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KitConstantine posted:That should be interesting. He was pretty unhinged at the presser Court is back on Tuesday, and I think she will explain then but who knows
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So did Jones say something directly to a juror, or just like shout into the void that the jury should do their own research?
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Sep 23, 2022 18:01
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Surely a gagging order would be an immediate action?
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goatface posted:Surely a gagging order would be an immediate action? Might be fun to let it fester over the weekend
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Eeyo posted:So did Jones say something directly to a juror, or just like shout into the void that the jury should do their own research? he was giving a press conference on the courthouse steps while the jurors were exiting the rear. jurors say they didn't hear him
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Trillhouse posted:he was giving a press conference on the courthouse steps while the jurors were exiting the rear. jurors say they didn't hear him He also cast aspersions on the lead plaintiffs' attorney, the attorney's firm, and the attorney's father, said the judge was controlled by the aforementioned, and claimed that Norm told him that Norm would have been arrested if he had behaved similarly yesterday
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Sep 23, 2022 18:14
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Let's all be extremely realistic here: Mattei and the plaintiffs knew that, well, he would do just this sort of thing. Except I thought it would be last night on his show, instead of this morning in front of the courthouse. With the crowd size, we do not know whether or not know if the jury has successfully been tainted. Let's go with the obvious one: of loving course they have. Even Norm admits he KNEW his client would pull this stunt after the first recess with the jury being let out. "We presume that a properly instructed jury follows the law" is a bullshit thing to say, and Norm should shut the gently caress up. That Zero Policy thing? Jones just threw his lawyers under the bus. Again. Except this time, it's in a way that should DEFINITELY hold them in contempt of court, and just fled the state.
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Sep 23, 2022 18:17
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KitConstantine posted:And remember the context - this is in Connecticut, about 20 miles from where the shooting happened. The parents and relatives of victims testified yesterday in heartwrenching fashion 20 minutes easy if I-84 is clear.
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we'll get the missing footage in a bit: https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1573358537669070849 https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1573364723038445568 i was wondering why people were calling this a 2 minute segment when we definitely watched more than that before the feed cut e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOmt_-OWgHk Wiggly Wayne DDS fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Looks like they put up the missing 15mins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOmt_-OWgHk
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Trillhouse posted:he was giving a press conference on the courthouse steps while the jurors were exiting the rear. jurors say they didn't hear him "Your honor, 'attempted jury tampering'? Really? Do they give out Nobel prizes for attempted chemistry?"
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I just had to show this off here because man, Norm is horrible at hiding emotion, just like his client. https://twitter.com/SpenglerCreator/status/1573372775556911105 Who'd have thought he'd be checking twitter all morning instead of bothering, you know, stopping his client from trying to nullify the jury (through tampering via press conference). And yes, he used the words "I do believe in jury nullification" at the end of the last 15 minutes of the stream that was glitched and finally uploaded. The judge was practically begging him not to make him her very first disciplinary act against a lawyer in 20 years as a judge. And the plaintiffs should have gone harder on that point.
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OneMoreTime posted:https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/23/us/alex-jones-sandy-hook?auth=login-google I'm surprised the judge didn't then ask "so this means his attempt at jury tampering is justified in your opinion?"
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Scaramouche posted:I'm surprised the judge didn't then ask "so this means his attempt at jury tampering is justified in your opinion?" does it speak well to pattis' conduct that his client was unaware or unable to comprehend this wasn't a question he should answer? well we'll find out tuesday
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Generic American posted:They are purely pejoratives for people that he thinks are demon-worshipping vampires, where "liberal" means Democrat and "neoliberal" means a Democrat that is pretending to be a conservative. It bears repeating too that when he or any conspiracist says globalists they have always and still do mean The Jews. His brand of conspiracy has deep antisemitic and fascist roots, be circumspect dismissing it as comedic dipshit antics
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the yeti posted:It bears repeating too that when he or any conspiracist says globalists they have always and still do mean The Jews. And even if he personally didn't mean "Jews" when he says "Globalists", those conspiracy theories are inherently poisoned for that reason and should be reexamined under that lens. But non-explicit racism isn't a deal-breaker for most racists like Alex, so full steam ahead. Which doesn't dissuade actual racists for thinking you mean Jews when you say it.
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mojo1701a posted:And even if he personally didn't mean "Jews" when he says "Globalists", those conspiracy theories are inherently poisoned for that reason and should be reexamined under that lens. There was also a Knowledge Fight episode where the Dollops guys co-hosted, and Jones described a confrontation with some globalists at a restaurant and Gareth asked how he knew they were globalists, and I was just thinking "Yes how indeed." Because they were Jewish Kung Food fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Sep 23, 2022 |
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Jones is part of the Christian Identity movement which asserts that most of the people currently calling themselves Jews aren't real Jews, and that the real Lost Tribes of Israel ended up in England and the United States which is why white Americans are God's real Chosen People. Therefore he can insist that "Globalist" is not a codeword for Jews (because the people he's referring to aren't really Jewish). Obviously he's not consistent about this ideology because he isn't consistent about anything. But it's there and it's pretty easy to see it as an undercurrent to everything he says once you know about it.
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Everett False posted:Jones is part of the Christian Identity movement which asserts that most of the people currently calling themselves Jews aren't real Jews, and that the real Lost Tribes of Israel ended up in England and the United States which is why white Americans are God's real Chosen People. Therefore he can insist that "Globalist" is not a codeword for Jews (because the people he's referring to aren't really Jewish). There's regular ol' anti-Semitism, too, that never goes away
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To be completely fair to Jones, everything a guest on his show starts going down the actual non-pretend antisemitism route, it does get awkward between them. One of the few times he will just go quiet for a bit. Non-pretend antisemitism just doesn't come easy to him, for whatever reason. Like he is just not that well-practiced at it. It doesn't come smoothly like his anti-trans or anti-LGBT bigotry does. This does not extend to InfoWars as a workplace, though. One employee, Rob Jacobson, quit over constant antisemitic remarks directed at him by other staff. InfoWars has a weird and complicated relationship with antisemitism. I suspect it was a result of their radio contracts that antisemitism was a risky proposition while other bigotries were not, though that's just a guess on my part.
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Morroque posted:To be completely fair to Jones, everything a guest on his show starts going down the actual non-pretend antisemitism route, it does get awkward between them. One of the few times he will just go quiet for a bit. Non-pretend antisemitism just doesn't come easy to him, for whatever reason. Like he is just not that well-practiced at it. It doesn't come smoothly like his anti-trans or anti-LGBT bigotry does. I mean he had Richard Spence on his show. He of all people should have been a known quantity. I totally believe naked antisemitism gives him pause, but only because he is less practiced in fig leafing overt sieg hiel style antisemitism when he is used to the more subvert globalist/elites style. ie why are you super texting what I am trying to subtext.
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Morroque posted:To be completely fair to Jones
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Can someone explain to me why a poorly-shaved red-faced drug-addled gorilla can just get away with this poo poo?
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It turns out a Rich person who feels like they can ignore Societys rules written and unwritten can get away with a lot for a long time. Don't try this if you're poor.
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Plan R posted:Can someone explain to me why a poorly-shaved red-faced drug-addled gorilla can just get away with this poo poo?
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How have none of these loons mentioned channel 4's Utopia like it's a documentary for their bullshit?
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Upsidads posted:How have none of these loons mentioned channel 4's Utopia like it's a documentary for their bullshit? (it's too obvious, you see, there's no code to break, nothing to feel special about "noticing") There's probably no one conspiracy theorist figureheads hate more than people that "scoop" them stringless fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Sep 24, 2022 |
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Plan R posted:Can someone explain to me why a poorly-shaved red-faced drug-addled gorilla can just get away with this poo poo? A lot of people here find that persona an aspirational figure, turns out. Both for the immunity to consequences and the ideology.
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Alex usually goes after people who are too rich/powerful to waste their time fighting back against Alex for saying some crazy poo poo. Easier for them to just ignore it. When they do actually persue it like with the Chobani situation they almost always instantly settle for an apology. Alex will bury the apology in a long broadcast on Sunday when fewer people listen and then immediately start acting like he won and they were begging him to settle and lies lies lies.
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That the judge hasn't held him in contempt 20 times yet is insane. He posted a picture of the judge with lasers eyes and the words TYRANT. There's judges out there that would be turbo mad about that.
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LifeSunDeath posted:That the judge hasn't held him in contempt 20 times yet is insane. He posted a picture of the judge with lasers eyes and the words TYRANT. There's judges out there that would be turbo mad about that. I think shes not going after him for that as that was a pissbaby like Jones wants. I would bet she goes full heavy as poo poo on him in the closing remarks, where it matters most.
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Day 1: ABSOLUTELY ZERO TOLERANCE FOR SHENANIGANS IN MY COURT. Day 6: Attorney Pattis, this is now the 4th time I have asked Mr Jones to cease calling for his listeners to assassinate the plaintiffs in the street. Will you give him another juice box and ask him politely to calm down? Another 2 or 3 normal warnings and I will have to issue a stern warning.
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Maybe that's exactly what's happening. The judge knows that the defense is so incompetent that they literally can't stop their client from incriminating himself over and over. Perhaps it's literally a case of "hey, here's the rope, enjoy hanging yourself with it" in the sense that every outburst, every comment, every stunt Jones pulls on the stand and while still under oath...well. It would be an amazing Highlight Reel for closing arguments. Like, just playing the "best hits" of the trial Jones' personally acted in. At least that's the kind of clever way to really prove the point: with his own words on the stand.
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