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Alexander Hamilton posted:Keanu is not a good actor but he’s very good at picking projects so he usually ends up the worst part of every movie he’s in. That’s not a bad place to be. Another actor for that is Richard Gere. He's almost always the worst actor in a good project and the best actor in a bad one. Unlike Reeves, though, his quality of performance actually changes in reverse proportion to the quality of the movie. In big movies he sleepwalks half the time, but when he has to carry the movie he gives it his all.
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I’ve always liked Keanu Reeves in movies. I don’t care that he was dumb in the Dracula movie. He was good in Speed and all the Matrix movies, and John Wick, and Constantine. Hes got natural charisma that over shadows his delivery or whatever. Like Arnold
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Jedit posted:Another actor for that is Richard Gere. He's almost always the worst actor in a good project and the best actor in a bad one. Unlike Reeves, though, his quality of performance actually changes in reverse proportion to the quality of the movie. In big movies he sleepwalks half the time, but when he has to carry the movie he gives it his all. Chicago is a bit of an exception because the movie rules and he learnt to tap-dance for it.
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Sep 27, 2022 10:02
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CelticPredator posted:I’ve always liked Keanu Reeves in movies. I don’t care that he was dumb in the Dracula movie. He was good in Speed and all the Matrix movies, and John Wick, and Constantine. Hes got natural charisma that over shadows his delivery or whatever. Like Arnold He's been compared to Arnold Schwarzenegger before, and to a degree Nicholas Cage; all actors who are well known for being charismatic and kind of parodies of themselves but they're just prolific enough, professional enough (despite Cage's personal life issues and occasional on-set shenanigans, he seems to keep that off the set and stays 'quirky' rather than 'troublesome') and specialise in one particular role well enough that they work, despite the idea that they shouldn't be able to be taken seriously. Helps that Arnold basically had an entire genre perfectly suited for him (or vice versa?) and is quite happy to play a parody of himself because the kiddies love it. Zack Snyder is basically a director version, despite all the insane poo poo people say about him and his movies pretty much everyone who's worked with him has basically said they'd take a bullet for the guy.
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Sep 27, 2022 10:25
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I read Dracula again recently and let me tell you, 'beautiful idiot' is exactly who Jonathan Harker is. It's perfect casting.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Zack Snyder is basically a director version, despite all the insane poo poo people say about him and his movies pretty much everyone who's worked with him has basically said they'd take a bullet for the guy. I remember an anecdote at someone from a CGI FX firm that was like "normally when we're working on these shots we don't actually have any idea where they are in the film or what they mean, we just get told to do poo poo and we do it. Snyder came for a whole day, answered all our questions, just worked with us like any other part of the team and explained everything we were doing in context and it made things so much easier." I can imagine a lot of the big directors focusing on the craft of editing and the actual shoots and just running the CGI stuff through intermediaries, and it sounds miserable.
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Sep 27, 2022 11:53
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Ghost Leviathan posted:He's been compared to Arnold Schwarzenegger before, and to a degree Nicholas Cage; all actors who are well known for being charismatic and kind of parodies of themselves but they're just prolific enough, professional enough (despite Cage's personal life issues and occasional on-set shenanigans, he seems to keep that off the set and stays 'quirky' rather than 'troublesome') and specialise in one particular role well enough that they work, despite the idea that they shouldn't be able to be taken seriously. Helps that Arnold basically had an entire genre perfectly suited for him (or vice versa?) and is quite happy to play a parody of himself because the kiddies love it. Perhaps not a coincidence that all three of these actors have, at one point or another, played direct parodies of themselves or their roles; Keanu in Always Be My Maybe, Schwarzenegger in Last Action Hero, Nic Cage just recently in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. Which makes sense; anyone who gets pitched 'this character is a parody of your own roles' and takes it up is both A: clearly a person that's really good-natured and has a good sense of humor, and B: known as such a good-natured person that someone'll actually try pitching them that and feel like they're okay in doing so. Come to think of it, that holds through with other actors I can think of who've taken up parodies of their own roles, too. I've never heard a single bad thing said about Andre Braugher.
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Sep 27, 2022 11:55
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I'm kind of sad that Last Action Hero flopped. Because he had interesting string of films in the early 1990's: Terminator 2, Total Recall and LAH. Maybe his career could have taken new direction after LAH if it would have been more succesful. Instead his action films returned to form after that.
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mind the walrus posted:This exact pipeline which plays out every single time it comes up For the record, I'd like to point out that I have been a known Keanu appreciator since '97 and consistent in my love for the film Constantine and Keanu in it. Please don't quote me to further your vendetta against cool mountain breezes Also for the record, the funniest part of Always Be My Maybe is when Randall Park's dad asks him what he's doing, and he answers, "Smoking weed and dancing in front of the mirror. Wanna join me?" And then the dad does, in fact, join him
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Sep 27, 2022 13:58
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What the gently caress are you talking about? 
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Fish of hemp posted:I'm kind of sad that Last Action Hero flopped. Because he had interesting string of films in the early 1990's: Terminator 2, Total Recall and LAH. Maybe his career could have taken new direction after LAH if it would have been more succesful. Instead his action films returned to form after that. This True Lies erasure will not be tolerated
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Sep 27, 2022 13:59
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That's more of a "Jamie Lee Curtis absolutely steals the entire show" movie, rather than an Arnie movie.
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Sep 27, 2022 14:02
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:This
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Phy posted:There were a buttload of exorcism movies starting in the 00s, iirc "Of Emily Rose" was one of the less crappy ones rodbeard posted:That one was the one that was a "Christianity is under attack" legal drama with a trailer cut to make it look like a horror movie to trick people into seeing it. I think you're thinking of a different movie. Probably thinking of "The Taking of Deborah Logan". Similar enough title to get mixed up, but this one was good.
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Sep 27, 2022 14:24
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The Last Exorcism is also incredible. Heard the sequel was crap though.
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Jedit posted:Another actor for that is Richard Gere. He's almost always the worst actor in a good project and the best actor in a bad one. Unlike Reeves, though, his quality of performance actually changes in reverse proportion to the quality of the movie. In big movies he sleepwalks half the time, but when he has to carry the movie he gives it his all. You can see this happen scene by scene in The Jackal. If he's with Bruce Willis or Sidney Poitier, he's cringe inducing but he competently suits the scene when he's interacting with some of the more B-listers like the Russian agent lady or the lesser FBI agents and stuff.
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mind the walrus posted:Where the crowd mutates very quickly from "go gently caress yourself everyone knows he sucked in Constantine and has limited range" to "oh he's a wonderful guy though" to "yeah and he's a great actor too!" right into "Yeah and he was great in Constantine!" This was very strange because your initial point was that people get angry when you mention Keanu Reeve's limits and these posts you've quoted are all saying he's not a wonderful actor but can get the job done
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Sep 27, 2022 15:22
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So what I'm reading here is that Keanu is a real world example of that anime trope about how hard work and determination can put you on an even playing field with prodigious talent.
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Sep 27, 2022 15:37
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One person said Keanu is good in Constantine, zero people yelled at you (or anyone) for daring to say that he was bad in Constantine. And this is from the posts that "prove your point". 
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Sep 27, 2022 16:59
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Keanu is fine (not great but fine) as long as he doesn't try to do an accent like in Dracula or the time he put on a hell of a lot of bronzer and played a young Buddha in Little Buddha https://youtu.be/2QT4mFNVyzc
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the_steve posted:So what I'm reading here is that Keanu is a real world example of that anime trope about how hard work and determination can put you on an even playing field with prodigious talent. Hard work might be going a bit far. He was notoriously forced to hire an assistant that would wake him up and drag him out of bed during conditioning and choreography for The Matrix when the studio threatened to drop him for constantly being late. He's easy going, honest and polite person. That alone let him swing above his weight class in Hollywood.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Chumbawamba actually aged really well, insofar as the world decayed badly enough that I now understand and appreciate what they were singing about : Chumbawumba are really cool. Like their brief time in the mainstream isn't something they're bitter about not lasting longer, and they don't pretend that they tricked the label into signing them or whatever, it's just another part of their long time in music. Hell their rationale for signing with a major label was "no matter who we sign with they're gonna exploit us, so let's get exploited in a way we can pay our rent and buy food."
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My favourite Keanu is My Own Private Idaho. I should rewatch that and see how it holds up.
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hawowanlawow posted:I was gonna make a Fallen joke, but apparently Elias Koteas and Christopher Meloni are two different people. Holy gently caress. Bit of a late reply, but Knowing scratches this itch for me as well.
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Cool Kids Club Soda posted:This True Lies erasure will not be tolerated This Kindergarten Cop and Junior erasure will not be tolerated.
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the_steve posted:So what I'm reading here is that Keanu is a real world example of that anime trope about how hard work and determination can put you on an even playing field with prodigious talent. Showing up, not being a fuckup, and never having the project fail because of you and your drama are the most valuable talents of all because they apply to every industry. If Keanu decided tomorrow to go into Hedge Funds instead, I’m sure his performance review would be some variation of “not a math genius, but he’s great with clients, all his co-workers at every level like him, he has a good feel for the market, and he manages risk well. Hire him.”
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deoju posted:This Kindergarten Cop and Junior erasure will not be tolerated. However, this Twins erasure is just fine.
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Hmm a 100 new posts in the thread, let's see wh...of course... Keanu chat 
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Reeves much to be desired
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All you people talking about Keanu and nobody mentions Parenthood? FOR SHAME! He basically plays a young Keanu as Todd and it’s wonderful.
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Acute Grill posted:Chumbawumba are really cool. Like their brief time in the mainstream isn't something they're bitter about not lasting longer, and they don't pretend that they tricked the label into signing them or whatever, it's just another part of their long time in music. Hell their rationale for signing with a major label was "no matter who we sign with they're gonna exploit us, so let's get exploited in a way we can pay our rent and buy food." They're outspoken anarchists and used the proceeds from their albums to support a ton of antiracist and anticapitalist organizations. I've never really liked their style of music but they are definitely cool people who weren't shy about their beliefs and were willing to put their money where their mouth is.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:They're outspoken anarchists and used the proceeds from their albums to support a ton of antiracist and anticapitalist organizations. I've never really liked their style of music but they are definitely cool people who weren't shy about their beliefs and were willing to put their money where their mouth is. Anyone who sings jaunty tunes about murdering the royal family is alright by me
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I'm just sad that this album isn't available on Apple Music or YouTube Music Chumbawamba - English Rebel Songs 1381–1984 I mean I bought it, but it's too much effort to upload my own copy.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Hard work might be going a bit far. He was notoriously forced to hire an assistant that would wake him up and drag him out of bed during conditioning and choreography for The Matrix when the studio threatened to drop him for constantly being late. I also feel very weird about the para-social relationships I develop, especially with Keanu, but gently caress if hearing "Keanu needed a door knocker" isn't endearing. He knew he needed to get a job done and wasn't hitting the mark, so he addressed the issue. Brendan Fraiser's recent resurgence is another one that feels a little weird. I also really liked him in the Mummy movies when I was in middle and high school, but the fawning I see for him over on reddit is a little nauseating. Many comments come off as almost infantilizing a grown adult with a successful career that took a slump after the "classic" action movie surge died down. Let's be honest, "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emporer" was not the high bar of cinema in the 2010s.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I also feel very weird about the para-social relationships I develop, especially with Keanu, but gently caress if hearing "Keanu needed a door knocker" isn't endearing. He knew he needed to get a job done and wasn't hitting the mark, so he addressed the issue. He got sexually assaulted by a movie exec and blacklisted,as well as severe health problems/divorce. So yeah people want him to suceed.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I also feel very weird about the para-social relationships I develop, especially with Keanu, but gently caress if hearing "Keanu needed a door knocker" isn't endearing. He knew he needed to get a job done and wasn't hitting the mark, so he addressed the issue. It's also cause his career died because he was sexual assaulted by a big exec and he tried to speak out about it
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Brawnfire posted:Anyone who sings jaunty tunes about murdering the royal family is alright by me 
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bunnyofdoom posted:It's also cause his career died because he was sexual assaulted by a big exec and he tried to speak out about it Brazilianpeanutwar posted:He got sexually assaulted by a movie exec and blacklisted,as well as severe health problems/divorce. I did not know about this. Consider this a retraction of the criticism of Brendan Fraiser cheerleading.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I did not know about this. Consider this a retraction of the criticism of Brendan Fraiser cheerleading. TBF it does seem a little weird without that context
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I loved The Thick of It but it feels far too optimistic a picture of British politics. Especially since actors are better at coming across as interesting or sympathetic compared to actual politicians.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I loved The Thick of It but it feels far too optimistic a picture of British politics. Especially since actors are better at coming across as interesting or sympathetic compared to actual politicians. Iannucci himself has essentially stated "Yeah, this entire show has become obsolete post 2016": https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jun/12/thick-of-it-return-ruled-out-by-armando-iannucci
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