|
KitConstantine posted:Jones ranting. Wonder what the judge will think of this It didn't happen in court, and it technically didn't reference the court, so it shouldn't matter. As long as he doesn't act like that in court, no-one will mention it. HE WILL CONTINUE TO ACT LIKE THAT AND MAKE IT WORSE FOR HIMSELF, HE CANNOT SWITCH OFF ANYMORE
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:03
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 05:07 |
|
|
Does calling the judge a tyrant not reference the court?
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:06
|
|
|
Bellis actively wondering why Pattis can't bring up the Plaintiff's views on guns right now
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:08
|
|
|
OneMoreTime posted:Bellis actively wondering why Pattis can't bring up the Plaintiff's views on guns right now She's arguing the opposite side. That doesn't mean she agrees with it. From what I've read from lawyers Judges are often tougher on the side they tend to agree with
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:09
|
|
|
KitConstantine posted:She's arguing the opposite side. That doesn't mean she agrees with it. From what I've read from lawyers Judges are often tougher on the side they tend to agree with Interesting, I appreciate the clarification.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:10
|
|
|
OneMoreTime posted:Interesting, I appreciate the clarification. I can't say for sure which way she'll come down but it's for the benefit of the record that the arguments be completely explained
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:12
|
|
|
I get why she can't say it but the answer is "Because he will weaponise it. He'll dance around the words, but that's what's going to happen. I can't express that to the court in a way the court will understand, because the court **needs** to be ignorant of the parties in the trial, but he's going to weaponise this poo poo."
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:13
|
|
|
Well Pattis can mention guns I think the judge has made it clear he's on a pretty short leash, but we shall see how it goes
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:18
|
|
|
KitConstantine posted:Well Pattis can mention guns Given how Pattis has acted I can see this getting out of hand incredibly quickly, hopefully not though!
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:18
|
|
|
Oh cool, back to Paz.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:22
|
|
|
We're in the Paz final stretch.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:25
|
|
|
Paz is basically done at this point, in terms of how she is answering
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:26
|
|
|
OneMoreTime posted:Given how Pattis has acted I can see this getting out of hand incredibly quickly, hopefully not though! Given how ms. Paz just answered, I think Norm hosed himself by not giving all of the materials in discovery. The only lawyer she’s seen was him, so…
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:28
|
|
|
Faust IX posted:Given how ms. Paz just answered, I think Norm hosed himself by not giving all of the materials in discovery. The only lawyer she’s seen was him, so… That does seem to be where this line of questioning is going
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:29
|
|
|
Can Pattis not braid his hair? Like the dumbest sticking point I have but goddamn dude, this look ain’t it
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:30
|
|
|
teen witch posted:Can Pattis not braid his hair? Tangent: Here is something they do not like to say out loud: if you’re male and with long hair like that, no one is going to take you seriously. You either have to have an amazing reason why (chemo survivor never wanting their hair falling out again being my personal example), or have to understand you will ALWAYS be fighting a battle over your look when you should be judged by the merit of your abilities in law. Unfortunately Norm is just a bad example for all of us, and I swear to loving god someone said he believes in the Sovereign Citizen movement. I wish I could confirm, because that makes so much more sense.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:35
|
|
|
So uhhhh is it good when your opposing attorney shows that you knowingly led/allowed one of your witnesses to lie on the stand?
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:37
|
|
|
KitConstantine posted:So uhhhh is it good when your opposing attorney shows that you knowingly led/allowed one of your witnesses to lie on the stand? Well judging from Norm's face it's uh, not good!
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:38
|
|
|
KitConstantine posted:So uhhhh is it good when your opposing attorney shows that you knowingly led/allowed one of your witnesses to lie on the stand? I appreciated the camera doing the slowest pan and zoom over to Pattis the whole time that was being talked about.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:38
|
|
|
Faust IX posted:Tangent: Here is something they do not like to say out loud: if you’re male and with long hair like that, no one is going to take you seriously. You either have to have an amazing reason why (chemo survivor never wanting their hair falling out again being my personal example), or have to understand you will ALWAYS be fighting a battle over your look when you should be judged by the merit of your abilities in law. I don't know much about law at all 
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:38
|
|
|
KitConstantine posted:So uhhhh is it good when your opposing attorney shows that you knowingly led/allowed one of your witnesses to lie on the stand? The technical term you want to look up is suborning perjury.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:40
|
|
|
Faust IX posted:Tangent: Here is something they do not like to say out loud: if you’re male and with long hair like that, no one is going to take you seriously. You either have to have an amazing reason why (chemo survivor never wanting their hair falling out again being my personal example), or have to understand you will ALWAYS be fighting a battle over your look when you should be judged by the merit of your abilities in law. My partner has long blonde locks, though is a welder, but I get the weird hang ups about long hair. Norm just looks bad, like on an aesthetic level. It’s giving me sad man anal beads, it ain’t flattering
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:41
|
|
|
Just shop around for conditioner a bit it's not even hard you don't have to have short hair it just needs to not look like roadkill strapped to your head
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:41
|
|
|
surc posted:Just shop around for conditioner a bit it's not even hard you don't have to have short hair it just needs to not look like roadkill strapped to your head Thank you, this made me giggle also yes you'd think he makes enough to spend on a keratin treatment, I have curly hair and if you do the Brazilian blowout treatment but just don't do the straightening part it just deleted frizz from the curls
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:46
|
|
|
I feel like a corporate rep should know what's in the depositions but I guess I'm not Norm
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:49
|
|
|
Why would they break the streak?
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:50
|
|
|
That didn't feel like a productive line of questioning from Pattis but I guess what did he really have to go on?
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:50
|
|
|
Finally the cs part is over.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:51
|
|
|
I will admit, he probably could look more professional with a tight braid, but professional looks and professional conduct are two extremes for the curious case of Norm. Ab-Norm-al if you will. But man, Mattei managed to lay a very concise number of breadcrumbs to successfully piss Norm off. He just asked the witness whether or not the plaintiff seemed biased against the defense. This is going to be a long day. So much cat fighting is already brewing and it isn’t even 12.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:51
|
|
|
JESUS CLINT TURN IT DOWN!
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:52
|
|
|
That was short and seemed to boil down to, "You had so much time, so many documents, and no preexisting knowledge! What idiot would hire you to be a FSS corporate representative?"
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:52
|
|
|
KitConstantine posted:So uhhhh is it good when your opposing attorney shows that you knowingly led/allowed one of your witnesses to lie on the stand? *extremely half-life scientist voice* oh no
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:53
|
|
|
Well hey looks like we have some nerd from New York State to come save the day.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:53
|
|
|
JaneError posted:That was short and seemed to boil down to, "You had so much time, so many documents, and no preexisting knowledge! What idiot would hire you to be a FSS corporate representative?" It seemed like the consistent line of questioning from both parties was "Wow you knew poo poo all huh?" With the only difference being Plaintiffs arguing Jones withheld, and Defense arguing she was an idiot.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:54
|
|
|
Xiahou Dun posted:Well hey looks like we have some nerd from New York State to come save the day. This dude is a (post?)Korean War vet? Did…did I hear that right? Second Lieutenant to Captain. That’s kind of an incredible character witness, joining the FBI.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:57
|
|
|
Korean war vet would make him about 90.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:59
|
|
|
OneMoreTime posted:It seemed like the consistent line of questioning from both parties was "Wow you knew poo poo all huh?" With the only difference being Plaintiffs arguing Jones withheld, and Defense arguing she was an idiot. She was shown as the patsy she was set up to be. I think that was really obvious Also this guy looks like a computer nerd, it's yet another piece of perfect casting in this circus  or 
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:59
|
|
|
Who is he and what is he here for?
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 15:59
|
|
|
Oh drat, i REALLY misheard that. But at the very least, this is one hell of a witness to call to the stand, given the credentials.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 16:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 05:07 |
|
|
Mr. Merdle posted:Who is he and what is he here for? He's a counter-terrorism/terrorism expert for the FBI.
|
|
#
?
Sep 20, 2022 16:02
|
|