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Sometimes he just needs to fill 10 minutes on his show and he goes on a weird God trip because maybe he hadn't tapped into his religious listeners buying power enough that week. It's not especially consistent from day to day. None of it gels together. It's just stream of consciousness bullshit because he needs to fill 4+ hours a day.
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Like a lot of his crap, if you listen to enough of it you'll notice there are like two or three bullet point ideas that remain consistent but the other 99% surrounding it is just horseshit he's spinning up at the moment and may be completely different than what he said yesterday.
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Sep 23, 2022 06:43
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I suspect having a rage meltdown in front of a jury always works in your favor. Imagine this is how he behaves in public where any reasonable person would understand that their financial well-being is on the line so being on your best behavior is in your best interest. And then having a melty anyway. It must get pretty bad in private.
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Grand Fromage posted:Like a lot of his crap, if you listen to enough of it you'll notice there are like two or three bullet point ideas that remain consistent but the other 99% surrounding it is just horseshit he's spinning up at the moment and may be completely different than what he said yesterday. I think my favorite of one of these was "Glen Beck is the government."
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Sep 23, 2022 06:54
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Guys I just took 30 pills of brain force and VASOBOOST I'm gonna be OK right?
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Sep 23, 2022 07:06
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The satanism angle from Alex had me double check something. He seems like he would have been a K-12 student from about 1979-1992 or so. Pretty much all that part of his life seems like the D&D fearmongering, daycare cults, dangers of heavy metal music were likely huge in the conservative media space. In that specific window we have the kid from the Mazes and Monsters thing happening at very the start of it, and near the almost tail of of it we're looking at the early 90s Judas Priest trial over suicide through subliminal messages. I'm sort of stuck thinking about how back also in that very specific time the old Family Channel used to do semi-routine late-night 'media conspiracy'-type shows about such stuff that I totally missed the point of because I saw it as more 'interesting paranormal stuff' than the intended 'cautionary warnings.' I know that a LOT of people also fit into that specific window, but I do wonder how much exposure Jones had to a lot of such media and 'media about media' that inspired or influenced him on things outside the 'I read a lot' of books growing up. Hell, even rewatching some of the old Max Headroom episodes, I found myself thinking of Alex Jones, for some reason.
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Sep 23, 2022 07:07
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Guys I just took 30 pills of brain force and VASOBOOST I'm gonna be OK right? Good news, you're about to ascend to the astral plane. Bad news, you're about to ascend to the astral plane.
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Sep 23, 2022 07:09
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AJ reminds me of every relatively successful small business owner I've ever known. The rage meltdowns, hiring dumb people to do a bad job purposefully, the blatantly transparent money manipulation, and of course the unchecked narcissism. His religious bits remind me of it a lot actually - the business owners / AJ all had surprising success in a market they didn't understand, so they totemically repeated the same actions over and over, even if success was obviously not repeatable. AJ probably had one specific religious freeform bit where Nelson Mandingo posted:I suspect having a rage meltdown in front of a jury always works in your favor. Assuming he's like all the other narcissistic small business owners I've known, it probably drove him loving INSANE that he couldn't do (or say) whatever the gently caress he wanted. I doubt he sees this as a meltdown, and I'd be willing to bet that he thinks his statement was truthful, honest, and contrite.
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Sep 23, 2022 07:11
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hazed glam posted:Like, if anyone else (a poor or non-right wing lunatic) did this they'd be hosed from so many angles Plenty of poor, right wing lunatics are getting hosed constantly, just look at the January 6th people. Assholes, every one of them. But at the same time, most of them haven't been doing this poo poo for over a decade in order to sell boner pills to pay for their Adderall addiction. It's not your politics, it's your money that keeps you from getting hosed if you do obvious crimes.
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Sep 23, 2022 07:13
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JediTalentAgent posted:Hell, even rewatching some of the old Max Headroom episodes, I found myself thinking of Alex Jones, for some reason. Frewer's character is framed as the show's hero, but his entire schtick is framing the news as entertainment. And then his computer brain gives the vaudeville version of that same entertainment to nail home how absurd it is. I'm not saying the above two sentences describe everything in the show but I love that your comment made me even think about the connection.
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Sep 23, 2022 07:19
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Guys I just took 30 pills of brain force and VASOBOOST I'm gonna be OK right? Unironic answer: if what he’s selling is a nootropic like he claims it is, the simplest legal one would be one of the -racetams. You can get a decent potency of the stuff before you need medical clearance for something on the “I actually have acetylcholine and brain problems” prescription end of that spectrum. (Thank you ce gars and KicksYouInHalf and the original Marble Hornets series actively using it as a throwaway gag that ended up turning into a central plot element.) Common side effects of nootropics in that family of “brain drugs” are severe dehydration due to explosive diarrhea. I’d assume you’d have a significant choline deficiency afterward if you didn’t take the stuff at the same time, or didn’t poison yourself from taking waaaaay too much. The boost is literally just beet juice mixed with preservatives to make it sound like a legitimate product. Chances are you’d have no effect from it unless you’re allergic to beets. Alex Jones is going to be in a world of hurt no matter what, but the sale of non-FDA regulatory products is on the low end of his rap sheet. Fake edit: I went back to the footage: Jones says it costs $4 to make a single VASOBOOST, but they sell for $40, or $20 on sale. So that’s either 10 times the cost or 5 times. And this is relevant because he kept repeating that the average viewer was working class and could figure out basic math. Yeah, that’s going to go over well.
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Sep 23, 2022 11:39
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The attention economy has really hosed us as a species.
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Sep 23, 2022 11:46
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ashpanash posted:Plenty of poor, right wing lunatics are getting hosed constantly, just look at the January 6th people. Assholes, every one of them. But at the same time, most of them haven't been doing this poo poo for over a decade in order to sell boner pills to pay for their Adderall addiction. It's not your politics, it's your money that keeps you from getting hosed if you do obvious crimes. It was always the case but it's wild how transparent it's become, they don't even bother pretending.
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Sep 23, 2022 11:49
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Faust IX posted:Fake edit: I went back to the footage: Jones says it costs $4 to make a single VASOBOOST, but they sell for $40, or $20 on sale. So that’s either 10 times the cost or 5 times. And this is relevant because he kept repeating that the average viewer was working class and could figure out basic math. Didn't he also blurt that out after trying to
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Sep 23, 2022 12:08
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What are the rest of the days pencilled in as? Duelling forensic accountants?
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Sep 23, 2022 12:15
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What time is court starting today?
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Sep 23, 2022 12:22
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Randalor posted:Didn't he also blurt that out after trying to Deptfordx posted:What time is court starting today? oh a detail i forgot to mention on jones' rant on the infowars' cryptocurrency donations: ~$100k of the wallet went directly to some media employees at infowars as payment. like hell am i going onto his site and finding the wallet addresses and matching all that up though, that's the courts' problem
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Sep 23, 2022 12:28
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10 AM EST 4 PM CET Lesser time zones can figure it out themselves
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MrMojok posted:I’ve been catching up on all these clips and just got to “Just like all the Iraqis all you liberals killed” I wonder if they're getting confused with 'neoliberal'. Because to be fair there is a certain strain of not-neoliberal rightwinger, then and now, which is 'the rest of the world is none of our business' and doesn't want to intervene anywhere for any reason. (Also to be fair, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and with the WMDs lie, you got a lot more support from liberals for that than you would now)
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Guys I just took 30 pills of brain force and VASOBOOST I'm gonna be OK right? I will notify your next of kin
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feedmegin posted:I wonder if they're getting confused with 'neoliberal'. Because to be fair there is a certain strain of not-neoliberal rightwinger, then and now, which is 'the rest of the world is none of our business' and doesn't want to intervene anywhere for any reason. (Also to be fair, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and with the WMDs lie, you got a lot more support from liberals for that than you would now) When AJ says liberal, he means democratic party member.
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Sep 23, 2022 12:51
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Guys I just took 30 pills of brain force and VASOBOOST I'm gonna be OK right? Better counteract it with some Homeopathy medicine.
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hazed glam posted:i haven't really been following this and only have a cursory understanding of all the things that have happened up till this point, but i find it funny that this guy could say all the poo poo that he has, encourage his rabid idiots to go do criminal poo poo to the parents, lie under oath, admit to committing fraud under oath, and act in contempt of court to a hilarious degree, and despite all of that he is still free and has a reasonable chance of getting away with it all. Like, if anyone else (a poor or non-right wing lunatic) did this they'd be hosed from so many angles This generosity is applied to a everyone with power or wealth in america. Only the poor have to follow the rules
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Alex had a very hard time not talking over his lawyers' objections yesterday. I have to imagine he's going to have an equally rough time not yalki g over Mattei's suggestions Which I'm sure will end well.
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JediTalentAgent posted:The satanism angle from Alex had me double check something. I grew up in Austin, friends watched his public access cable show, I listened to his radio show a few times. It was amusing to prank call him back when he'd take live callers on the air. There was a lot of juicy local conspiracy poo poo happening when he was an impressionable young adult. It was also the dawn of the internet, X-Files was big. We were *all* really into government conspiracies for a while there. 91 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Hill_satanic_ritual_abuse_trial - literal satanic daycare witchunt 91 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Austin_yogurt_shop_killings 93 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege Slyphic fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Jones still defends the McMartin Preschool Trial, which is a wild-rear end position to take in 2022
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:that was in regards to what was said in the tx case and jones is correcting the record there in that he was claiming it was ~30% in his depo then Either way, most people would, y'know, not brag about how little a product costs to make and how much they sell it for when you're also trying to convince people that your company doesn't make that much money, especially after you tried to say that there was only a slim 30% markup.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I suspect having a rage meltdown in front of a jury always works in your favor. He's just a sheltered child. Plenty of people try to challenge him around Austin, especially back when he would be around town more. He would respond by shouting then down just like he does the callers that try to debate him. He got his rear end kicked once at cable access in the 90's for this behavior and only seemed to learn that he needs people around to protect him, not change anything about himself. Dude is fundamentally incapable of self reflection. He grew up on John Birch books and televangelists. He is the exact person what those two worlds would lead to without any friction along the way to slow down your descent into madness and narcissism.
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Randalor posted:Either way, most people would, y'know, not brag about how little a product costs to make and how much they sell it for when you're also trying to convince people that your company doesn't make that much money, especially after you tried to say that there was only a slim 30% markup. I would argue it makes sense for jones for the same reason it works for PBS. The people buying his stuff want to fund what he's doing and if they get some colloidal silver out of it, then hey nice bonus. He's effectively running a cult. The people in his world don't care that the bitcoin went through his bank account, they don't care that he owns the company selling the products to infowars, and they probably think it's smart of him to have so many fake companies and money hidden offshore or wherever.
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feedmegin posted:I wonder if they're getting confused with 'neoliberal'. Because to be fair there is a certain strain of not-neoliberal rightwinger, then and now, which is 'the rest of the world is none of our business' and doesn't want to intervene anywhere for any reason. (Also to be fair, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and with the WMDs lie, you got a lot more support from liberals for that than you would now) I don’t think it’s that smart or complicated. He’s trying to stop himself from calling the people he sees as his enemies satanic pedophiles, so he’s blindly reaching for some other bad thing to say about them.
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LCN stream is up early with jones already saying it's a show trial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDXUJB0QL8 court in 45m
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feedmegin posted:I wonder if they're getting confused with 'neoliberal'. Because to be fair there is a certain strain of not-neoliberal rightwinger, then and now, which is 'the rest of the world is none of our business' and doesn't want to intervene anywhere for any reason. (Also to be fair, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and with the WMDs lie, you got a lot more support from liberals for that than you would now) Do not give Alex any benefit of doubt on that, because he literally believes that George W. Bush was a secret liberal who was elected in order to trick conservatives into following the globalist agenda to repeal the Second Amendment (except on days where he wanted to whine about gay people instead and would inexplicably give Bush credit despite being a traitor) and only became "anti-war" years after 9/11 when stories of the Bush Administrations many lies were already coming out and he figured that he could use the factual "Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq" as a gateway talking point for people to accept "9/11 was a false flag attack by the globalists." It cannot be overstated that he has always been acting in bad faith ever since he rose to the national spotlight, and has the mental capacity of a literal child when it comes to actually synthesizing information. If you offered a million dollars to him if he could define the differences between a liberal and a neoliberal, he wouldn't be able to do it because those words don't actually mean anything to him. They are purely pejoratives for people that he thinks are demon-worshipping vampires, where "liberal" means Democrat and "neoliberal" means a Democrat that is pretending to be a conservative.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:LCN stream is up early with jones already saying it's a show trial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDXUJB0QL8 Well, in as much as he's providing the show... Sure.
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I'm just catching up here, how much money has Alex Jones already lost in the trial and how much more does he stand to lose ?
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And court is now in session. EDIT: looks like Pattis will not be recalling Jones?
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Hahaha. No cross examination of Alex
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smoobles posted:I'm just catching up here, how much money has Alex Jones already lost in the trial and how much more does he stand to lose ? I can't answer the former but I can tell you that if he shits the bed like yesterday, because the judge is the one who chooses how much money one has to pay out he's gonna lose quite a bit.
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