldn't have done any of it.
Stallone was actually up in the mountains for filming, but anything involving him climbing was done with doubles or studio sets mixed with front projection. The shot at the start where he seems to be dangling from an overhang used the helicopter to hide a wipe between a set and the real location.

Rooker looked to be up on that peak for real, though. I guess less famous = easier insurance.

Halloween Jack posted:

You're a cis dragon?
Your rear end is draggin'.

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